From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com Tue Jun 3 07:44:12 2008 From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:44:12 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Removing software Message-ID: Request: Add a select all button to the remove software section in the individual record section of inventory. We like to keep records of retired hdwe but have no need to keep associated software as it is always redeployed, or upgraded when new hardware is rolled out. John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080603/d450d3f8/attachment.htm From rcorbin at mac.com Wed Jun 4 08:18:05 2008 From: rcorbin at mac.com (Roger Corbin) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:18:05 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2872E5A1-6BC5-4408-8046-30BB42F58E60@mac.com> This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. Roger Corbin Richmond School District #38 From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com Thu Jun 5 06:36:29 2008 From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US)) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:36:29 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? References: <2872E5A1-6BC5-4408-8046-30BB42F58E60@mac.com> Message-ID: There was a significant bug in AFP under 10.5.2. That was supposedly fixed in 10.5.3, but I have yet to test it. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Roger Corbin Sent: Wed 6/4/2008 11:18 AM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. Roger Corbin Richmond School District #38 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. From Dustin.Dorey at district196.org Thu Jun 5 06:46:51 2008 From: Dustin.Dorey at district196.org (Dorey, Dustin) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:46:51 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? In-Reply-To: References: <2872E5A1-6BC5-4408-8046-30BB42F58E60@mac.com> Message-ID: We have our JSS, Netboot, and packages all hosted on a 10.5.2 server, I have obviously not yet run the update on it, I did on my test server and haven't noticed anything but it's really not being used heavily. We have been having some issues with tomcat and permissions, but I'm working with Casper support on that now to see what the cause is, I have to wait for it to act up again here and grab the info. Also we have not set up link aggregation yet on it, but should be doing that tomorrow. In short our experience with 10.5 server has not been bad however we never even had casper on 10.4 since we purchased it right as 10.5 came out and we kind of just went for it! Dustin Dorey Technology Support Cluster Specialist ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan 14445 Diamond Path West Rosemount, MN 55068 (952) 423-7971 dustin.dorey at district196.org -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:36 AM To: Roger Corbin; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? There was a significant bug in AFP under 10.5.2. That was supposedly fixed in 10.5.3, but I have yet to test it. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Roger Corbin Sent: Wed 6/4/2008 11:18 AM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. Roger Corbin Richmond School District #38 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com Thu Jun 5 06:57:30 2008 From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US)) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:57:30 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? References: <2872E5A1-6BC5-4408-8046-30BB42F58E60@mac.com> Message-ID: To clarify, the AFP issue in 10.5.2 is a known Mac OS X Server issue and has nothing to do with the JSS. My JSS is running on 10.5.2, and I have experienced very few issues, and JAMF support was able to work through them in minutes. On test systems, I have experienced the 10.5.2 AFP issue where the AFP service will "wig out" for lack of a better term, and you need to restart the service before anyone can connect. -----Original Message----- From: Dorey, Dustin [mailto:Dustin.Dorey at district196.org] Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 9:46 AM To: Leacy, Miles (US); casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: RE: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? We have our JSS, Netboot, and packages all hosted on a 10.5.2 server, I have obviously not yet run the update on it, I did on my test server and haven't noticed anything but it's really not being used heavily. We have been having some issues with tomcat and permissions, but I'm working with Casper support on that now to see what the cause is, I have to wait for it to act up again here and grab the info. Also we have not set up link aggregation yet on it, but should be doing that tomorrow. In short our experience with 10.5 server has not been bad however we never even had casper on 10.4 since we purchased it right as 10.5 came out and we kind of just went for it! Dustin Dorey Technology Support Cluster Specialist ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan 14445 Diamond Path West Rosemount, MN 55068 (952) 423-7971 dustin.dorey at district196.org -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:36 AM To: Roger Corbin; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? There was a significant bug in AFP under 10.5.2. That was supposedly fixed in 10.5.3, but I have yet to test it. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Roger Corbin Sent: Wed 6/4/2008 11:18 AM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. Roger Corbin Richmond School District #38 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. 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If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org Thu Jun 5 07:27:33 2008 From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:27:33 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Our JSS is on 10.5.2 now, and we've been doing fine, except for the Tomcat issues that Dusty refered to. Main CapseShare is on a different server, so there is little afp traffic on this box. -Nathaniel "Leacy, Miles (US)" Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/05/2008 08:57 AM To "Dorey, Dustin" , cc Subject Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? To clarify, the AFP issue in 10.5.2 is a known Mac OS X Server issue and has nothing to do with the JSS. My JSS is running on 10.5.2, and I have experienced very few issues, and JAMF support was able to work through them in minutes. On test systems, I have experienced the 10.5.2 AFP issue where the AFP service will "wig out" for lack of a better term, and you need to restart the service before anyone can connect. -----Original Message----- From: Dorey, Dustin [mailto:Dustin.Dorey at district196.org] Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 9:46 AM To: Leacy, Miles (US); casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: RE: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? We have our JSS, Netboot, and packages all hosted on a 10.5.2 server, I have obviously not yet run the update on it, I did on my test server and haven't noticed anything but it's really not being used heavily. We have been having some issues with tomcat and permissions, but I'm working with Casper support on that now to see what the cause is, I have to wait for it to act up again here and grab the info. Also we have not set up link aggregation yet on it, but should be doing that tomorrow. In short our experience with 10.5 server has not been bad however we never even had casper on 10.4 since we purchased it right as 10.5 came out and we kind of just went for it! Dustin Dorey Technology Support Cluster Specialist ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan 14445 Diamond Path West Rosemount, MN 55068 (952) 423-7971 dustin.dorey at district196.org -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:36 AM To: Roger Corbin; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? There was a significant bug in AFP under 10.5.2. That was supposedly fixed in 10.5.3, but I have yet to test it. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Roger Corbin Sent: Wed 6/4/2008 11:18 AM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. 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URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080605/8e4fcfab/attachment.htm From Halvorson.Jason at mayo.edu Thu Jun 5 09:24:43 2008 From: Halvorson.Jason at mayo.edu (Jason Halvorson) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:24:43 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now that we have updated to 10.5.3 server on our Xserve, the JSS that also hosts our packages has consistent AFP speeds from start to finish. With 10.5.3 on the server, the transfer rate is between 8MB/sec and 12MB/sec with a client on a 100Mb switch. Previously with 10.5.2 on the JSS/Package server, if you booted with 10.5.2 on the client, then packages would begin to transfer at normal speeds and at some point decrease to 100KB/sec. If you booted from 10.4.x on the client, the transfer speeds were consistent from start to finish. As a temporary fix, I hosted the packages on a server running 10.4.11. I just updated the server last night from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3, so I haven?t seen any adverse issues other than the CasperShare sharepoint could not be mounted. After the update and reboot, when connecting to the server via AFP, the sharepoint could not be found nor would it appear in the list on the client. I had to stop and start the AFP service in order for the CasperShare sharepoint to appear. Environment: -Xserve with 10.5.3 on Gigabit Ethernet switch hosting JSS and software packages. -Client used for testing PMG5 on 100 megabit switch. Jason Halvorson Desktop Analysis and Project Services Mayo Clinic Rochester, MN 55905 From: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:27:33 -0500 To: "Leacy, Miles (US)" Cc: "Dorey, Dustin" , , Subject: Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? Our JSS is on 10.5.2 now, and we've been doing fine, except for the Tomcat issues that Dusty refered to. Main CapseShare is on a different server, so there is little afp traffic on this box. -Nathaniel "Leacy, Miles (US)" Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/05/2008 08:57 AM To "Dorey, Dustin" , cc Subject Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? To clarify, the AFP issue in 10.5.2 is a known Mac OS X Server issue and has nothing to do with the JSS. My JSS is running on 10.5.2, and I have experienced very few issues, and JAMF support was able to work through them in minutes. On test systems, I have experienced the 10.5.2 AFP issue where the AFP service will "wig out" for lack of a better term, and you need to restart the service before anyone can connect. -----Original Message----- From: Dorey, Dustin [mailto:Dustin.Dorey at district196.org] Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 9:46 AM To: Leacy, Miles (US); casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: RE: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? We have our JSS, Netboot, and packages all hosted on a 10.5.2 server, I have obviously not yet run the update on it, I did on my test server and haven't noticed anything but it's really not being used heavily. We have been having some issues with tomcat and permissions, but I'm working with Casper support on that now to see what the cause is, I have to wait for it to act up again here and grab the info. Also we have not set up link aggregation yet on it, but should be doing that tomorrow. In short our experience with 10.5 server has not been bad however we never even had casper on 10.4 since we purchased it right as 10.5 came out and we kind of just went for it! Dustin Dorey Technology Support Cluster Specialist ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan 14445 Diamond Path West Rosemount, MN 55068 (952) 423-7971 dustin.dorey at district196.org -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:36 AM To: Roger Corbin; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? There was a significant bug in AFP under 10.5.2. That was supposedly fixed in 10.5.3, but I have yet to test it. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Roger Corbin Sent: Wed 6/4/2008 11:18 AM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Leopard Server ? Ready for prime time ? This is slightly off topic but I'm curious to know if many of you are running Leopard Server in lab environments yet, and how that is going ? With the release of 10.5.3 I was planning on deploying a few of these these summer, but I have been reading of some users having some problems. Maybe I need to wait for 10.5.4 An example of some comments : http://www.afp548.com/article.php? story=20080528204603120#comments I think some of the negatives are about problems with Active Directory integration, but we are currently not using Active Directory for our Macs. We are strictly Open Directory at the moment. Also how about 10.5.x Sever for your Casper Server ? Is this going well ? Much of a bonus over Tiger ? I'm considering switching that one as well. Just considering what ways to go with our summer server deployments. Roger Corbin Richmond School District #38 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080605/c164fb1a/attachment.html From swood at integerdallas.com Thu Jun 5 10:55:31 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:55:31 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates Message-ID: <9D7790EC-2EAB-4B52-A5CD-CA8F9568F810@integerdallas.com> How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. That and I am not 100% certain of the install order. I know that inside of ~/L/AS/Adobe/Updater5/Install is where Adobe places the files, but what's the easiest way to get them to stay there and determine the install order? Thanks guys & gals. Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 -- The information contained in this email transmission is solely for the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact us immediately by telephone for instructions if you have received this communication in error: (214) 758-6800 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080605/6d41ca55/attachment-0001.htm From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com Thu Jun 5 11:04:40 2008 From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US)) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:04:40 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates References: <9D7790EC-2EAB-4B52-A5CD-CA8F9568F810@integerdallas.com> Message-ID: Put the .dmg from Adobe into Casper Admin. Use the "Adobe Install" option (see page 174 in the Casper Suite Documentation). If an update is not recognized (it may happen when an update first comes out) as an Adobe Installer image, contact JAMF support. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Steve Wood Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 1:55 PM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. That and I am not 100% certain of the install order. I know that inside of ~/L/AS/Adobe/Updater5/Install is where Adobe places the files, but what's the easiest way to get them to stay there and determine the install order? Thanks guys & gals. Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 ________________________________ -- The information contained in this email transmission is solely for the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact us immediately by telephone for instructions if you have received this communication in error: (214) 758-6800 This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. From swood at integerdallas.com Thu Jun 5 11:08:32 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:08:32 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates In-Reply-To: References: <9D7790EC-2EAB-4B52-A5CD-CA8F9568F810@integerdallas.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I've got that part, but I'm more concerned with determining the install order for updates. For example, if I install Master Suite on a fresh machine and then let the Adobe updater download the updaters, what is the easiest way to determine the install order? Or are you saying that Casper will take care of that part? Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote: > Put the .dmg from Adobe into Casper Admin. Use the "Adobe Install" > option (see page 174 in the Casper Suite Documentation). > > If an update is not recognized (it may happen when an update first > comes out) as an Adobe Installer image, contact JAMF support. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Steve Wood > Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 1:55 PM > To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates > > How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS > products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like > to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to > spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. 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Use the "Adobe Install" > option (see page 174 in the Casper Suite Documentation). > > If an update is not recognized (it may happen when an update first > comes out) as an Adobe Installer image, contact JAMF support. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Steve Wood > Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 1:55 PM > To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates > > How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS > products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like > to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to > spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. 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Remember, Casper installs items alphabetically within a particular priority level. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Wood [mailto:swood at integerdallas.com] Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 2:12 PM To: Leacy, Miles (US) Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Casper] Adobe Updates I may have just answered my own question by looking closer at the files the udpater downloads. They are, for the most part, numbered in sequential order per product. However, does anyone know if Adobe cares what product is updated first? So if I have updates for Camera RAW and Photoshop, do I have to Photoshop then Camera RAW, or does it matter? Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote: Put the .dmg from Adobe into Casper Admin. Use the "Adobe Install" option (see page 174 in the Casper Suite Documentation). If an update is not recognized (it may happen when an update first comes out) as an Adobe Installer image, contact JAMF support. -----Original Message----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Steve Wood Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 1:55 PM To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. That and I am not 100% certain of the install order. I know that inside of ~/L/AS/Adobe/Updater5/Install is where Adobe places the files, but what's the easiest way to get them to stay there and determine the install order? Thanks guys & gals. Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 ________________________________ -- The information contained in this email transmission is solely for the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact us immediately by telephone for instructions if you have received this communication in error: (214) 758-6800 This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. From swood at integerdallas.com Thu Jun 5 12:06:23 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates In-Reply-To: References: <9D7790EC-2EAB-4B52-A5CD-CA8F9568F810@integerdallas.com> Message-ID: <1639273B-D851-4E88-BB69-4C27E9164B8F@integerdallas.com> Thanks Miles. I was actually looking to be a little lazier than that. ;-) Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote: > I don't know about Adobe's requirements, but the download page for > update "X" should note things like "Please install update "Y" before > installing this update". > > If you find a necessary order, you can set different priorities for > the different installs. Remember, Casper installs items > alphabetically within a particular priority level. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Wood [mailto:swood at integerdallas.com] > Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 2:12 PM > To: Leacy, Miles (US) > Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [Casper] Adobe Updates > > I may have just answered my own question by looking closer at the > files the udpater downloads. They are, for the most part, numbered > in sequential order per product. However, does anyone know if Adobe > cares what product is updated first? So if I have updates for > Camera RAW and Photoshop, do I have to Photoshop then Camera RAW, or > does it matter? > > > Steve Wood > Director, Information Technology > swood at integerdallas.com > > The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 > T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote: > > > Put the .dmg from Adobe into Casper Admin. Use the "Adobe Install" > option (see page 174 in the Casper Suite Documentation). > > If an update is not recognized (it may happen when an update first > comes out) as an Adobe Installer image, contact JAMF support. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com on behalf of Steve Wood > Sent: Thu 6/5/2008 1:55 PM > To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates > > How does everyone out there handle getting the Adobe updates for CS > products? We have the Master Suite of CS3, and I would really like > to get all of the updates into Casper, but I really don't want to > spend an afternoon downloading them one by one from Adobe. 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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:20:33 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Apple Pro Apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sean, The volume licensed installs don't bind to specific hardware like the single license versions do. So if you make a package of a single seat license on one machine it will not work on another, just the one you made the pack on. Craig Ernst Systems Management and Configuration +-------------------+ University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Learning and Technology Services 105 Garfield Ave Eau Claire, WI 54701 Phone: (715) 836-3639 Fax: (715) 836-6001 +-------------------+ ernstcs at uwec.edu ________________________________ From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Sean Parker [sean.parker at squaregroup.