From jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us  Thu May  1 04:58:23 2008
From: jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 06:58:23 -0500
Subject: [Casper] SMART status question
Message-ID: <fc.000f6ed200974805000f6ed200974805.974808@glendale.k12.wi.us>

Wondering why several computers are reported as being added to or removed
from SMART status on a daily basis. I don't see any patterns - sometimes
it's the same computer being added/removed with no specific time period
between modifications and sometimes it's a computer that's never been
involved in a SMART status alert before.

We have a mixture of PPC and Intel machines. 99% are running 10.4.11.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

TIA

Jeff Johnson
Technology Coordinator
Glendale-River Hills School District
2600 W. Mill Rd.
Glendale, WI 53209
jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us


From jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us  Thu May  1 06:55:20 2008
From: jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 08:55:20 -0500
Subject: [Casper] SMART status question
In-Reply-To: <481983B8020000420003AF03@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
References: <481983B8020000420003AF03@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Message-ID: <fc.000f6ed2009749f93b9aca00f670c1ea.974a10@glendale.k12.wi.us>

I thought of that too - I'm pretty sure that's not the issue. There are a
few USB devices out there but not necessarily connected to the machines
that are generating the SMART status alerts.

Jeff 

"Joseph Thomas" <a10jlt1 at wpo.cso.niu.edu> on Thursday, May 1, 2008 at 8:47
AM -0600 wrote:
>Are the systems in question having flash drives or some other kind of
>non-SMART compliant device plugged in / removed?  This happens in our
>labs on occassion when students use thumb drives to move data around. 
>I've also seen some really strange situations where a tablet device will
>be treated like a storage device that is most definitely NOT SMART
>compliant.  


From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Thu May  1 07:41:01 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:41:01 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Symantec Administration Console for Macintosh
In-Reply-To: <C43E6309.358D9%enrique.silberg@yr.com>
Message-ID: <C43F40AD.2FC2%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

First, make sure you?re using version 1.0.2 of the SACM and 1.0.3 of the
SACM client installer. It comes with the corporate edition of SAV 10.2 and
fixes a lot of problems.

I prefer not to use the SACM for pushing updates. I want to see more
immediate results. Instead I have an ongoing policy in Casper to tell all
Macs to update themselves to our internal LiveUpdate server daily and I have
the same policy command in a saved ARD Send Unix command so that I can
manually update a machine. That command is:

/Applications/Symantec\ Solutions/LiveUpdate.app/Contents/MacOS/LiveUpdate
-update LUal -liveupdatequiet YES -liveupdateautoquit YES

For us the SACM is better used as a monitoring tool although we do send out
commands with it for some things.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
Digital Information Systems Support
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

On 4/30/08 4:55 PM, "Enrique silberg" <enrique.silberg at yr.com> wrote:

> Anyone using SAV Symantec Anti Virus corporate version
> 
> We are using Symantec Administration Console for Macintosh and it is a pain.
> Does anyone have a way to Kill it and use Casper to insure clients are up to
> date.

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From nicometo.tim at mayo.edu  Fri May  2 12:15:15 2008
From: nicometo.tim at mayo.edu (Nicometo, Tim S.)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 14:15:15 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Feature Request
In-Reply-To: <211DA2C5-3D80-408C-93AE-77CEB99EEBF4@bazmac.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C440D273.6E22%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>

I would like to second this feature request, only modify it a little...

There are two applications we use that do not show up under the installed
applications.  There is an InDesign plug-in called Q2ID3 that is a licensed
plug-in, however it only shows up in package receipts.

The other is Default Folder X.  This is another licensed application,
however since it really is a PreferencePane, it only shows up under package
receipts.

So, when an update to either of these applications come out, it would be
nice to have a smart group created based on either of the package receipts
to then create a policy to install the update.

Thanks...

tim


On 4/30/08 4:17 AM, "Baz Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It would be really handy if I could do a smart group filtered against
> package receipts. It would be the easiest way to tell what packages
> were installed. I will be rolling out font upgrades with Casper and I
> can see the receipts for those packages, but can't do a smart group
> against them.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Michael
> 
> *****************************************************
> 
> This E-Mail has been scanned by Sophos Anti-Virus
> 
> *****************************************************
> 
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Tim Nicometo
Mayo Clinic
timn at mayo.edu
(507) 255-3034


From Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com  Tue May  6 08:10:11 2008
From: Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com (Jesse Almanrode)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 09:10:11 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Flash 9 issues
Message-ID: <C445D0F3.6EE8%Jesse.Almanrode@cabelas.com>

Ok... We have been working on creating a Flash 9 Universal Binary package
from Adobe. I have manually created the package as well as used Casper?s
pre-built packages but users still get prompted to install Flash 9 while
browsing.  I have manually verified that the files install properly, had the
user restart, and even tested it in admin.

I am wondering what everyone else has done with Flash Player 9 to get it
working....


  ---<o><o><o>---
Jesse Almanrode
?Sr. Systems Specialist?
MIS Technical Services
Cabela?s Inc.
308-255-2625
jhalmanr at cabelas.com



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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue May  6 08:29:21 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:29:21 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Flash 9 issues
Message-ID: <s820330f.019@gwmail.kckps.org>

We have the same problem with our MCX clients.  It seems that even though it is installed they still get prompted to install it on some web sites.  I have noticed if you ignore the notice and keep browsing and drilling through the links on the site, the site still works.  

The weird thing is, that if I browse the same website on a non managed local account on that same machine it works fine.   I think this is an issue with the Apple side and managed accounts.