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:48 AM To: Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com Subject: [Casper] Apple Pro Apps Hi, I have found that when creating packages for the apple pro apps the package doesn?t hold the license key so when these apps are deployed and upon first launch the app requires the serial no to be re-entered. I have found however that when a volume license is used it does hold the license within the package. Any help with this would be great. Thanks Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080606/d00cfd9a/attachment.html From clinton.blackmore at westwind.ab.ca Fri Jun 6 07:18:09 2008 From: clinton.blackmore at westwind.ab.ca (Clinton Blackmore) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:18:09 -0600 Subject: [Casper] Configure LDAP via DHCP In-Reply-To: <028BC048-03F5-4B2F-9208-6850B4F862BD@integerdallas.com> References: <028BC048-03F5-4B2F-9208-6850B4F862BD@integerdallas.com> Message-ID: <3ADCD373-9F3C-4812-969A-2BA0772074CD@westwind.ab.ca> I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the change you want to make, but if you want to edit a plist, you want to use the "defaults" command. It will even edit binary plist files. If I misunderstood the question, though, it may be that you need to manipulate the data already within the plist (and are thinking of piping a defaults read into sed into defaults write), in which case, we are better able to help if we have details on the transformation you have in mind. Cheers, Clinton Blackmore On 5-Jun-08, at 9:50 AM, Steve Wood wrote: > Anyone have a script to trip the "Add DHCP Supplied LDAP"? The only > way I can see to do it is via a shell script using sed or something > else to edit the plist file. > > Steve Wood > Director, Information Technology > swood at integerdallas.com > > The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 > T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 > > > > > > > -- > The information contained in this email transmission is solely for > the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. > If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the > person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient; he or > she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the information > contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. 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URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080606/e2b139d7/attachment.htm From swood at integerdallas.com Fri Jun 6 07:51:30 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:51:30 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Configure LDAP via DHCP In-Reply-To: <3ADCD373-9F3C-4812-969A-2BA0772074CD@westwind.ab.ca> References: <028BC048-03F5-4B2F-9208-6850B4F862BD@integerdallas.com> <3ADCD373-9F3C-4812-969A-2BA0772074CD@westwind.ab.ca> Message-ID: In the Directory Utility application, when you open the LDAP service you can tell LDAP to get its information from DHCP. I want to set that from a shell script. Using defaults write was my first thought, but the plist that controls that setting is not in the domain ("Domain SearchNodeConfig.plist does not exist"). So, that means in order to "trip" the flag you need to edit the plist by hand. Now, the plist contains information in this format: DHCP LDAP /Sets/5FB6FAF4-3397-4981-BCC0-4D8FE463CA1C Search Node PlugIn Version Search Node PlugIn Version 1.7 Search Policy 1 Notice the key "DHCP LDAP". You need to set the value of the key to true, as it is here (), if you want to gather the LDAP info from DHCP. Since I cannot use defaults write to do this, that means I have to use sed to parse out the key and then inject the true flag. BTW, the key value (in this case /Sets/5FB6FAF4-3397-4981- BCC0-4D8FE463CA1C) is different for each machine, so just dropping the plist into each machine won't work (I tried). Hope that helps. Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 6, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the change you want to make, but if > you want to edit a plist, you want to use the "defaults" command. > It will even edit binary plist files. > > If I misunderstood the question, though, it may be that you need to > manipulate the data already within the plist (and are thinking of > piping a defaults read into sed into defaults write), in which case, > we are better able to help if we have details on the transformation > you have in mind. > > Cheers, > Clinton Blackmore > > > > On 5-Jun-08, at 9:50 AM, Steve Wood wrote: > >> Anyone have a script to trip the "Add DHCP Supplied LDAP"? The >> only way I can see to do it is via a shell script using sed or >> something else to edit the plist file. >> >> Steve Wood >> Director, Information Technology >> swood at integerdallas.com >> >> The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 >> T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The information contained in this email transmission is solely for >> the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or >> confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended >> recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the >> information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, >> dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. 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From clinton.blackmore at westwind.ab.ca Mon Jun 9 08:26:52 2008 From: clinton.blackmore at westwind.ab.ca (Clinton Blackmore) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:26:52 -0600 Subject: [Casper] Configure LDAP via DHCP In-Reply-To: References: <028BC048-03F5-4B2F-9208-6850B4F862BD@integerdallas.com> <3ADCD373-9F3C-4812-969A-2BA0772074CD@westwind.ab.ca> Message-ID: <3F0C1B5C-DCE5-42E8-8B66-D52B5653B935@westwind.ab.ca> What is the full path and file name of the plist? Also, do you have any idea how the key value is generated -- it doesn't look like a MAC address or GUID. (It may be worthwhile to check if a machine given a plist that does not include the key will notice that and generate it itself.) Clinton Blackmore On 6-Jun-08, at 8:51 AM, Steve Wood wrote: > In the Directory Utility application, when you open the LDAP service > you can tell LDAP to get its information from DHCP. I want to set > that from a shell script. Using defaults write was my first > thought, but the plist that controls that setting is not in the > domain ("Domain SearchNodeConfig.plist does not exist"). So, that > means in order to "trip" the flag you need to edit the plist by hand. > > Now, the plist contains information in this format: > > > "> > > > DHCP LDAP > > /Sets/5FB6FAF4-3397-4981-BCC0-4D8FE463CA1C > > > Search Node PlugIn Version > Search Node PlugIn Version 1.7 > Search Policy > 1 > > > > > Notice the key "DHCP LDAP". You need to set the value of the key to > true, as it is here (), if you want to gather the LDAP info > from DHCP. Since I cannot use defaults write to do this, that means > I have to use sed to parse out the key and then inject the true > flag. BTW, the key value (in this case /Sets/ > 5FB6FAF4-3397-4981-BCC0-4D8FE463CA1C) is different for each > machine, so just dropping the plist into each machine won't work (I > tried). > > Hope that helps. > > Steve Wood > Director, Information Technology > swood at integerdallas.com > > The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 > T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 > > > > > On Jun 6, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Clinton Blackmore wrote: > >> I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the change you want to make, but >> if you want to edit a plist, you want to use the "defaults" >> command. It will even edit binary plist files. >> >> If I misunderstood the question, though, it may be that you need to >> manipulate the data already within the plist (and are thinking of >> piping a defaults read into sed into defaults write), in which >> case, we are better able to help if we have details on the >> transformation you have in mind. >> >> Cheers, >> Clinton Blackmore >> >> >> >> On 5-Jun-08, at 9:50 AM, Steve Wood wrote: >> >>> Anyone have a script to trip the "Add DHCP Supplied LDAP"? The >>> only way I can see to do it is via a shell script using sed or >>> something else to edit the plist file. >>> >>> Steve Wood >>> Director, Information Technology >>> swood at integerdallas.com >>> >>> The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 >>> T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The information contained in this email transmission is solely for >>> the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or >>> confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended >>> recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended >>> recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the >>> information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, >>> dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is >>> strictly prohibited. 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I end up delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? Thanks Paul Austin Wachovia Information Technology Enterprise Strategy and Design 704-427-0903 paul.austin at wachovia.com : -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080613/fa72e7f2/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Fri Jun 13 06:27:36 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:27:36 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies Message-ID: I had some issues in the beginning. What I ended up doing is setting up a policy on a set VLAN on a managed switch. So, that policy only would go out to a set range of IPs. Since all my users are laptops I would have them come plug it into that VLAN and reboot and they would get CS3 pushed down to them. Then you would have to run the application once, to get all the first run info, quit it and rerun the application again, and all licenses would take. I also did the same thing with a lab of imacs but I deployed it using a smart group. For the most part it worked as long as I ran the application twice at the very beginning. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Paul Austin 06/13/08 8:11 AM >>> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? Thanks Paul Austin Wachovia Information Technology Enterprise Strategy and Design 704-427-0903 paul.austin at wachovia.com : From swood at integerdallas.com Fri Jun 13 06:55:06 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We utilize a script to run Photoshop after installing CS3. Photoshop will start up without asking for the first run info, and that will serialize all of the apps. The script: #!/bin/sh open /Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ CS3/Adobe\ Photoshop\ CS3.app/ echo "Done" We are a small location, so I just push CS3 during the imaging process. I don't really care how long it takes because, to use Ronco, I "Set it, and forget it". Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Thomas Larkin wrote: > I had some issues in the beginning. What I ended up doing is > setting up > a policy on a set VLAN on a managed switch. So, that policy only > would > go out to a set range of IPs. Since all my users are laptops I would > have them come plug it into that VLAN and reboot and they would get > CS3 > pushed down to them. Then you would have to run the application once, > to get all the first run info, quit it and rerun the application > again, > and all licenses would take. I also did the same thing with a lab of > imacs but I deployed it using a smart group. For the most part it > worked as long as I ran the application twice at the very beginning. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> Paul Austin 06/13/08 8:11 AM >>> > Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... > > My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best > strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have > been > testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in > Casper > admin to create a deployment package seems to only function part of > the > time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. > (Note: I am using Design Premium and an open license). The time it > takes > to > deliver is also too long for my liking. I have also been experimenting > with > delivering CS3 in a policy after the initial image delivery. Results > are > also mixed. I know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys > doing > your deployments? > > Thanks > > > Paul Austin > Wachovia > Information Technology > Enterprise Strategy and Design > 704-427-0903 > paul.austin at wachovia.com > > > : > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -- The information contained in this email transmission is solely for the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient; he or she is prohibited from reading or disclosing the information contained in this transmission. Any examination, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Matthew From RIVERAR at email.chop.edu Fri Jun 13 06:55:46 2008 From: RIVERAR at email.chop.edu (Raymond Rivera) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:55:46 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Casper Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6 Message-ID: I will be out of the office and will answer all email upon my return Monday June 16. From jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk Fri Jun 13 07:13:35 2008 From: jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk (James Nairn) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:13:35 +0100 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FEE1F0C-A957-491B-9BB6-E3A8CE83F470@cam.ac.uk> On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:11, Paul Austin wrote: > Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... > > My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best > strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I > have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 > methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only > function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the > License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an > open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my > liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a > policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I > know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your > deployments? For this Academic Year we have used the special CS3 functionality of Casper and have had _extremely_ mixed results. Although CS3 installs correctly and is registered etc the Adobe updaters generally just stop working. Because the Adobe patchers never complete successfully we then have issues with the jamfHelper app refusing to allow logons. Even if jamfHelper does quit, a user logging in is confronted by the remnants of the failed installation such as unmountable disk images. In the JSS each package is set to have the Dock icon suppressed but that doesn't work either! It would be nice to know if anyone has got CS3 installation working correctly... I'm now off to file some bug reports! James -- James Nairn mailto:jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Systems Specialist University of Cambridge Computing Service Pembroke St, Cambridge, CB2 3QH Tel (01223 7)63486 From paul.austin at wachovia.com Fri Jun 13 07:23:13 2008 From: paul.austin at wachovia.com (Paul Austin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:23:13 -0400 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: <6FEE1F0C-A957-491B-9BB6-E3A8CE83F470@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have read back in the archives of this list and found the instructions for doing a setup capture on CS3. Has anyone had better luck with that method? Paul On 6/13/08 10:13 AM, "James Nairn" wrote: > > On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:11, Paul Austin wrote: > >> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >> >> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best >> strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I >> have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 >> methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only >> function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the >> License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an >> open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my >> liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a >> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I >> know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your >> deployments? > > For this Academic Year we have used the special CS3 functionality of > Casper and have had _extremely_ mixed results. Although CS3 installs > correctly and is registered etc the Adobe updaters generally just stop > working. Because the Adobe patchers never complete successfully we > then have issues with the jamfHelper app refusing to allow logons. > Even if jamfHelper does quit, a user logging in is confronted by the > remnants of the failed installation such as unmountable disk images. > In the JSS each package is set to have the Dock icon suppressed but > that doesn't work either! > > It would be nice to know if anyone has got CS3 installation working > correctly... > > I'm now off to file some bug reports! > > James From mwv1 at meadwestvaco.com Fri Jun 13 07:46:12 2008 From: mwv1 at meadwestvaco.com (Michael W VanVliet) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:46:12 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Michael W VanVliet is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 06/08/2008 and will not return until 06/14/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. This electronic message contains information from MeadWestvaco Corporation or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify MeadWestvaco immediately at postmaster at MeadWestvaco.com. From eanderson at mitty.com Fri Jun 13 08:56:15 2008 From: eanderson at mitty.com (Eric Anderson) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: <6FEE1F0C-A957-491B-9BB6-E3A8CE83F470@cam.ac.uk> References: <6FEE1F0C-A957-491B-9BB6-E3A8CE83F470@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <65A7C5DA-A9C7-4470-8EA0-E8F019A4AFA6@mitty.com> This summer is my first attempt with CS3 as well. I'm having the same issue as James; CS3 installs correctly, but the updates get stuck. I'd love to hear how someone got their installation working, too. Eric Anderson Director of Information Technology Archbishop Mitty High School On Jun 13, 2008, at 7:13 AM, James Nairn wrote: > > On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:11, Paul Austin wrote: > >> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >> >> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best >> strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I >> have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 >> methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only >> function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the >> License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an >> open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my >> liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a >> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I >> know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your >> deployments? > > For this Academic Year we have used the special CS3 functionality of > Casper and have had _extremely_ mixed results. Although CS3 installs > correctly and is registered etc the Adobe updaters generally just stop > working. Because the Adobe patchers never complete successfully we > then have issues with the jamfHelper app refusing to allow logons. > Even if jamfHelper does quit, a user logging in is confronted by the > remnants of the failed installation such as unmountable disk images. > In the JSS each package is set to have the Dock icon suppressed but > that doesn't work either! > > It would be nice to know if anyone has got CS3 installation working > correctly... > > I'm now off to file some bug reports! > > James > > -- > James Nairn mailto:jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk > Macintosh Systems Specialist > University of Cambridge Computing Service > Pembroke St, Cambridge, CB2 3QH Tel (01223 7)63486 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From tlarki at kckps.org Fri Jun 13 09:01:27 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:01:27 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies Message-ID: I deployed about 200 installs of CS3 this last school year with little problems. However, I did not update the product, and I did not allow the users to update it. I didn't want to deal with that, haha, but if it came down it and it had to be updated I just ran it manually. Thankfully, my users didn't seem to need any updates. It was CS3 premium, but I think the bulk of them just use PS and Illustrator. Next year will be different though because I hear the classes are changing. So, I will have to wait until the design teacher emails me. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Eric Anderson 06/13/08 10:56 AM >>> This summer is my first attempt with CS3 as well. I'm having the same issue as James; CS3 installs correctly, but the updates get stuck. I'd love to hear how someone got their installation working, too. Eric Anderson Director of Information Technology Archbishop Mitty High School On Jun 13, 2008, at 7:13 AM, James Nairn wrote: > > On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:11, Paul Austin wrote: > >> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >> >> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best >> strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I >> have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 >> methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only >> function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the >> License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an >> open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my >> liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a >> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I >> know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your >> deployments? > > For this Academic Year we have used the special CS3 functionality of > Casper and have had _extremely_ mixed results. Although CS3 installs > correctly and is registered etc the Adobe updaters generally just stop > working. Because the Adobe patchers never complete successfully we > then have issues with the jamfHelper app refusing to allow logons. > Even if jamfHelper does quit, a user logging in is confronted by the > remnants of the failed installation such as unmountable disk images. > In the JSS each package is set to have the Dock icon suppressed but > that doesn't work either! > > It would be nice to know if anyone has got CS3 installation working > correctly... > > I'm now off to file some bug reports! > > James > > -- > James Nairn mailto:jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk > Macintosh Systems Specialist > University of Cambridge Computing Service > Pembroke St, Cambridge, CB2 3QH Tel (01223 7)63486 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com Fri Jun 13 09:03:09 2008 From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (Brenner, John) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:03:09 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The biggest issue that we have had with the CS3 installers are 1. They must be clean installs, by this I mean there cannot be any remnants of Adobe CS3 or CS3 like products installed prior to a Casper CS3 install. 2. Time CS3 installs take forever. On a dual g4 I have timed it a 3 plus hours. 3. Updaters: If the updater is applied to a standard Casper package it likes to fail. Standard Casper install and CS3 1. Acrobat is Funky at best and there are differences between PPC and Intel installs. 2. Updates break the installs On 6/13/08 8:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: > Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... > > My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best strategies > for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been testing for > several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper admin to > create a deployment package seems to only function part of the time. I end up > delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am using > Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too > long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a > policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I know I am > late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? > > Thanks > > > Paul Austin > Wachovia > Information Technology > Enterprise Strategy and Design > 704-427-0903 > paul.austin at wachovia.com > > > : > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd > love to hear how someone got their installation working, too. > > Eric Anderson > Director of Information Technology > Archbishop Mitty High School > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 7:13 AM, James Nairn wrote: > >> >> On 13 Jun 2008, at 14:11, Paul Austin wrote: >> >>> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >>> >>> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best >>> strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I >>> have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 >>> methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only >>> function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the >>> License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an >>> open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my >>> liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a >>> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I >>> know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your >>> deployments? >> >> For this Academic Year we have used the special CS3 functionality of >> Casper and have had _extremely_ mixed results. Although CS3 installs >> correctly and is registered etc the Adobe updaters generally just stop >> working. Because the Adobe patchers never complete successfully we >> then have issues with the jamfHelper app refusing to allow logons. >> Even if jamfHelper does quit, a user logging in is confronted by the >> remnants of the failed installation such as unmountable disk images. >> In the JSS each package is set to have the Dock icon suppressed but >> that doesn't work either! >> >> It would be nice to know if anyone has got CS3 installation working >> correctly... >> >> I'm now off to file some bug reports! >> >> James >> >> -- >> James Nairn mailto:jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk >> Macintosh Systems Specialist >> University of Cambridge Computing Service >> Pembroke St, Cambridge, CB2 3QH Tel (01223 7)63486 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Casper mailing list >> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 From matthew at thinkfixed.com Fri Jun 13 09:04:26 2008 From: matthew at thinkfixed.com (matthew at thinkfixed.com) Date: 13 Jun 2008 10:04:26 -0600 Subject: [Casper] Casper Digest, Vol 18, Issue 7 Message-ID: <20080613160426.31994.qmail@thinkfixed.modwest.com> I will be out of the office from Friday June 6 and returning Thursday June 19. Please direct any and all correspondence to help at thinkfixed.com for a prompt reply to any needs. Thanks and have a great day. Matthew From tlarki at kckps.org Fri Jun 13 09:06:23 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies Message-ID: I can't remember the specifics, but I swear I upgraded a CS2 lab to CS3 with the casper package.... Perhaps I ran pre script to just rm everything that Adobe puts out there but I don't think I did that. It was too long ago to remember the exacts though. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Brenner, John" 06/13/08 11:03 AM >>> The biggest issue that we have had with the CS3 installers are 1. They must be clean installs, by this I mean there cannot be any remnants of Adobe CS3 or CS3 like products installed prior to a Casper CS3 install. 2. Time CS3 installs take forever. On a dual g4 I have timed it a 3 plus hours. 3. Updaters: If the updater is applied to a standard Casper package it likes to fail. Standard Casper install and CS3 1. Acrobat is Funky at best and there are differences between PPC and Intel installs. 2. Updates break the installs On 6/13/08 8:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: > Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... > > My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best strategies > for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been testing for > several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper admin to > create a deployment package seems to only function part of the time. I end up > delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am using > Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too > long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a > policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I know I am > late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? > > Thanks > > > Paul Austin > Wachovia > Information Technology > Enterprise Strategy and Design > 704-427-0903 > paul.austin at wachovia.com > > > : > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 From swood at integerdallas.com Fri Jun 13 09:21:00 2008 From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4184495D-4A2B-4155-AA68-F406B0C95DA7@integerdallas.com> Yeah, if you have any Adobe product on the system, the CS3 install will fail miserably. You have to run a pre-install script to remove all current Adobe products. And we too have had issues with the updates. InDesign will sit there running for ever until you kill it. And it doesn't kill easy. I haven't gotten a chance to delve too deeply into it yet. Steve Wood Director, Information Technology swood at integerdallas.com The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201 T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475 On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Thomas Larkin wrote: > I can't remember the specifics, but I swear I upgraded a CS2 lab to > CS3 > with the casper package.... > > Perhaps I ran pre script to just rm everything that Adobe puts out > there > but I don't think I did that. It was too long ago to remember the > exacts though. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Brenner, John" 06/13/08 11:03 AM >>>> >>> > The biggest issue that we have had with the CS3 installers are > 1. They must be clean installs, by this I mean there cannot be any > remnants > of Adobe CS3 or CS3 like products installed prior to a Casper CS3 > install. > 2. Time CS3 installs take forever. On a dual g4 I have timed it a 3 > plus > hours. > 3. Updaters: If the updater is applied to a standard Casper package it > likes > to fail. > > Standard Casper install and CS3 > 1. Acrobat is Funky at best and there are differences between PPC and > Intel > installs. > 2. Updates break the installs > > > On 6/13/08 8:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: > >> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >> >> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best > strategies >> for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been > testing for >> several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper >> admin > to >> create a deployment package seems to only function part of the >> time. I > end up >> delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am > using >> Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is > also too >> long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering >> CS3 > in a >> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I > know I am >> late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Paul Austin >> Wachovia >> Information Technology >> Enterprise Strategy and Design >> 704-427-0903 >> paul.austin at wachovia.com >> >> >> : >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Casper mailing list >> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > > John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | > 651-632-4072 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -- The information contained in this email transmission is solely for the addressee(s) named above and is privileged and/or confidential. 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Something gets installed that conflicts with CS3 installs. I remove and reinstall the Adobe common package after the CS3 install. On 6/13/08 11:06 AM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > I can't remember the specifics, but I swear I upgraded a CS2 lab to CS3 > with the casper package.... > > Perhaps I ran pre script to just rm everything that Adobe puts out there > but I don't think I did that. It was too long ago to remember the > exacts though. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Brenner, John" 06/13/08 11:03 AM >>> > The biggest issue that we have had with the CS3 installers are > 1. They must be clean installs, by this I mean there cannot be any > remnants > of Adobe CS3 or CS3 like products installed prior to a Casper CS3 > install. > 2. Time CS3 installs take forever. On a dual g4 I have timed it a 3 > plus > hours. > 3. Updaters: If the updater is applied to a standard Casper package it > likes > to fail. > > Standard Casper install and CS3 > 1. Acrobat is Funky at best and there are differences between PPC and > Intel > installs. > 2. Updates break the installs > > > On 6/13/08 8:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: > >> Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... >> >> My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best > strategies >> for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been > testing for >> several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper admin > to >> create a deployment package seems to only function part of the time. I > end up >> delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am > using >> Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is > also too >> long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 > in a >> policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I > know I am >> late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Paul Austin >> Wachovia >> Information Technology >> Enterprise Strategy and Design >> 704-427-0903 >> paul.austin at wachovia.com >> >> >> : >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Casper mailing list >> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > > John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 > > > > > > > John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 From rharter at uwsp.edu Fri Jun 13 09:27:20 2008 From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:27:20 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Mounting SMB share at login (kerberos) Message-ID: Hey all- Does anyone mount SMB shares at login using kerberized credentials? I'm working on a script to mount user shares as a login policy and haven't gotten it to work because of a gssd failure (error 19777, no kredential cash found, yet I can `klist` and see that I have a ticket). The script works fine after login when run as root manually, but at login it doesn't work. I'm not sure if it is an issue with the su environment, or just a bug. I figured I'd ask and see what other people are doing to mount SMB shares at login. PS- Sorry if this is a dup, I sent it before I confirmed joining the list, so I don't think it went, but could be wrong. Thanks Ryan Harter UW - Stevens Point Workstation Developer 715.346.2716 Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ryan Harter UW - Stevens Point Workstation Developer 715.346.2716 Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:36 AM, NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org wrote: > > Ryan. I hear that this doesn't work on Leopard client when run as > a login hook, unless it has been fixed? > > > > Ryan Harter > Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com > 06/13/08 11:27 AM > > To > > cc > Subject > [Casper] Mounting SMB share at login (kerberos) > > > > > > Hey all- > > Does anyone mount SMB shares at login using kerberized credentials? > I'm working on a script to mount user shares as a login policy and > haven't gotten it to work because of a gssd failure (error 19777, no > kredential cash found, yet I can `klist` and see that I have a > ticket). The script works fine after login when run as root > manually, but at login it doesn't work. I'm not sure if it is an > issue with the su environment, or just a bug. > > I figured I'd ask and see what other people are doing to mount SMB > shares at login. > > PS- Sorry if this is a dup, I sent it before I confirmed joining the > list, so I don't think it went, but could be wrong. > > Thanks > > Ryan Harter > UW - Stevens Point > Workstation Developer > 715.346.2716 > Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080613/8a4dbe25/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Fri Jun 13 10:41:21 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:41:21 -0500 Subject: [Casper] hidden users in 10.5 Message-ID: Since we are migrating into 10.5 I want to set up a few local hidden user accounts. 1 for local administration by the IT staff and the other for all the casper stuff. Before I would just create the user, move it to a different directory, change and apply ownerships and modify paths in netinfo. Well, in 10.5 there is no longer any netinfo. How are you all doing this? here are the commands I am using, perhaps my syntax is off but I yield no errors when running it. sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME PrimaryGroupID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UniqueID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UserShell /bin/bash sudo dscl . passwd /Users/$USERNAME $PASSWORD sudo dscl . append /Groups/admin GroupMembership $USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME NFSHomeDirectory /private/var/$USERNAME Any advice? I already edited the /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist to hide all users under UID 500 and that seems to work. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 From josh at jamfsoftware.com Fri Jun 13 12:25:46 2008 From: josh at jamfsoftware.com (Josh Holland) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:25:46 -0700 Subject: [Casper] hidden users in 10.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thomas, You could use the jamf command, which has a verb that rolls all the commands into one. ie: sudo jamf createAccount -username netadmin -realname "Network Administrator" -password p at 55w0rd -home /var/netadmin -shell "/bin/bash" -hiddenUser -admin This could be run as an @reboot script after imaging, or on your OS package by running it when building the OS (if you don't have the jamf binary on it, run it from a thumb drive or other parition). Please let us know if that helps. Thanks, Josh ...................................................................................................................................................................................... Joshua Holland | Sr. Systems Engineer | JAMF Software 1011 Washington Ave S. #350 Minneapolis MN 55415 Office (612) 605-6625 | Fax (612) 332-9054 | josh at jamfsoftware.com | http://www.jamfsoftware.com On 6/13/08 12:41 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Since we are migrating into 10.5 I want to set up a few local hidden user accounts. 1 for local administration by the IT staff and the other for all the casper stuff. Before I would just create the user, move it to a different directory, change and apply ownerships and modify paths in netinfo. Well, in 10.5 there is no longer any netinfo. How are you all doing this? here are the commands I am using, perhaps my syntax is off but I yield no errors when running it. sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME PrimaryGroupID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UniqueID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UserShell /bin/bash sudo dscl . passwd /Users/$USERNAME $PASSWORD sudo dscl . append /Groups/admin GroupMembership $USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME NFSHomeDirectory /private/var/$USERNAME Any advice? I already edited the /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist to hide all users under UID 500 and that seems to work. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080613/efc128c5/attachment.html From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Fri Jun 13 12:30:28 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:30:28 -0500 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Great responses, and I'll add on my two cents for what it's worth. We started our deployment using the standard Composer packaging process, which took a few attempts to get it to work. JAMF at that time hadn't implemented the Adobe CS3 installer framework at this point so you didn't have much choice. As John Brenner mentions there are differences in the Acrobat line of product from PPC and Intel. Reader was particularly fun if you wanted to deploy that...if you install Reader when CS3 is not present it installs totally different from when you install Reader with CS3 present, and again two separate packages for Intel and PPC. The canned large package worked fine, but then you have to update that package as time goes. Benefit, it tended to be a faster install with less failures. Enter the Adobe CS3 framework into the JSS. Sweet, I don't have to make a pack, I just upload a DMG and the DMG updaters. It's too bad Adobe pretty much sucked on their part of the deal, or are very inconsistent. JAMF has done an excellent job of dealing with the different types of setup.app different applications came with. So now we use this method. And again, people have pretty much nailed all the key points. If existing software is there it can flip out. The fact that the software isn't licensed at first run is a known issue by Adobe, but from what I know they don't intend to do anything about it? And many of the updates we have do hang or never end, particularly on some of the older iMac systems. I've been trying to sort out which ones are more of a culprit, like flashlight perhaps, amongst others. Yes, running Photoshop first is the best option. The only thing beyond this that we've done is to better deal with mixed suites of CS3, for example Design Premium and Web Standard for example. I could be wrong here, but once you start mixing serialization things tend to break. Let's say you want to deploy CS3 Premiere Pro later, with a different serialization. That may break your previous installs. We purchased one set of the Adobe Master Collection so we had two things: 1) A serialization number to use everywhere that encompassed all applications so no conflicts 2) access to download electronically the single DMG file of Master Collection so all of the CS3 applications where in one JSS Adobe Install. I'm not sure everyone gets access to the electronic downloads, but if you do this don't try to download it from the page, don't try to download it with their accelerator software on a Windows machine...just use the directions for a regular ole FTP client and wait. We still purchase Design Premium and Web Standard licenses that we track usage for with KeyServer, and when I make the installer in Casper Admin for Design Premium, naturally I only deploy the proper components to comply. Since we started using that things have worked well, and the only thing we have left plaguing us are getting the updates to not hang. By the time that gets sorted out, if at all, Adobe Creative Suite 4 will be out with the same issues I'm sure. Craig Ernst Systems Management & Configuration ---------------------------------- University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Learning & Technology Services 105 Garfield Ave Eau Claire, WI 54701 Phone: (715) 836-3639 Fax: (715) 836-6001 ---------------------------------- ernstcs at uwec.edu On 6/13/08 6:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your deployments? Thanks Paul Austin Wachovia Information Technology Enterprise Strategy and Design 704-427-0903 paul.austin at wachovia.com : -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080613/d6bf39f3/attachment.htm From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Fri Jun 13 12:39:15 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:39:15 -0500 Subject: [Casper] hidden users in 10.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tom, Use this. The only thing that annoys me is that in things like the Sharing panel for Remote Login for example, that account still shows up in the GUI so it's not totally hidden. Craig On 6/13/08 12:25 PM, "Josh Holland" wrote: Thomas, You could use the jamf command, which has a verb that rolls all the commands into one. ie: sudo jamf createAccount -username netadmin -realname "Network Administrator" -password p at 55w0rd -home /var/netadmin -shell "/bin/bash" -hiddenUser -admin This could be run as an @reboot script after imaging, or on your OS package by running it when building the OS (if you don't have the jamf binary on it, run it from a thumb drive or other parition). Please let us know if that helps. Thanks, Josh ...................................................................................................................................................................................... Joshua Holland | Sr. Systems Engineer | JAMF Software 1011 Washington Ave S. #350 Minneapolis MN 55415 Office (612) 605-6625 | Fax (612) 332-9054 | josh at jamfsoftware.com | http://www.jamfsoftware.com On 6/13/08 12:41 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Since we are migrating into 10.5 I want to set up a few local hidden user accounts. 1 for local administration by the IT staff and the other for all the casper stuff. Before I would just create the user, move it to a different directory, change and apply ownerships and modify paths in netinfo. Well, in 10.5 there is no longer any netinfo. How are you all doing this? here are the commands I am using, perhaps my syntax is off but I yield no errors when running it. sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME PrimaryGroupID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UniqueID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UserShell /bin/bash sudo dscl . passwd /Users/$USERNAME $PASSWORD sudo dscl . append /Groups/admin GroupMembership $USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME NFSHomeDirectory /private/var/$USERNAME Any advice? I already edited the /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist to hide all users under UID 500 and that seems to work. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080613/7558000a/attachment.html From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Fri Jun 13 12:49:44 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:44 -0500 Subject: [Casper] hidden users in 10.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To add to this some more...if you haven't done so already...you should totally exploit the capabilities of the jamf binary on your managed systems, particularly in your scripting. To see all the options: /usr/sbin/jamf help To get specific help for one like the one mentioned below: /usr/sbin/jamf help createAccount Make sure you are really careful with the -hiddenUser portion and the case...I screwed that up a few times so it wasn't hidden. =) Craig On 6/13/08 12:25 PM, "Josh Holland" wrote: Thomas, You could use the jamf command, which has a verb that rolls all the commands into one. ie: sudo jamf createAccount -username netadmin -realname "Network Administrator" -password p at 55w0rd -home /var/netadmin -shell "/bin/bash" -hiddenUser -admin This could be run as an @reboot script after imaging, or on your OS package by running it when building the OS (if you don't have the jamf binary on it, run it from a thumb drive or other parition). Please let us know if that helps. Thanks, Josh ...................................................................................................................................................................................... Joshua Holland | Sr. Systems Engineer | JAMF Software 1011 Washington Ave S. #350 Minneapolis MN 55415 Office (612) 605-6625 | Fax (612) 332-9054 | josh at jamfsoftware.com | http://www.jamfsoftware.com On 6/13/08 12:41 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Since we are migrating into 10.5 I want to set up a few local hidden user accounts. 1 for local administration by the IT staff and the other for all the casper stuff. Before I would just create the user, move it to a different directory, change and apply ownerships and modify paths in netinfo. Well, in 10.5 there is no longer any netinfo. How are you all doing this? here are the commands I am using, perhaps my syntax is off but I yield no errors when running it. sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME PrimaryGroupID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UniqueID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UserShell /bin/bash sudo dscl . passwd /Users/$USERNAME $PASSWORD sudo dscl . append /Groups/admin GroupMembership $USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME NFSHomeDirectory /private/var/$USERNAME Any advice? I already edited the /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist to hide all users under UID 500 and that seems to work. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080616/c7fa561d/attachment.html From william.smith at merrillcorp.com Mon Jun 16 05:07:23 2008 From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:07:23 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Quark 7 install issues In-Reply-To: <49127F1DF3F9AC4A84F2C082521BB4FD514254@exch-lon-be-01.weu.grey.global> Message-ID: We?ve run into this several times. Casper is really poor about reporting failures sometimes. Quark 7.x should run on Intel regardless of whether or not you?ve built it there or on PPC. We use SAV ourselves and while it may slow the install a little it has never prevented an install. The best way to troubleshoot is to run the install from the command line so that you get more feedback on why it's failing. Open the Terminal application found in /Applications/Utilities and type "jamf help" for a list of commands. You're interested in the commands for "mounting" the volume and "installing" the package. Hope this helps! -- bill William M. Smith, Technical Analyst Digital Information Systems Support Merrill Communications, LLC (651) 632-1492 On 6/16/08 4:16 AM, "Toms, Ben (Grey Communications Group - IT)" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Hope you can shed some light on a install issue I am having. > > I?ve created a quark install image in composer by creating the > before & after snapshots. > > The install is for Quark 7.2 PPC, when running the install through > Casper it takes about 15 seconds then it says that the install is successful. > But nothing is installed! > > The install CD is universal binary but the snapshot is taken from > a PPC mac, which is why I specified the build as PPC. I have disabled our AV > on the Macs I have tested this with (our AV is Symantec Corporate Edition). > All Macs are running 10.4.11. > > Any ideas? From matthew at thinkfixed.com Mon Jun 16 05:07:34 2008 From: matthew at thinkfixed.com (matthew at thinkfixed.com) Date: 16 Jun 2008 06:07:34 -0600 Subject: [Casper] Casper Digest, Vol 18, Issue 10 Message-ID: <20080616120734.17419.qmail@thinkfixed.modwest.com> I will be out of the office from Friday June 6 and returning Thursday June 19. Please direct any and all correspondence to help at thinkfixed.com for a prompt reply to any needs. Thanks and have a great day. Matthew From Ben.Toms at greyeu.com Mon Jun 16 05:13:17 2008 From: Ben.Toms at greyeu.com (Toms, Ben (Grey Communications Group - IT)) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:13:17 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Quark 7 install issues In-Reply-To: <56E8BEC7C5726D419D72FDD88082DC6CBCE73A1E@exch-lon-be-01.weu.grey.global> References: <56E8BEC7C5726D419D72FDD88082DC6CBCE73A1E@exch-lon-be-01.weu.grey.global> Message-ID: <49127F1DF3F9AC4A84F2C082521BB4FD5142E1@exch-lon-be-01.weu.grey.global> Thanks Bill, I'll go through the terminal route later today or tomorrow. I'll let you know!! 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URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080616/b6fe29b8/attachment.htm From wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Jun 16 06:18:47 2008 From: wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Wylie Horn) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:18:47 +0100 Subject: [Casper] CS3 Strategies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm coming to this thread a bit late but hope to spare others some pain by contributing. Before I do that though I'd like to say that the Adobe CS3 installers and updaters have given me the most grief of any application I have encountered in over 14 years of system administration. First year Computer Science under-graduates wouldn't make some of the elementary mistakes in design that Adobe make. If I ever meet an Adobe executive I'll be requesting a week of my life back please! Like others I could only get this to work by removing all traces of existing Adobe installations prior to installing CS3. If there was any trace of CS2 or CS3 the installation attempts failed. Many parts of the suite use different updaters, with no consistency in the software used or the naming scheme. I could only get this to work by creating individual Casper packages of each update using Composer, then carefully considering where the dependencies between different installers lay and modifying 'Priority' accordingly. Finally I layered everything together in a CS3 config and deployed that. Why Adobe can't get with the 21st Century and create package installers for all these apps is beyond me. Adobe need to improve this in CS4 but I'm not holding my breath. Cheers, Wylie On 13 Jun 2008, at 20:30, Ernst, Craig S. wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Great responses, and I?ll add on my two cents for what it?s worth. > > We started our deployment using the standard Composer packaging > process, which took a few attempts to get it to work. JAMF at that > time hadn?t implemented the Adobe CS3 installer framework at this > point so you didn?t have much choice. As John Brenner mentions there > are differences in the Acrobat line of product from PPC and Intel. > Reader was particularly fun if you wanted to deploy that...if you > install Reader when CS3 is not present it installs totally different > from when you install Reader with CS3 present, and again two > separate packages for Intel and PPC. The canned large package worked > fine, but then you have to update that package as time goes. > Benefit, it tended to be a faster install with less failures. > > Enter the Adobe CS3 framework into the JSS. Sweet, I don?t have to > make a pack, I just upload a DMG and the DMG updaters. It?s too bad > Adobe pretty much sucked on their part of the deal, or are very > inconsistent. JAMF has done an excellent job of dealing with the > different types of setup.app different applications came with. So > now we use this method. And again, people have pretty much nailed > all the key points. If existing software is there it can flip out. > The fact that the software isn?t licensed at first run is a known > issue by Adobe, but from what I know they don?t intend to do > anything about it? And many of the updates we have do hang or never > end, particularly on some of the older iMac systems. I?ve been > trying to sort out which ones are more of a culprit, like flashlight > perhaps, amongst others. Yes, running Photoshop first is the best > option. > > The only thing beyond this that we?ve done is to better deal with > mixed suites of CS3, for example Design Premium and Web Standard for > example. I could be wrong here, but once you start mixing > serialization things tend to break. Let?s say you want to deploy CS3 > Premiere Pro later, with a different serialization. That may break > your previous installs. We purchased one set of the Adobe Master > Collection so we had two things: 1) A serialization number to use > everywhere that encompassed all applications so no conflicts 2) > access to download electronically the single DMG file of Master > Collection so all of the CS3 applications where in one JSS Adobe > Install. I?m not sure everyone gets access to the electronic > downloads, but if you do this don?t try to download it from the > page, don?t try to download it with their accelerator software on a > Windows machine...just use the directions for a regular ole FTP > client and wait. > > We still purchase Design Premium and Web Standard licenses that we > track usage for with KeyServer, and when I make the installer in > Casper Admin for Design Premium, naturally I only deploy the proper > components to comply. > > Since we started using that things have worked well, and the only > thing we have left plaguing us are getting the updates to not hang. > By the time that gets sorted out, if at all, Adobe Creative Suite 4 > will be out with the same issues I?m sure. > > Craig Ernst > Systems Management & Configuration > ---------------------------------- > University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire > Learning & Technology Services > 105 Garfield Ave > Eau Claire, WI 54701 > Phone: (715) 836-3639 > Fax: (715) 836-6001 > ---------------------------------- > ernstcs at uwec.edu > > > > On 6/13/08 6:11 AM, "Paul Austin" wrote: > > Hoping to tap the vast wealth of knowledge that is in this group.... > > My company has finally purchased CS3 and I am looking for the best > strategies for deployment as part of an initial configuration. I > have been testing for several days with mixed results. Using the CS3 > methods in Casper admin to create a deployment package seems to only > function part of the time. I end up delivering CS3 that wants the > License key on first run. (Note: I am using Design Premium and an > open license). The time it takes to deliver is also too long for my > liking. I have also been experimenting with delivering CS3 in a > policy after the initial image delivery. Results are also mixed. I > know I am late to the CS3 game, but how are you guys doing your > deployments? > > Thanks > > > Paul Austin > Wachovia > Information Technology > Enterprise Strategy and Design > 704-427-0903 > paul.austin at wachovia.com > > > : > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper ******************************************************* Wylie Horn Section Manager NSMS Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN Tel: +44 1865 283410 Mob: +44 7779 649 398 iChat: wylie.horn at mac.com Fax: +44 1865 273275 The NSMS web site: http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/nsms New Job Requests: nsmsjobs at oucs.ox.ac.uk General Discussion: nsms at oucs.ox.ac.uk From james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Jun 16 08:35:10 2008 From: james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk (James Partridge) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:35:10 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Local KDC and imaging Message-ID: <015466C5-C307-4731-B3BB-0818B7C4C6C4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> I was wondering what strategies, if any, people were following to deal with possible problems with the local KDC caused by imaging 10.5 Macs and binding them to a directory service. I have in mind the specific problem described at . Is anyone resetting the KDC with a post-flight script, for example? Thanks James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Partridge Systems Development & Support (Apple) Oxford University Computing Service 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN Tel.: (01865) 273207 iChat: james.partridge at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080616/5c8befe2/attachment-0001.html From jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk Tue Jun 17 01:44:42 2008 From: jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk (James Nairn) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:44:42 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Local KDC and imaging In-Reply-To: <015466C5-C307-4731-B3BB-0818B7C4C6C4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <015466C5-C307-4731-B3BB-0818B7C4C6C4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 16 Jun 2008, at 16:35, James Partridge wrote: > I was wondering what strategies, if any, people were following to > deal with possible problems with the local KDC caused by imaging > 10.5 Macs and binding them to a directory service. I have in mind > the specific problem described at TS1245>. Is anyone resetting the KDC with a post-flight script, for > example? > > Thanks > > James Hi James, I deleted the local KDC in the image and then use the /usr/libexec/ configureLocalKDC command to rebuild it as part of the post-imaging config... So far this seems to work! Cheers, James -- James Nairn mailto:jwrn3 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Systems Specialist University of Cambridge Computing Service Pembroke St, Cambridge, CB2 3QH Tel (01223 7)63486 From james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Jun 17 02:48:09 2008 From: james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk (James Partridge) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:48:09 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Local KDC and imaging: Feature Request In-Reply-To: <015466C5-C307-4731-B3BB-0818B7C4C6C4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <015466C5-C307-4731-B3BB-0818B7C4C6C4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <730A8EB1-6B10-44AC-8977-FA60828569A4@oucs.ox.ac.uk> On 16 Jun 2008, at 16:35, James Partridge wrote: > I was wondering what strategies, if any, people were following to > deal with possible problems with the local KDC caused by imaging > 10.5 Macs and binding them to a directory service. I have in mind > the specific problem described at TS1245>. Is anyone resetting the KDC with a post-flight script, for > example? Hmm, an almost deafening silence on this one. Well, I wonder if it would be a good feature to add in to Casper to reset the LKDC at image creation time and/or post-imaging. Just for clarification I discussed this issue with someone from Apple at WWDC last week and she pointed out the following: "[...] the binding to OD part is just one symptom of the problem -- ie, they end up with the same LKDC name, and this causes problems binding to OD. Even if you're not binding the machines to OD (or anything) you should do these steps, because if one computer is compromised, all computers made from the same image can be compromised since they all have the same certificate. Anyone with root access on one machine could use the cert to access other machines imaged from the same image that have LKDC-based services enabled." So given that this will affect any10.5.x image (and future OS releases I suspect) would a "Reset Local KDC" option up there alongside "Fix ByHost Files" etc. be a good idea? Apologies if this is already in hand or I've overlooked it somewhere. Cheers James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Partridge Systems Development & Support (Apple) Oxford University Computing Service 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN Tel.: (01865) 273207 iChat: james.partridge at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/15df3140/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 06:37:24 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:37:24 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Local KDC and imaging: Feature Request Message-ID: Not sure if this will help, but when I was building preaction and post action scripts for my images I ran into some bash code that I found useful. You can have it grab the computer name from the computer it is currently imaging. This works out if you have already imaged and named it beforehand, if your OD keeps track of computer names when binding to the ODM. an example would be scutil --get ComputerName, so you could put that command into a variable like compname="scutil --get ComputerName" then just call the $compname in the script. I found it off of either AFP548.com or Macenterprise.org, can't remember but it was definitely on one of those sites. Of course this only works if you have already named the computer. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> James Partridge 06/17/08 4:48 AM >>> On 16 Jun 2008, at 16:35, James Partridge wrote: > I was wondering what strategies, if any, people were following to > deal with possible problems with the local KDC caused by imaging > 10.5 Macs and binding them to a directory service. I have in mind > the specific problem described at TS1245>. Is anyone resetting the KDC with a post-flight script, for > example? Hmm, an almost deafening silence on this one. Well, I wonder if it would be a good feature to add in to Casper to reset the LKDC at image creation time and/or post-imaging. Just for clarification I discussed this issue with someone from Apple at WWDC last week and she pointed out the following: "[...] the binding to OD part is just one symptom of the problem -- ie, they end up with the same LKDC name, and this causes problems binding to OD. Even if you're not binding the machines to OD (or anything) you should do these steps, because if one computer is compromised, all computers made from the same image can be compromised since they all have the same certificate. Anyone with root access on one machine could use the cert to access other machines imaged from the same image that have LKDC-based services enabled." So given that this will affect any10.5.x image (and future OS releases I suspect) would a "Reset Local KDC" option up there alongside "Fix ByHost Files" etc. be a good idea? Apologies if this is already in hand or I've overlooked it somewhere. Cheers James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Partridge Systems Development & Support (Apple) Oxford University Computing Service 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN Tel.: (01865) 273207 iChat: james.partridge at mac.com From cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Tue Jun 17 08:25:01 2008 From: cpb10 at cam.ac.uk (Clare Bartlet) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:25:01 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request Message-ID: I don't know if there is a better email address to send a Casper feature request to, but if I post it here then maybe others can say if they'd also be interested.... I would find it really useful if Casper Admin could do a reverse lookup on the JSS and list all the Macs that it knows about with a particular configuration - at the moment it's really tedious to get at this info. Any chance for this feature?? Clare -------------------------------------------- Clare Bartlet mailto:cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Support phone: +44 1223 334723 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/1a181f80/attachment.htm From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Tue Jun 17 08:54:48 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:54:48 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Clare, I think this is one of the most appropriate places to post feature ideas so people do get a chance to expand on it and refine it. You can email the support team directly if you'd like to as well, if you need that address let me know...didn't want to post it. You can get more information here: http://www.jamfsoftware.com/support/ In regards to your request I thinks its possible since it's querying autorun data, assuming you stored image time information in the JSS. The Casper Imaging Logs don't have any configuration chosen information in them, but I wish they did actually (feature request). Regardles, I'm wondering why you want to do this? If you explain what it is you need to do or why you want to do it "we" can help maybe give you a better solution or it would make more sense to JAMF to look at including it in a future release. Craig Ernst Systems Management & Configuration ---------------------------------- University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Learning & Technology Services 105 Garfield Ave Eau Claire, WI 54701 Phone: (715) 836-3639 Fax: (715) 836-6001 ---------------------------------- ernstcs at uwec.edu On 6/17/08 10:25 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: I don't know if there is a better email address to send a Casper feature request to, but if I post it here then maybe others can say if they'd also be interested.... I would find it really useful if Casper Admin could do a reverse lookup on the JSS and list all the Macs that it knows about with a particular configuration - at the moment it's really tedious to get at this info. Any chance for this feature?? Clare -------------------------------------------- Clare Bartlet mailto:cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Support phone: +44 1223 334723 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/a78d8253/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 09:01:06 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:01:06 -0500 Subject: [Casper] binary question Message-ID: If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the /usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 From chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us Tue Jun 17 09:04:31 2008 From: chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us (Chad Brewer) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:04:31 -0700 Subject: [Casper] binary question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Isn't this what the Recon QuickAdd package is for? Open Recon and click on QuickAdd Package. This lets you enter your authentication credentials and creates a package for you. Chad "Thomas Larkin" on June 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM -0700 wrote: >If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server >settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything >Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest >binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. > >Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the >/usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? > >Thanks, > >Thomas Larkin >TIS Department >KCKPS USD500 >tlarki at kckps.org >cell: 913-449-7589 >office: 913-627-0351 >_______________________________________________ >Casper mailing list >Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/beea312a/attachment.htm From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Tue Jun 17 09:04:33 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Casper] binary question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tom, You are licensed for the Recon piece of the Casper suite I assume? Craig On 6/17/08 11:01 AM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the /usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/48c3e76b/attachment.html From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Tue Jun 17 09:06:59 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:06:59 -0500 Subject: [Casper] binary question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yup, wanted to see if he was licensed with Recon. On 6/17/08 11:04 AM, "Chad Brewer" wrote: Isn't this what the Recon QuickAdd package is for? Open Recon and click on QuickAdd Package. This lets you enter your authentication credentials and creates a package for you. Chad "Thomas Larkin" on June 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM -0700 wrote: If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the /usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/b7377150/attachment.htm From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 09:07:03 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:07:03 -0500 Subject: [Casper] binary question Message-ID: Ah, OK, recon was the only place I hadn't looked yet. I will see what I can find. I have the quick add package but its old and it doesn't work on 10.5, so I need to update it. Thanks everyone, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/17/08 11:04 AM >>> Tom, You are licensed for the Recon piece of the Casper suite I assume? Craig On 6/17/08 11:01 AM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the /usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 09:10:18 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Casper] binary question Message-ID: Yeah I am licensed with recon, but to be honest I haven't ever really used the GUI application. I have always used the command line instead. Since our quick add was created for me I pushed that out via ARD Admin. So, I haven't had a real use for recon really. Oh well, you learn something new every day I guess. Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/17/08 11:06 AM >>> Yup, wanted to see if he was licensed with Recon. On 6/17/08 11:04 AM, "Chad Brewer" wrote: Isn't this what the Recon QuickAdd package is for? Open Recon and click on QuickAdd Package. This lets you enter your authentication credentials and creates a package for you. Chad "Thomas Larkin" on June 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM -0700 wrote: If I wanted to create a new installer package with all my server settings for the clients, how would I do so? When we set up everything Josh did it for us. I want to create a new package that has the newest binary for Leopard 10.5 and is set to our server running the JSS. Is there a package builder in composer or something that can create the /usr/sbin/jamf binary for me? Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Tue Jun 17 09:11:46 2008 From: cpb10 at cam.ac.uk (Clare Bartlet) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:11:46 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B9C5DAC-7ED6-4A27-90B0-1C28DA22022A@cam.ac.uk> On 17 Jun 2008, at 16:54, Ernst, Craig S. wrote: > Hi Clare, > > I think this is one of the most appropriate places to post feature > ideas so people do get a chance to expand on it and refine it. You > can email the support team directly if you?d like to as well, if you > need that address let me know...didn?t want to post it. You can get > more information here: > > http://www.jamfsoftware.com/support/ > > In regards to your request I thinks its possible since it?s querying > autorun data, assuming you stored image time information in the JSS. > The Casper Imaging Logs don?t have any configuration chosen > information in them, but I wish they did actually (feature request). > Regardles, I?m wondering why you want to do this? If you explain > what it is you need to do or why you want to do it ?we? can help > maybe give you a better solution or it would make more sense to JAMF > to look at including it in a future release. we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this Any ideas would be appreciated Clare -------------------------------------------- Clare Bartlet mailto:cpb10 at cam.ac.uk Macintosh Support phone: +44 1223 334723 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/d53848d2/attachment-0001.html From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 09:27:13 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:27:13 -0500 Subject: [Casper] hidden users in 10.5 Message-ID: I am using this command with the newest client and it isn't working. Any ideas? In fact no jamf commands seem to be working. However, if I log into the web end of the JSS the machine is checking into inventory. Trying to build this into the image. Any ideas? The only modification i did to your command was put the full path of /var with /private/var However, I think I just answered my own question. The local admin account I am using to create the image did not have a password set at all. Then I set a password and now the terminal commands are working. Where as before the blank password was not allowing the commands to work. I assume this is normal behavior? It is working once I put a password on that local admin account. So, this is just an FYI to anyone who runs into this. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Josh Holland 06/13/08 2:25 PM >>> Thomas, You could use the jamf command, which has a verb that rolls all the commands into one. ie: sudo jamf createAccount -username netadmin -realname "Network Administrator" -password p at 55w0rd -home /var/netadmin -shell "/bin/bash" -hiddenUser -admin This could be run as an @reboot script after imaging, or on your OS package by running it when building the OS (if you don't have the jamf binary on it, run it from a thumb drive or other parition). Please let us know if that helps. Thanks, Josh ...................................................................................................................................................................................... Joshua Holland | Sr. Systems Engineer | JAMF Software 1011 Washington Ave S. #350 Minneapolis MN 55415 Office (612) 605-6625 | Fax (612) 332-9054 | josh at jamfsoftware.com | http://www.jamfsoftware.com On 6/13/08 12:41 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Since we are migrating into 10.5 I want to set up a few local hidden user accounts. 1 for local administration by the IT staff and the other for all the casper stuff. Before I would just create the user, move it to a different directory, change and apply ownerships and modify paths in netinfo. Well, in 10.5 there is no longer any netinfo. How are you all doing this? here are the commands I am using, perhaps my syntax is off but I yield no errors when running it. sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME PrimaryGroupID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UniqueID 450 sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME UserShell /bin/bash sudo dscl . passwd /Users/$USERNAME $PASSWORD sudo dscl . append /Groups/admin GroupMembership $USERNAME sudo dscl . create /Users/$USERNAME NFSHomeDirectory /private/var/$USERNAME Any advice? I already edited the /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist to hide all users under UID 500 and that seems to work. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Tue Jun 17 11:23:27 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:23:27 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: <1B9C5DAC-7ED6-4A27-90B0-1C28DA22022A@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: I don't have an answer for this aside from querying against the MySQL database in MySQL Query Browser or command line. Sorry =( Craig On 6/17/08 11:11 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this Any ideas would be appreciated Clare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/a6e391e7/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Tue Jun 17 11:48:57 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:48:57 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request Message-ID: You could create a smart group and dump all your inventory in it that has a certain software version or what not, and then everyone not in the group isn't running the same software configuration. Unless you are actually talking about hardware configurations. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/17/08 1:23 PM >>> I don't have an answer for this aside from querying against the MySQL database in MySQL Query Browser or command line. Sorry =( Craig On 6/17/08 11:11 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this Any ideas would be appreciated Clare From enrique.silberg at yr.com Tue Jun 17 11:53:04 2008 From: enrique.silberg at yr.com (Enrique silberg) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:53:04 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ho about Logs Packages Installed By Casper/Policy Packages that have been installed using Casper or a Policy -- ricky From: "Ernst, Craig S." Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:23:27 -0400 To: Casper List Subject: Re: [Casper] Feature Request I don?t have an answer for this aside from querying against the MySQL database in MySQL Query Browser or command line. Sorry =( Craig On 6/17/08 11:11 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: > we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in > around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is > carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the > JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their > Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the > Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this > > Any ideas would be appreciated > Clare _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/97d37213/attachment.html From william.smith at merrillcorp.com Tue Jun 17 12:11:41 2008 From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:11:41 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: <1B9C5DAC-7ED6-4A27-90B0-1C28DA22022A@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6/17/08 11:11 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: > On 17 Jun 2008, at 16:54, Ernst, Craig S. wrote: > >> Hi Clare, >> >> I think this is one of the most appropriate places to post feature ideas so >> people do get a chance to expand on it and refine it. That's exactly why I post my requests here. > we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in > around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is > carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the > JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their > Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the > Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this This should work for you but not after the fact: Building on Enrique's suggestion... Use Composer to create a package that is named for your configuration. It can contain nothing. Add that package to your configuration so that it gets "installed" or at least the JSS will store a receipt that it was installed. In the JSS, view Logs --> Packages installed by the Casper Suite. Click the "Computers With" button. Hope this helps! -- bill William M. Smith, Technical Analyst MCS IT Merrill Communications, LLC (651) 632-1492 From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Tue Jun 17 12:14:28 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:14:28 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Since it's not built into the JSS aside from what's inside the database...make a script in the configs, maybe postflight, that logs to something like a website with the machine name and config name. Or the other package option that just came through. Many ways to do it... Craig On 6/17/08 1:23 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." wrote: I don't have an answer for this aside from querying against the MySQL database in MySQL Query Browser or command line. Sorry =( Craig On 6/17/08 11:11 AM, "Clare Bartlet" wrote: we have around 200 Macs that are configured using Casper. These Macs are in around 25 different, and often remote, locations. The imaging of these Macs is carried out by different people at each of these sites. We have rebuilt the JSS from scratch this time around. Once we have asked the sites to image their Macs I would like to be able to look at each configuration and see all the Macs that have picked up that config. I can't see how else to do this Any ideas would be appreciated Clare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080617/bf212700/attachment.html From Sean.Calderbank at bauer.co.uk Wed Jun 18 03:47:50 2008 From: Sean.Calderbank at bauer.co.uk (Sean.Calderbank at bauer.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:47:50 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Casper v the others Message-ID: Hello Casper Community, I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of Casper v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go with Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has already done this exercise in the Casper community. 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Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> 06/18/08 5:47 AM >>> Hello Casper Community, I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of Casper v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go with Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has already done this exercise in the Casper community. Are there any resources on the Web that I can access on this? Are there any tick box comparisons of what each product does against the others? Any help with this would save me a massive amount of legwork and I would be truly grateful! 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H Bauer Publishing Academic House 24-28 Oval Road London NW1 7DT Phone: +44 (0)20 7241 8000 Web: http://www.bauer.co.uk H Bauer Publishing is a Limited Partnership, registered in England at the above address. Registration no. 3328 From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com Wed Jun 18 07:06:45 2008 From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (Brenner, John) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Casper v the others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have rather extensively, there are two really big draw backs to FileWave and to understand that you need to understand how FileWave is designed. FileWave wants to take utter and complete control of every file on your workstation. This can be nice in the case where you wish to repair a singe file, but this adds to over head of FileWave. To track all of the files FW creates a database and compares the files on the computer with the files in the database. If these do not match it downloads a new copy and replaces it on the fly. Security is the other issue, since FileWave takes complete control there is no way to easily circumvent this in fact you need to start in a type of Safe mode to disable the FileWave client. When we looked at it for OS X it made no sense whatsoever,why add another layer of security and that much overhead when a product that uses open source, proven technology it available. On 6/18/08 8:28 AM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > The only thing I know about File Wave is that it also works on the > Windows sides of things. However, I have never used it. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> 06/18/08 5:47 AM >>> > Hello Casper Community, > > I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of > Casper > v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? > Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go > with > Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has > already done this exercise in the Casper community. Are there any > resources on the Web that I can access on this? Are there any tick box > comparisons of what each product does against the others? > > Any help with this would save me a massive amount of legwork and I would > > be truly grateful! > > Thanks > > Sean > > > > > ------------------------- Confidentiality Notice & Disclaimer > ----------------------------- > > This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is > addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without > subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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Registration no. 3328 > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 From jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us Wed Jun 18 07:25:34 2008 From: jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us (Jeff Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Casper v the others In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We used FileWave for 2-3 years in my previous school district. We were managing more than 500 G3s, G4s, G5s and Intel Macs in 5 buildings. FW was OK for its management features but we did have some issues with getting it to work the way we wanted it to work. I don't think we ever did have a truly accurate inventory. Last summer I switched to a smaller district (~350 Macs) and am the lone person in the IT department. I started using Casper out of necessity for having robust, easy-to-use management and information gathering tools. So far, it's been great and I feel like I am only using a fraction of Casper's features well. The user group and JAMF support have been very helpful. With the Casper Suite including Casper, CasperAdmin, Composer, Recon and the JSS, this is a far superior product to FW IMO. I have not used any of the other Mac management products mentioned. Jeff Glendale, WI Sean.Calderbank at bauer.co.uk on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 5:47 AM -0600 wrote: > >Hello Casper Community, > >I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of Casper >v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? >Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go with >Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has >already done this exercise in the Casper community. Are there any >resources on the Web that I can access on this? Are there any tick box >comparisons of what each product does against the others? > >Any help with this would save me a massive amount of legwork and I would >be truly grateful! > >Thanks > >Sean From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Wed Jun 18 07:29:35 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Casper v the others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sean, There are many things I am sure, but one of the most important things that I can attest to are the people behind the product. I know many of them both personally and professionally, and you can't get a more dedicated and personable group of people. So you have to sometimes look beyond the software product and know what's behind it as well. Not to mention this fine group of people on this list are awesome, too. =) I told JAMF that they should respond to this question because, out of anyone on this list, they probably have the most perception about their competitors, and I don't believe you'll get the sales pitchy answers about why they are better. I tried LANrev a few years back, but didn't really get very far with it. Many of the people on this might have used some of those products, but for several that may have been years ago, like me, and they may not have an accurate account of the products today. So be careful. Some of these products can do cross-platform (not sure if that's important to you), but sometimes that means sacrificing something somewhere. That might be quality, functionality/features, or support. JAMF has committed to the Mac platform and focused on doing it better than anyone else (my opinion). With the pending release of Version 6 I think there will be even more reason that JAMF comes out on top. Craig On 6/18/08 5:47 AM, "Sean.Calderbank at bauer.co.uk" wrote: Hello Casper Community, I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of Casper v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go with Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has already done this exercise in the Casper community. Are there any resources on the Web that I can access on this? Are there any tick box comparisons of what each product does against the others? Any help with this would save me a massive amount of legwork and I would be truly grateful! Thanks Sean ------------------------- Confidentiality Notice & Disclaimer ----------------------------- This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080618/40128dfe/attachment.html From eric.winkelhake at us-resources.com Wed Jun 18 07:45:20 2008 From: eric.winkelhake at us-resources.com (Eric Winkelhake) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Casper v the others In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Actually I used to be a Filewave admin. I wrote very detailed notes on the pros and cons of FileWave and Casper with a coworker of mine who now works for JAMF. I'll give him a call and see if I can get my hands on those. And regarding the understated Filewave has a "feature" called self healing which will envoke a replacement of anything that has changed. You may notice that this is also a "feature" of Casper however in Filewave it is active by default. -- Eric Winkelhake | Technology Services ? Mundocom | Re:Sources IT 35 West Wacker Drive, Suite 3000 | Chicago, IL 60601 Office: 312-220-1669 | Mobile: 312-519-5632 Email: Eric.Winkelhake at us-resources.com Open a Service Desk Ticket | Navigating IT | Training Now "Brenner, John" Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/18/08 09:06 AM To cc Subject Re: [Casper] Casper v the others I have rather extensively, there are two really big draw backs to FileWave and to understand that you need to understand how FileWave is designed. FileWave wants to take utter and complete control of every file on your workstation. This can be nice in the case where you wish to repair a singe file, but this adds to over head of FileWave. To track all of the files FW creates a database and compares the files on the computer with the files in the database. If these do not match it downloads a new copy and replaces it on the fly. Security is the other issue, since FileWave takes complete control there is no way to easily circumvent this in fact you need to start in a type of Safe mode to disable the FileWave client. When we looked at it for OS X it made no sense whatsoever,why add another layer of security and that much overhead when a product that uses open source, proven technology it available. On 6/18/08 8:28 AM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > The only thing I know about File Wave is that it also works on the > Windows sides of things. However, I have never used it. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> 06/18/08 5:47 AM >>> > Hello Casper Community, > > I have been asked to put a report together on the Pros and Cons of > Casper > v Filewave, LANrev, RADmind and LANDesk. Has anyone done such a thing? > Rather than spend months doing this when we will almost certainly go > with > Casper, I was wondering if I could get some ideas from people who has > already done this exercise in the Casper community. Are there any > resources on the Web that I can access on this? Are there any tick box > comparisons of what each product does against the others? > > Any help with this would save me a massive amount of legwork and I would > > be truly grateful! > > Thanks > > Sean > > > > > ------------------------- Confidentiality Notice & Disclaimer > ----------------------------- > > This document should only be read by those persons to whom it is > addressed and is not intended to be relied upon by any person without > subsequent written confirmation of its contents. 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It seems like the path that Firefox uses to store the plug- ins is: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/ xxxxxxxx.default/extensions/ [where: xxxxxxx = randomly generated alpha-numeric string] The fact that it is randomly generated for each user makes the mass deployment seemingly impossible. Thanks, Eric Anderson Director of Information Technology Archbishop Mitty High School From tlarki at kckps.org Wed Jun 18 11:12:26 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:12:26 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Firefox Plug-ins Message-ID: I just use composer and build a new package all together, configure and secure the add ons I want and take a final snap shot, then add in a pre install script to remove all previous settings of firefox rm -rf /Applications/FireFox.app rm -rf /Users/*/Application\ Support/Firefox Once those folders are removed you can deploy a nice new clean package. I did this last school and upgraded from firefox 1.x to firefox 2.x and it worked just fine. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Eric Anderson 06/18/08 1:01 PM >>> Does anyone know how to install plug-ins (Add-ons) for Firefox using Casper? It seems like the path that Firefox uses to store the plug- ins is: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/ xxxxxxxx.default/extensions/ [where: xxxxxxx = randomly generated alpha-numeric string] The fact that it is randomly generated for each user makes the mass deployment seemingly impossible. Thanks, Eric Anderson Director of Information Technology Archbishop Mitty High School _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Wed Jun 18 11:23:41 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Firefox Plug-ins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You also don't need to be stuck with the randomly generated profile name if you build the profile into your package and are filling user templates. In ~/Library/Application\ Support/FireFox you can edit the profile.ini and change the Path= to whatever you want so it's the same. So I'd use UWEC.default. Then I'd go into the profiles folder and rename the default one there to match. This way I now can predict what the path should be later when you want to add-on just an extension or what not. Must be doing Firefox 3? =) Craig On 6/18/08 1:12 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: I just use composer and build a new package all together, configure and secure the add ons I want and take a final snap shot, then add in a pre install script to remove all previous settings of firefox rm -rf /Applications/FireFox.app rm -rf /Users/*/Application\ Support/Firefox Once those folders are removed you can deploy a nice new clean package. I did this last school and upgraded from firefox 1.x to firefox 2.x and it worked just fine. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Eric Anderson 06/18/08 1:01 PM >>> Does anyone know how to install plug-ins (Add-ons) for Firefox using Casper? It seems like the path that Firefox uses to store the plug- ins is: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/ xxxxxxxx.default/extensions/ [where: xxxxxxx = randomly generated alpha-numeric string] The fact that it is randomly generated for each user makes the mass deployment seemingly impossible. Thanks, Eric Anderson Director of Information Technology Archbishop Mitty High School _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have tried but it never really seems to report back. > > > Rich Dagel > Senior Technology Specialist > > Landor Associates > 1001 Front Street > San Francisco, CA 94111 > United States > 415 365 3933 > http://www.landor.com > Rich.Dagel at landor.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080618/18c2dc38/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are there any tick box comparisons of what each product does > against the others? There are several things I could say about this. The first is that after evaluating and testing several management suites we came down strongly in favour of Casper ? so much so that we ended up giving JAMF a testimonial, as did our friends over in Cambridge (see for these and more). Our assessment was initially done from the point of view that we already had an established Altiris infrastructure in place for Windows management, and Altiris claimed to offer Mac management as well, so why should we get a separate solution. We also assessed other management software (e.g. LANDesk) that claimed cross-platform support. Very briefly, I ended up feeling strongly that the cross- platform management solutions were really Windows management products into which Mac management had been uncomfortably squeezed. Altiris was a case in point: although they claimed to support Macs, what I found was that the client they provided boiled down to a rather clumsy way to put Macs under Altiris "control", but without actually providing much useful functionality. Moreover, I had trouble finding anyone from Altiris who actually knew much about Macs, which wasn't a good sign. This, and other things like it, led me to the conclusion that it was more of a case of ticking the boxes ("yes, we support Macs / Linux") than actual management. The contrast with Casper couldn't be greater. The Casper team are Mac sysadmins and Mac users. The product is designed from the ground up to tackle Mac-specific management issues ? the kind of things that as Mac sysadmins we encounter all the time but that Windows sysadmins have no idea about. That was one of the things we liked from the outset: features that had clearly been added on the basis of experience, *not* because a product development team in a room decided they'd look good on a tick sheet on the company website. All you have to do is take a look at the Casper documentation and you'll see what I mean. It's page after page of "here's how you use Casper to deal with [insert problem] that you've been wracking your brains over for ever". I love it! As Craig said, the JAMF team themselves are friendly, dedicated and professional. It's a real pleasure after dealing with so many faceless software companies to come across a group who are so interested in how you use their software, and so quick to help when you run into trouble. Finally, my experience is that JAMF have a lot of goodwill within Apple, and the Casper Suite integrates well and plays nicely with Apple software. That's very important for us as we need to mix and match a bit depending on the specific environment we manage. HTH. Cheers James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Partridge Systems Development & Support (Apple) Oxford University Computing Service 13 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6NN Tel.: (01865) 273207 iChat: james.partridge at mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080619/40b52297/attachment.htm From paul.austin at wachovia.com Thu Jun 19 14:34:31 2008 From: paul.austin at wachovia.com (Paul Austin) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:34:31 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Juniper VPN Client Message-ID: Hey, Has anyone taken a crack at creating an install for the Juniper Client? Paul Austin Wachovia Information Technology Enterprise Strategy and Design 704-427-0903 paul.austin at wachovia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The naming convention always starts with the initials of the school or building and a dash e.g. DP- The smart group criteria is "anything like DP-" Normally this has worked fine, but for some reason now these new machines are not going into the smart group. They are in the inventory when I search DP- and they are reporting in to the JSS properly. Any suggestions? Database issue? Thank you! -Dusty- Dustin Dorey Technology Support Cluster Specialist ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan 14445 Diamond Path West Rosemount, MN 55068 (952) 423-7971 dustin.dorey at district196.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080620/4ad67a0d/attachment.html From tom.welch at venturethree.com Sat Jun 21 12:42:56 2008 From: tom.welch at venturethree.com (Tom Welch) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:42:56 +0100 Subject: [Casper] New computers not properly entering smart groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F52B7A8-263E-4127-B8EC-85A677E20968@venturethree.com> Hi Dustin Something I've noticed (although I don't think it will happen with the computer name) is the requirement to run a recon to gather all the computers details. I was having a problem where by smart groups for laptops and desktops didn't work as the model field was not populated at imaging. I'm guessing your post imaging is done by a "at reboot" script. Try adding a recon at the very begining of that script. You should be able to do it using the jamf command line tool but off the top of my head I can't remember. I'll have a look Monday if that helps. -- Many Thanks Tom Welch venturethree On 20 Jun 2008, at 19:05, "Dorey, Dustin" wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering if anyone had experienced computers not entering > into smart groups properly? > > For example we just received some new macbooks that we imaged with a > freshly built 10.5.3 base, the image went well and everything laid > down except for anything tied to a post image policy for that > building. We assign these policies based on smart groups, the > smart groups are generated based on computer name. The naming > convention always starts with the initials of the school or building > and a dash e.g. DP- > > The smart group criteria is ?anything like DP-? > > Normally this has worked fine, but for some reason now these new > machines are not going into the smart group. > > They are in the inventory when I search DP- and they are > reporting in to the JSS properly. > > Any suggestions? > > Database issue? > > > > Thank you! > > -Dusty- > > > > Dustin Dorey > > Technology Support Cluster Specialist > > ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan > > 14445 Diamond Path West > > Rosemount, MN 55068 > > (952) 423-7971 > > dustin.dorey at district196.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From nicometo.tim at mayo.edu Wed Jun 25 08:04:22 2008 From: nicometo.tim at mayo.edu (Tim Nicometo) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:04:22 -0500 Subject: [Casper] MPKG's Message-ID: Hello all, I feel as if I should know this, but admittedly, I do not... Is there a good method to follow for deploying MPKG?s? In particular, the new XML File Format Converter from Microsoft, or any of their other updaters? Part two of this, is what about installers that have EULA?s, or other parts of an installer interface that require user intervention? Thanks all... -- Tim Nicometo Mayo Clinic timn at mayo.edu (507) 255-3034 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080625/bacf5079/attachment.htm From eric.winkelhake at us-resources.com Wed Jun 25 08:54:23 2008 From: eric.winkelhake at us-resources.com (Eric Winkelhake) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:54:23 -0500 Subject: [Casper] MPKG's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I pretty much never push out packages just for those types of reasons. Just build a dmg and include the pref, all problems solved. -- Eric Winkelhake | Technology Services ? Mundocom | Re:Sources IT 35 West Wacker Drive, Suite 3000 | Chicago, IL 60601 Office: 312-220-1669 | Mobile: 312-519-5632 Email: Eric.Winkelhake at us-resources.com Open a Service Desk Ticket | Navigating IT | Training Now Tim Nicometo Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/25/08 10:06 AM To cc Subject [Casper] MPKG's Hello all, I feel as if I should know this, but admittedly, I do not... Is there a good method to follow for deploying MPKG?s? In particular, the new XML File Format Converter from Microsoft, or any of their other updaters? Part two of this, is what about installers that have EULA?s, or other parts of an installer interface that require user intervention? 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In particular, >the new XML File Format Converter from Microsoft, or any of their other >updaters? > >Part two of this, is what about installers that have EULA?s, or other >parts of an installer interface that require user intervention? > >Thanks all... >-- >Tim Nicometo >Mayo Clinic >[ fcp://@fc.bend.k12.or.us,%2318810066/Mailbox/timn at mayo.edu >]timn at mayo.edu >(507) 255-3034 > > > _______________________________________________ >Casper mailing list >Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080625/45e7b3f1/attachment.html From rharter at uwsp.edu Wed Jun 25 09:07:00 2008 From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0500 Subject: [Casper] MPKG's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I actually just deployed the new Office Converter using Microsoft's mpkg. I didn't use Casper as this was a one machine deal, but it was as simple as scp'ing the mpkg over the the machine, then ssh'ing into the box and using the installer command. The installer command has been invaluable, hooray to apple for making command line versions of most of their apps. Just run "sudo installer -pkg -target ", so my command becomes 'sudo installer -pkg Open\ XML\ File\ Format\ Converter\ 1.0.mpkg -target /' and everything works great. You can also add the '-verbose' option if you feel safer seeing more output. A few notes: This particular installer will quit all Office apps without prompting you when run from the command line, be sure you save everything first. Parts of the installer that require user intervention (i.e. EULA) are skipped, but make sure you run this as sudo if it needs root privileges. This has been working great for me, even wrote a script that will run this for any pkg's or mpkg's in the current directory to ease in deployment, but if you've got Casper, I would think that it would be more streamlined to just use composer and make a dmg package. Hope that helps, Ryan Harter UW - Stevens Point Workstation Developer 715.346.2716 Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu On Jun 25, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Tim Nicometo wrote: > Hello all, I feel as if I should know this, but admittedly, I do > not... > > Is there a good method to follow for deploying MPKG?s? In > particular, the new XML File Format Converter from Microsoft, or any > of their other updaters? > > Part two of this, is what about installers that have EULA?s, or > other parts of an installer interface that require user intervention? > > Thanks all... > -- > Tim Nicometo > Mayo Clinic > timn at mayo.edu > (507) 255-3034 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080625/71e1ace3/attachment.html From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Wed Jun 25 09:07:21 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Casper] MPKG's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tim, What Chad and Eric have stated I agree with. I attempted to use MPKGs, but they often won't work being pushed for various reasons. If you need to do other things like EULA supression, serialization, etc. then you are almost always better off building a DMG with Composer. That's what I've resorted to with Office 2008. I am able to use some of the additional bundled software MPKGs with like Final Cut Studio for additional audio content and motion content etc, but you need to make sure you check the logs if the MPKG fails to install...it may not appear to have failed up front, but check the logs. This was happening with the previous Office 2008 (service pack 1) 12.1.0 update that was an MPKG. I thought, great...I can push out the pre-made MPKG, but no such luck. Good luck! Craig On 6/25/08 10:04 AM, "Tim Nicometo" wrote: Hello all, I feel as if I should know this, but admittedly, I do not... Is there a good method to follow for deploying MPKG's? In particular, the new XML File Format Converter from Microsoft, or any of their other updaters? Part two of this, is what about installers that have EULA's, or other parts of an installer interface that require user intervention? Thanks all... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you receive this electronic mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this electronic mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the electronic mail from your system. From tlarki at kckps.org Wed Jun 25 13:01:51 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:01:51 -0500 Subject: [Casper] BASC and CompuTrace installers Message-ID: We use Computrace and we had a package built for us and it works. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Shawn Surma" 06/25/08 2:56 PM >>> Has anyone had any luck with creating a package for either of these programs? BASC is what our psychologists use for testing and CompuTrace is lojack for laptops. For some reason BASC will only install/update if the user is an admin. The CompuTrace installer needs to be installed either as root or using sudo, it is command line. I was wondering how it would deploy if I used composer to create the package. Thanks, Shawn Liverpool Central School District Computer Services Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 622-7150 This electronic mail, including any attachments, may contain highly sensitive and confidential information. It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you receive this electronic mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this electronic mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the electronic mail from your system. _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us Wed Jun 25 13:18:54 2008 From: Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us (Shawn Surma) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:18:54 -0400 Subject: [Casper] BASC and CompuTrace installers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Thomas Larkin" writes: >We use Computrace and we had a package built for us and it works. Who built your package? Casper, Computrace or internal. Thanks, Shawn Liverpool Central School District Computer Services Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 622-7150 This electronic mail, including any attachments, may contain highly sensitive and confidential information. It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you receive this electronic mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this electronic mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the electronic mail from your system. From tlarki at kckps.org Wed Jun 25 13:29:02 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Casper] BASC and CompuTrace installers Message-ID: Our Apple SE built the package, and it is a PKG file and I just embed it into the images. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Shawn Surma" 06/25/08 3:18 PM >>> "Thomas Larkin" writes: >We use Computrace and we had a package built for us and it works. Who built your package? Casper, Computrace or internal. Thanks, Shawn Liverpool Central School District Computer Services Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 622-7150 This electronic mail, including any attachments, may contain highly sensitive and confidential information. It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you receive this electronic mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this electronic mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the electronic mail from your system. From mahughe at kckps.org Wed Jun 25 13:32:09 2008 From: mahughe at kckps.org (Mark Hughes) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:32:09 -0500 Subject: [Casper] BASC and CompuTrace installers Message-ID: I would think it should deploy thru Casper w/o issue. I have installed it using ARD to the local admin acct. Mark Hughes, Apple Technician TIS Department, KCKPS USD500 Cell 913-449-7791 mahughe at kckps.org >>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/25/08 3:29 PM >>> Our Apple SE built the package, and it is a PKG file and I just embed it into the images. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Shawn Surma" 06/25/08 3:18 PM >>> "Thomas Larkin" writes: >We use Computrace and we had a package built for us and it works. Who built your package? Casper, Computrace or internal. Thanks, Shawn Liverpool Central School District Computer Services Liverpool, NY 13090 (315) 622-7150 This electronic mail, including any attachments, may contain highly sensitive and confidential information. It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you receive this electronic mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this electronic mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete the electronic mail from your system. _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From kgatling at mph.net Thu Jun 26 15:23:44 2008 From: kgatling at mph.net (Keith E Gatling) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:23:44 -0400 Subject: [Casper] License Information Not Traveling to Images Message-ID: Hi, we're relatively new to this whole imaging thing, our Jump Start ended yesterday, and we've run into a problem that looks like it's bound to repeat itself with other software. We're running Graphic Converter under a site license. In the old days, when we simply clones machines using Carbon Copy Cloner or something similar, all of the licensing information got properly copied over to each machine. But for some reason, after packaged and deployed Graphic Converter using Casper this afternoon, all of the target machines asked for the license code. The same thing happened with EazyDraw Pro. Is there some trick to getting this to work properly, like some file we have to push out with the application? Thanks! -- keg * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Keith E Gatling - Computer Instructor Manlius Pebble Hill School 5300 Jamesville Rd DeWitt, NY 13214 315.446.2452 http://www.gatling.us/keith Some teachers teach subjects. Others teach people. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080626/b758ff47/attachment.htm From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com Fri Jun 27 05:52:16 2008 From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US)) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:52:16 -0400 Subject: [Casper] License Information Not Traveling to Images Message-ID: The answer will be different for each application. In most cases, there is a file or files that need to be placed in the appropriate locations. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer first and explaining that you have a site license and are trying to do an enterprise deployment. I've found most manufacturers to be helpful in this regard. If the manufacturer can't or won't help, you can build a "new and modified" package and examine the package contents for likely candidates. Some software puts the license flies in poor places, such as ~/Library or /Users/Shared. With stubborn titles from smaller manufacturers, I've been able to negotiate for "cracked" copies where the vendor sends a copy of the app that has its licensing system disabled. ----- Miles Leacy ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA Senior Mac Technologist Polo Ralph Lauren 212.318.7603 miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com ----- Original Message ----- From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com To: Casper List Sent: Thu Jun 26 18:23:44 2008 Subject: [Casper] License Information Not Traveling to Images Hi, we're relatively new to this whole imaging thing, our Jump Start ended yesterday, and we've run into a problem that looks like it's bound to repeat itself with other software. We're running Graphic Converter under a site license. In the old days, when we simply clones machines using Carbon Copy Cloner or something similar, all of the licensing information got properly copied over to each machine. But for some reason, after packaged and deployed Graphic Converter using Casper this afternoon, all of the target machines asked for the license code. The same thing happened with EazyDraw Pro. Is there some trick to getting this to work properly, like some file we have to push out with the application? Thanks! -- keg * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Keith E Gatling - Computer Instructor Manlius Pebble Hill School 5300 Jamesville Rd DeWitt, NY 13214 315.446.2452 http://www.gatling.us/keith Some teachers teach subjects. Others teach people. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 10:14:36 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:14:36 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868CE2B02000039000000A6@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web based one. So, I must add boot camp, add win xp, add sys prep and the Novell client, and all that stuff. Can I just take an OS snap shot of Windows with composer? has anyone used casper to deploy dual booting images? I would rather not do this but i don't think I have a choice and it is a high priority project so I will be focusing all my time on it. In the past I have done this with Bombich's software and some of his scripts and successfully deployed a dual booting iMac lab. However, due to these all being laptops I need to maintain security on them. Opening up the firmware is not really an option for me. I could use some feed back, and a glass of whiskey. Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 From william.smith at merrillcorp.com Mon Jun 30 10:23:51 2008 From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:23:51 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: <4868CE2B02000039000000A6@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Message-ID: On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks > for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our > users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the > software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs > for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web > based one. Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know not every Windows application works but if it does work for your application then it means less overhead. -- bill William M. Smith, Technical Analyst MCS IT Merrill Communications, LLC (651) 632-1492 From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 10:34:58 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:34:58 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868D2F102000039000000B2@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via virtual box. We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate the database to another technology. The developer says they promise a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever it takes to get this software to work. This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both sides since our students take their machines home, and because the FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. This will be a project indeed. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 PM >>> On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks > for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our > users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the > software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs > for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web > based one. Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know not every Windows application works but if it does work for your application then it means less overhead. -- bill William M. Smith, Technical Analyst MCS IT Merrill Communications, LLC (651) 632-1492 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 10:45:37 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:45:37 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868D57002000039000000B7@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Guess I should clarify.... The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load windows clients on the macs... Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via virtual box. We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate the database to another technology. The developer says they promise a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever it takes to get this software to work. This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both sides since our students take their machines home, and because the FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. This will be a project indeed. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 PM >>> On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks > for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our > users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the > software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs > for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web > based one. Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know not every Windows application works but if it does work for your application then it means less overhead. -- bill William M. Smith, Technical Analyst MCS IT Merrill Communications, LLC (651) 632-1492 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com Mon Jun 30 11:57:35 2008 From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (Brenner, John) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:57:35 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: <4868D57002000039000000B7@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Message-ID: Ick is terminal server a possibility? How many concurrent users? It may end up being a wash cost wise and be a heck of a lot easier.... On 6/30/08 12:45 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The windows > version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load windows clients on the > macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is based on older > PPC and classic architecture and while it does in fact run under Rosetta when > it writes results to their database it corrupts it. This is a problem > particular to OS X so I think that using a PPC emulator or even an API like > crossover or perhaps even a virtual machine will all be moot. We have > unlimited windows 98 client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right > now via virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate the database > to another technology. The developer says they promise a web based product by > 2009, but what does that mean? All it means to me is that this next school > year I will be forced to do whatever it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of our one > year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the boot camp > beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop environment is a bit > different. After I get everything up and running I got to make sure the > machine is still locked down on both sides since our students take their > machines home, and because the FCC and CIPA require us to filter their > Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our >> Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your application > then it means less overhead. John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 From RIVERAR at email.chop.edu Mon Jun 30 11:58:33 2008 From: RIVERAR at email.chop.edu (Raymond Rivera) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:58:33 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Casper Digest, Vol 18, Issue 19 Message-ID: I will answer all email on my return Monday July 7, 2008. From tom.welch at venturethree.com Mon Jun 30 12:01:09 2008 From: tom.welch at venturethree.com (Tom Welch) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:01:09 +0100 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: <4868D57002000039000000B7@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> References: <4868D57002000039000000B7@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Message-ID: <91875E6F-8BA8-46E4-B769-9EEEB500A6AF@venturethree.com> Hi Thomas Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your developer is paying :p I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked into it. Good luck! -- Many Thanks Tom Welch On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load > windows clients on the macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via > virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever > it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>> PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >> our Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >> that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >> So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >> the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >> to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know > not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your > application > then it means less overhead. > > -- > > bill > > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst > MCS IT > Merrill Communications, LLC > (651) 632-1492 > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 12:03:16 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868E7A302000039000000C4@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> We had a Citrix expert out here and he said maximum we could have 100 clients running terminal services to their macs, and well we test from anywhere from 100 to 500 at any given time per a building and there are 5 high schools total. Our infrastructure would collapse upon itself and create a vortex if we tired to do that many clients. The only tested method we know for sure that works is Windows. My boss said he has to have it working, which means I have to have it working. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Brenner, John" 06/30/08 1:58 PM >>> Ick is terminal server a possibility? How many concurrent users? It may end up being a wash cost wise and be a heck of a lot easier.... On 6/30/08 12:45 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The windows > version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load windows clients on the > macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is based on older > PPC and classic architecture and while it does in fact run under Rosetta when > it writes results to their database it corrupts it. This is a problem > particular to OS X so I think that using a PPC emulator or even an API like > crossover or perhaps even a virtual machine will all be moot. We have > unlimited windows 98 client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right > now via virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate the database > to another technology. The developer says they promise a web based product by > 2009, but what does that mean? All it means to me is that this next school > year I will be forced to do whatever it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of our one > year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the boot camp > beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop environment is a bit > different. After I get everything up and running I got to make sure the > machine is still locked down on both sides since our students take their > machines home, and because the FCC and CIPA require us to filter their > Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our >> Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your application > then it means less overhead. John Brenner | Merrill Corporation | IOG IT | 651-632-4072 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 12:07:21 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:07:21 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868E89802000039000000C9@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 year least of windows xp professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> Hi Thomas Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your developer is paying :p I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked into it. Good luck! -- Many Thanks Tom Welch On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load > windows clients on the macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via > virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever > it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>> PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >> our Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >> that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >> So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >> the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >> to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know > not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your > application > then it means less overhead. > > -- > > bill > > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst > MCS IT > Merrill Communications, LLC > (651) 632-1492 > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Mon Jun 30 12:20:16 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:20:16 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: <4868E89802000039000000C9@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Message-ID: Pay them what you would for Microsoft, Parallels or Citrix licenses to make a working Mac product. =) And was the Citrix expert actually someone from Citrix? I find it hard to believe the advice you were given about that product, but I wouldn't be surprised on the price you may have been quoted for it. Microsoft also has things up their sleeve related to Terminal Services I think. Maintaining dual-boot is probably what you should do as a last resort in my opinion. For the added cost I would do Parallels if you don't need to leverage the native power of the hardware. Managing that many more clients and keeping them secure and up-to-date. I'd think you'd want a single point of update if possible instead of doubling the client base. We're still working on our dual boot environment because of some really SIMPLE tools an enterprise needs to properly maintain it. Like booting from Windows to Mac via a command line interface so you can script it or schedule it. (and if anyone has a solution for that I'm all eyes) There are lots of other good tools out there for cloning and what not. Craig On 6/30/08 2:07 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 year least of windows xp professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> Hi Thomas Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your developer is paying :p I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked into it. Good luck! -- Many Thanks Tom Welch On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load > windows clients on the macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via > virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever > it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>> PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >> our Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >> that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >> So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >> the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >> to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know > not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your > application > then it means less overhead. > > -- > > bill > > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst > MCS IT > Merrill Communications, LLC > (651) 632-1492 > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080630/e60484e6/attachment-0001.html From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 12:37:02 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:37:02 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868EF8D02000039000000E6@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> They already gave us a huge discount and my boss said keep it and put it towards your web based product. I would love to deploy virtual machines but I am not in charge of money nor paying for things, and we don't know if a virtual machine will work. We do know 100% that windows will work. thanks for your guys input Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/30/08 2:21 PM >>> Pay them what you would for Microsoft, Parallels or Citrix licenses to make a working Mac product. =) And was the Citrix expert actually someone from Citrix? I find it hard to believe the advice you were given about that product, but I wouldn't be surprised on the price you may have been quoted for it. Microsoft also has things up their sleeve related to Terminal Services I think. Maintaining dual-boot is probably what you should do as a last resort in my opinion. For the added cost I would do Parallels if you don't need to leverage the native power of the hardware. Managing that many more clients and keeping them secure and up-to-date. I'd think you'd want a single point of update if possible instead of doubling the client base. We're still working on our dual boot environment because of some really SIMPLE tools an enterprise needs to properly maintain it. Like booting from Windows to Mac via a command line interface so you can script it or schedule it. (and if anyone has a solution for that I'm all eyes) There are lots of other good tools out there for cloning and what not. Craig On 6/30/08 2:07 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 year least of windows xp professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> Hi Thomas Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your developer is paying :p I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked into it. Good luck! -- Many Thanks Tom Welch On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load > windows clients on the macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via > virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever > it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>> PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >> our Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >> that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >> So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >> the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >> to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know > not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your > application > then it means less overhead. > > -- > > bill > > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst > MCS IT > Merrill Communications, LLC > (651) 632-1492 > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu Mon Jun 30 12:39:17 2008 From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:39:17 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: <4868EF8D02000039000000E6@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> Message-ID: That was going to be another suggestion, if they do a web based product so again there's only one point of update and more likely easier to make cross-platform, aside from the server it's hosted on. Good Luck, Tom! Craig On 6/30/08 2:37 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: They already gave us a huge discount and my boss said keep it and put it towards your web based product. I would love to deploy virtual machines but I am not in charge of money nor paying for things, and we don't know if a virtual machine will work. We do know 100% that windows will work. thanks for your guys input Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/30/08 2:21 PM >>> Pay them what you would for Microsoft, Parallels or Citrix licenses to make a working Mac product. =) And was the Citrix expert actually someone from Citrix? I find it hard to believe the advice you were given about that product, but I wouldn't be surprised on the price you may have been quoted for it. Microsoft also has things up their sleeve related to Terminal Services I think. Maintaining dual-boot is probably what you should do as a last resort in my opinion. For the added cost I would do Parallels if you don't need to leverage the native power of the hardware. Managing that many more clients and keeping them secure and up-to-date. I'd think you'd want a single point of update if possible instead of doubling the client base. We're still working on our dual boot environment because of some really SIMPLE tools an enterprise needs to properly maintain it. Like booting from Windows to Mac via a command line interface so you can script it or schedule it. (and if anyone has a solution for that I'm all eyes) There are lots of other good tools out there for cloning and what not. Craig On 6/30/08 2:07 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 year least of windows xp professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> Hi Thomas Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your developer is paying :p I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked into it. Good luck! -- Many Thanks Tom Welch On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > Guess I should clarify.... > > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load > windows clients on the macs... > > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via > virtual box. > > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever > it takes to get this software to work. > > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. > > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. > > This will be a project indeed. > > Thomas Larkin > TIS Department > KCKPS USD500 > tlarki at kckps.org > cell: 913-449-7589 > office: 913-627-0351 >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>> PM >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >> our Macbooks >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >> that our >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >> So, the >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >> the costs >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >> to a web >> based one. > > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know > not > every Windows application works but if it does work for your > application > then it means less overhead. > > -- > > bill > > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst > MCS IT > Merrill Communications, LLC > (651) 632-1492 > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper > > _______________________________________________ > Casper mailing list > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080630/5d488d69/attachment.htm From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com Mon Jun 30 12:46:11 2008 From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:46:11 -0400 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: FYI ? I run roughly 250 Mac clients with line of business apps over Citrix every day. The end users? only complaints are that they have to use buggy Windows apps. The apps work as well as they would on a Windows box. I would be sure to hound the vendor and make sure they understand that ?web based? means ?based on open standards?. Too often in corporate situations, I?ve been promised a ?web based? tool, only to find out that it requires IE, Active X, or some other MS proprietary and therefore Windows-only technology. Good luck. On 6/30/08 3:39 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." wrote: > That was going to be another suggestion, if they do a web based product so > again there?s only one point of update and more likely easier to make > cross-platform, aside from the server it?s hosted on. > > Good Luck, Tom! > > Craig > > > On 6/30/08 2:37 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> They already gave us a huge discount and my boss said keep it and put it >> towards your web based product. I would love to deploy virtual machines but >> I am not in charge of money nor paying for things, and we don't know if a >> virtual machine will work. We do know 100% that windows will work. >> >> thanks for your guys input >> >> Thomas Larkin >> TIS Department >> KCKPS USD500 >> tlarki at kckps.org >> cell: 913-449-7589 >> office: 913-627-0351 >>>>> >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/30/08 2:21 PM >>> >> Pay them what you would for Microsoft, Parallels or Citrix licenses to make a >> working Mac product. =) >> >> And was the Citrix expert actually someone from Citrix? I find it hard to >> believe the advice you were given about that product, but I wouldn't be >> surprised on the price you may have been quoted for it. Microsoft also has >> things up their sleeve related to Terminal Services I think. >> >> Maintaining dual-boot is probably what you should do as a last resort in my >> opinion. For the added cost I would do Parallels if you don't need to >> leverage the native power of the hardware. Managing that many more clients >> and keeping them secure and up-to-date. I'd think you'd want a single point >> of update if possible instead of doubling the client base. >> >> We're still working on our dual boot environment because of some really >> SIMPLE tools an enterprise needs to properly maintain it. Like booting from >> Windows to Mac via a command line interface so you can script it or schedule >> it. (and if anyone has a solution for that I'm all eyes) There are lots of >> other good tools out there for cloning and what not. >> >> Craig >> >> On 6/30/08 2:07 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >> >> Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that >> many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 year least of windows xp >> professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just >> straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on >> windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. >> >> I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them >> again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this >> and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of >> this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. >> >> Thomas Larkin >> TIS Department >> KCKPS USD500 >> tlarki at kckps.org >> cell: 913-449-7589 >> office: 913-627-0351 >>>>> >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> >> Hi Thomas >> >> Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra >> cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could >> either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing >> towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your >> developer is paying :p >> >> I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy >> bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked >> into it. >> >> Good luck! >> -- >> Many Thanks >> Tom Welch >> >> On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >> >>> > Guess I should clarify.... >>> > >>> > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The >>> > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load >>> > windows clients on the macs... >>> > >>> > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. >>> > >>> > Thomas Larkin >>> > TIS Department >>> > KCKPS USD500 >>> > tlarki at kckps.org >>> > cell: 913-449-7589 >>> > office: 913-627-0351 >>>>>> >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is >>> > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in >>> > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it >>> > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that >>> > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a >>> > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 >>> > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via >>> > virtual box. >>> > >>> > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate >>> > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise >>> > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means >>> > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever >>> > it takes to get this software to work. >>> > >>> > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of >>> > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. >>> > >>> > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the >>> > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop >>> > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and >>> > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both >>> > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the >>> > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. >>> > >>> > This will be a project indeed. >>> > >>> > Thomas Larkin >>> > TIS Department >>> > KCKPS USD500 >>> > tlarki at kckps.org >>> > cell: 913-449-7589 >>> > office: 913-627-0351 >>>>>> >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>>>> >>>> PM >>> >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >>> > >>>> >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >>>> >> our Macbooks >>>> >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >>>> >> that our >>>> >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >>>> >> So, the >>>> >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >>>> >> the costs >>>> >> for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product >>>> >> to a web >>>> >> based one. >>> > >>> > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know >>> > not >>> > every Windows application works but if it does work for your >>> > application >>> > then it means less overhead. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > bill >>> > >>> > William M. Smith, Technical Analyst >>> > MCS IT >>> > Merrill Communications, LLC >>> > (651) 632-1492 >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Casper mailing list >>> > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >>> > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Casper mailing list >>> > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >>> > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Casper mailing list >>> > Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >>> > http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Casper mailing list >> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Casper mailing list >> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com >> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper >> >> -- >> Miles Leacy >> Senior Mac Technologist >> ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA >> Polo Ralph Lauren >> 212-318-7603 >> miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com >> >> This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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It's worked pretty well when the volumes sizes are large enough and the hardware is similar. Slow, too. We usually do both the Mac and WinXp side at the same time, but I suppose you could do just a Window partition since it can resize the volume on non-destructively now. I don't know how it would work with OpenFirmware locked since we don't do that. Nathaniel Lindley ++++++++++++++++++ Learning Systems Specialist Educational Technology Saint Paul Public Schools Saint Paul, Minnesota nathaniel.lindley at spps.org phone: 651-603-4929 "Thomas Larkin" Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/30/2008 12:14 PM To cc Subject [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web based one. So, I must add boot camp, add win xp, add sys prep and the Novell client, and all that stuff. Can I just take an OS snap shot of Windows with composer? has anyone used casper to deploy dual booting images? I would rather not do this but i don't think I have a choice and it is a high priority project so I will be focusing all my time on it. In the past I have done this with Bombich's software and some of his scripts and successfully deployed a dual booting iMac lab. However, due to these all being laptops I need to maintain security on them. Opening up the firmware is not really an option for me. I could use some feed back, and a glass of whiskey. Thanks, Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 _______________________________________________ Casper mailing list Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.jamfsoftware.com/pipermail/casper/attachments/20080630/aea2dffc/attachment.html From tlarki at kckps.org Mon Jun 30 12:58:20 2008 From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:58:20 -0500 Subject: [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Message-ID: <4868F48B02000039000000ED@NGW-001.KCKPS.K12.KS.US> HAHAHA, oh yeah we made sure that web based meant safari, firefox, mozilla, IE, netscape, opera, etc. Our servers that run Citrix (we only run one server with Citrix for one department) is rather old, and there is no way it could handle the 6,000 clients, with anywhere from 300 to 500 per a building testing at one time. so that would be 1,500 to 2,500 district wide. I think we would have to buy a lot of hardware to accomplish that and that is just not an option. I will admit my experience with Citrix personally is very limited. Oh well, I think I am just going to boot camp it now to be safe. They claim in December their product will be ready, but well we all know what promises are from developers. Thanks for the input. I would think that the casper client will image anything that is in dmg format, so I will give it a whirl. Then for post imaging config I will just run sys prep on the XP client side. I have imaged countless windows machines so its nothing new to me. Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> "Leacy, Miles" 06/30/08 2:47 PM >>> FYI - I run roughly 250 Mac clients with line of business apps over Citrix every day. The end users? only complaints are that they have to use buggy Windows apps. The apps work as well as they would on a Windows box. I would be sure to hound the vendor and make sure they understand that ?web based? means ?based on open standards?. Too often in corporate situations, I?ve been promised a ?web based? tool, only to find out that it requires IE, Active X, or some other MS proprietary and therefore Windows-only technology. Good luck. On 6/30/08 3:39 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." wrote: > That was going to be another suggestion, if they do a web based product so > again there?s only one point of update and more likely easier to make > cross-platform, aside from the server it?s hosted on. > > Good Luck, Tom! > > Craig > > > On 6/30/08 2:37 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: > >> They already gave us a huge discount and my boss said keep it and put it >> towards your web based product. I would love to deploy virtual machines but >> I am not in charge of money nor paying for things, and we don't know if a >> virtual machine will work. We do know 100% that windows will work. >> >> thanks for your guys input >> >> Thomas Larkin >> TIS Department >> KCKPS USD500 >> tlarki at kckps.org >> cell: 913-449-7589 >> office: 913-627-0351 >>>>> >>> "Ernst, Craig S." 06/30/08 2:21 PM >>> >> Pay them what you would for Microsoft, Parallels or Citrix licenses to make a >> working Mac product. =) >> >> And was the Citrix expert actually someone from Citrix? I find it hard to >> believe the advice you were given about that product, but I wouldn't be >> surprised on the price you may have been quoted for it. Microsoft also has >> things up their sleeve related to Terminal Services I think. >> >> Maintaining dual-boot is probably what you should do as a last resort in my >> opinion. For the added cost I would do Parallels if you don't need to >> leverage the native power of the hardware. Managing that many more clients >> and keeping them secure and up-to-date. I'd think you'd want a single point >> of update if possible instead of doubling the client base. >> >> We're still working on our dual boot environment because of some really >> SIMPLE tools an enterprise needs to properly maintain it. Like booting from >> Windows to Mac via a command line interface so you can script it or schedule >> it. (and if anyone has a solution for that I'm all eyes) There are lots of >> other good tools out there for cloning and what not. >> >> Craig >> >> On 6/30/08 2:07 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >> >> Ironically, Virtual machine licenses like Parallels of VMware Fusion for that >> many clients is actually more expensive than a 1 >> professional. The developer is willing to pick up most of the tab if we just >> straight run windows. Plus they can only guarantee us that it runs on >> windows, since it has never been heavily tested in virtual environments. >> >> I have used Bombich's tools in the past, and I guess I could just use them >> again to deploy a dual booting image. I have about a month to complete this >> and get it rolled out to 6,000 machines. So, basically I have the rest of >> this week to get it working because next week we start mass imaging. >> >> Thomas Larkin >> TIS Department >> KCKPS USD500 >> tlarki at kckps.org >> cell: 913-449-7589 >> office: 913-627-0351 >>>>> >>> Tom Welch 06/30/08 2:03 PM >>> >> Hi Thomas >> >> Could you possibly look at using parallels? I know there is an extra >> cost but it would be very easy to push out with Casper. Then you could >> either deploy the virtual hd image or a virtual cd image pointing >> towards a ghost server to image the virtual machine. And if your >> developer is paying :p >> >> I also think you might be able to use apple's net install to deploy >> bootcamp. But it might just be the partition. I've not fully looked >> into it. >> >> Good luck! >> -- >> Many Thanks >> Tom Welch >> >> On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:45, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >> >>> > Guess I should clarify.... >>> > >>> > The old mac version corrupts the database files on intel macs. The >>> > windows version works with out a hitch, hence the need to load >>> > windows clients on the macs... >>> > >>> > Sorry Should have pointed that out to begin with. >>> > >>> > Thomas Larkin >>> > TIS Department >>> > KCKPS USD500 >>> > tlarki at kckps.org >>> > cell: 913-449-7589 >>> > office: 913-627-0351 >>>>>> >>>> "Thomas Larkin" 06/30/08 12:36 PM >>> >>> > The problem is with this software to my knowledge is that it is >>> > based on older PPC and classic architecture and while it does in >>> > fact run under Rosetta when it writes results to their database it >>> > corrupts it. This is a problem particular to OS X so I think that >>> > using a PPC emulator or even an API like crossover or perhaps even a >>> > virtual machine will all be moot. We have unlimited windows 98 >>> > client and I am installing a virtual machine of it right now via >>> > virtual box. >>> > >>> > We can't pick up a new product because there is no way to migrate >>> > the database to another technology. The developer says they promise >>> > a web based product by 2009, but what does that mean? All it means >>> > to me is that this next school year I will be forced to do whatever >>> > it takes to get this software to work. >>> > >>> > This is a known issue and is why the developer offered to pay 90% of >>> > our one year lease costs of WinXP Pro on 6,000 clients. >>> > >>> > I have done this before in iMac labs with Bombich's software and the >>> > boot camp beta, and it all worked. However, the 1:1 laptop >>> > environment is a bit different. After I get everything up and >>> > running I got to make sure the machine is still locked down on both >>> > sides since our students take their machines home, and because the >>> > FCC and CIPA require us to filter their Internet surfing. >>> > >>> > This will be a project indeed. >>> > >>> > Thomas Larkin >>> > TIS Department >>> > KCKPS USD500 >>> > tlarki at kckps.org >>> > cell: 913-449-7589 >>> > office: 913-627-0351 >>>>>> >>>> "Smith, William" 06/30/08 12:24 >>>>>> >>>> PM >>> >>> > On 6/30/08 12:14 PM, "Thomas Larkin" wrote: >>> > >>>> >> Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of >>>> >> our Macbooks >>>> >> for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software >>>> >> that our >>>> >> users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. >>>> >> So, the >>>> >> software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of >>>>>> >> based one. >>> > >>> > Any possibility at all that this could work in CrossOver Mac? I know >>> > not >>> > every Windows application works but if it does work for your >>> > application >>> > then it means less overhead. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > bill >>> > >>> > William M. 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If you can shoot me some example scripts that would be greatly appreciated! I did pretty much the same thing with an iMac lab in the past and used Bombich's boot picker but you have to leave firmware wide open for that. I know that I could create a casper policy that will reboot to said volume, but how do you force the windows side to boot back into OS X? Hmm, I just had an idea. If I created a casper policy (this will only work in version 6) with self service that would allow the user to reboot into windows via self service. Then create a windows reboot policy in the OS that would reboot the machine every day automatically at 3pm would mean when they are out of school it would reboot back into the default start up volume, which would be OS X..... This is not how anyone would want to normally operate but I have no choice. Last thing I want is the board of education pissed at us because we can't use their approved, but unsupported old as dirt legacy software, and the developer is no help and there is no way to migrate the old databases to any newer or other technologies.... Basically, at this point I am just wanting it to work, no matter how ridiculous it gets. thanks Thomas Larkin TIS Department KCKPS USD500 tlarki at kckps.org cell: 913-449-7589 office: 913-627-0351 >>> 06/30/08 2:54 PM >>> Tom, Back to your original question, if you have to make the Dual-Boot macs. With the help of JAMF, we have a after restore action script that Casper calls during imaging to restore a compressed NTFS image of a WinXP Macbook (Sysprep'd). After imaging the Mac sides, it resizes the volume, then images the Windows side and restarts to Windows. We still have to post process both the Mac side and the Windows side of the computer, but usually it is only a couple steps each. It's worked pretty well when the volumes sizes are large enough and the hardware is similar. Slow, too. We usually do both the Mac and WinXp side at the same time, but I suppose you could do just a Window partition since it can resize the volume on non-destructively now. I don't know how it would work with OpenFirmware locked since we don't do that. Nathaniel Lindley ++++++++++++++++++ Learning Systems Specialist Educational Technology Saint Paul Public Schools Saint Paul, Minnesota nathaniel.lindley at spps.org phone: 651-603-4929 "Thomas Larkin" Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com 06/30/2008 12:14 PM To cc Subject [Casper] Dual booting Macbooks!!!! Due to powers that be it looks like I must load Windows on all of our Macbooks for one piece of software. This is a critical piece of software that our users need and there is no alternative, for a long story short. So, the software company that is in question is offering to pay for 90% of the costs for windows licenses for one year until they migrate their product to a web based one. So, I must add boot camp, add win xp, add sys prep and the Novell client, and all that stuff. Can I just take an OS snap shot of Windows with composer? has anyone used casper to deploy dual booting images? I would rather not do this but i don't think I have a choice and it is a high priority project so I will be focusing all my time on it. In the past I have done this with Bombich's software and some of his scripts and successfully deployed a dual booting iMac lab. However, due to these all being laptops I need to maintain security on them. Opening up the firmware is not really an option for me. I could use some feed back, and a glass of whiskey. 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