Do you get the same results if browsing the site as a local admin?

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Jesse Almanrode <Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com> 05/06/08 10:10 AM >>>
Ok... We have been working on creating a Flash 9 Universal Binary package
from Adobe. I have manually created the package as well as used Casper?s
pre-built packages but users still get prompted to install Flash 9 while
browsing.  I have manually verified that the files install properly, had the
user restart, and even tested it in admin.

I am wondering what everyone else has done with Flash Player 9 to get it
working....


  ---<o><o><o>---
Jesse Almanrode
?Sr. Systems Specialist?
MIS Technical Services
Cabela?s Inc.
308-255-2625
jhalmanr at cabelas.com





From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Tue May  6 09:04:48 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:04:48 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Flash 9 issues
In-Reply-To: <C445D0F3.6EE8%Jesse.Almanrode@cabelas.com>
Message-ID: <C445EBD0.1A18%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>

Have you checked the Adobe installer logs to make sure it is installing
correctly?  /Library/Logs/Adobe


On 5/6/08 10:10 AM, "Jesse Almanrode" <Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com> wrote:

> Ok... We have been working on creating a Flash 9 Universal Binary package from
> Adobe. I have manually created the package as well as used Casper?s pre-built
> packages but users still get prompted to install Flash 9 while browsing.  I
> have manually verified that the files install properly, had the user restart,
> and even tested it in admin.
> 
> I am wondering what everyone else has done with Flash Player 9 to get it
> working....
> 
> 
>   ---<o><o><o>---
> Jesse Almanrode
> ?Sr. Systems Specialist?
> MIS Technical Services
> Cabela?s Inc.
> 308-255-2625
> jhalmanr at cabelas.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
> 
> 
> John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   |  651-632-4072
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us  Thu May  8 07:05:24 2008
From: Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us (Shawn Surma)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 10:05:24 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Active Directory Bind problem
In-Reply-To: <mailman.305224.1209483935.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.305224.1209483935.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <fc.000f71460343d3033b9aca0028672b30.343d422@liverpool.k12.ny.us>

We are just starting to use Casper in production and have found that the
AD Bind adds the domain to the contacts tab and in Leopard allows users to
see all the directory information of all students and faculty.  Does
anyone know how I can remove the domain from the Contacts tab of Directory
Utility without having to go in manually?

Thanks,
        Shawn


Liverpool Central School District
Computer Services
Liverpool, NY 13090
(315) 622-7150




From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Thu May  8 09:07:25 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:07:25 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Active Directory Bind problem
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f71460343d3033b9aca0028672b30.343d422@liverpool.k12.ny.us>
Message-ID: <C4488F6D.31FD%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

Hi Shawn!

This is standard behavior for AD connections. The same information you're
seeing is usually used for email and phone number lookups and any LDAP
utility will allow the students to see it regardless of whether you're using
Tiger or Leopard (or Windows or Linux or something else). Disabling this one
feature in Leopard doesn't prevent someone from accessing the data using
other means.

If you're concerned about privacy then I'd suggest modifying your AD
security to not allow read access to all users. Be very careful of this
because you can easily break systems that rely on AD lookups.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
Digital Information Systems Support
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

On 5/8/08 9:05 AM, "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> wrote:

> We are just starting to use Casper in production and have found that the
> AD Bind adds the domain to the contacts tab and in Leopard allows users to
> see all the directory information of all students and faculty.  Does
> anyone know how I can remove the domain from the Contacts tab of Directory
> Utility without having to go in manually?


From dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us  Mon May 12 15:08:50 2008
From: dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us (Dan Peterka)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:08:50 -0700
Subject: [Casper] (no subject)
Message-ID: <97E597F1-919D-4066-978D-5F71896ECA8B@sbsd.k12.ca.us>

I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox  
using a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that  
requires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to run  
the browser in Rosetta mode.

Dan Peterka

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From chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us  Mon May 12 15:15:01 2008
From: chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us (Chad Brewer)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Casper] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <97E597F1-919D-4066-978D-5F71896ECA8B@sbsd.k12.ca.us>
References: <97E597F1-919D-4066-978D-5F71896ECA8B@sbsd.k12.ca.us>
Message-ID: <fc.011f04d200071dab3b9aca002455c331.71e01@bend.k12.or.us>

FYI: Adobe did just recently release Shockwave for Intel Macs.

Chad

Dan Peterka <dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us> on May 12, 2008 at 3:08 PM -0700
wrote:
>I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
>usingl a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
>requgires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to run the
>rbrowser in Rosetta mode.
>
>Dan Peterka 
>_______________________________________________
>Casper mailing list
>Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper


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From rcorbin at mac.com  Mon May 12 15:18:58 2008
From: rcorbin at mac.com (Roger Corbin)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:18:58 -0400
Subject: [Casper] In Regards to Shockwave and Rosetta
In-Reply-To: <mailman.345618.1210631556.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.345618.1210631556.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C03D17F9-046D-4716-8907-F49A5EE13701@mac.com>

Did you know that Shockwave was updated recently for Intel ?

http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do? 
externalId=82216d24&sliceId=1

It's version 11.

Roger Corbin


On 12-May-08, at 6:32 PM, casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com wrote:

> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:08:50 -0700
> From: Dan Peterka <dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us>
> Subject: [Casper] (no subject)
> To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> Message-ID: <97E597F1-919D-4066-978D-5F71896ECA8B at sbsd.k12.ca.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
> using a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
> requires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to run
> the browser in Rosetta mode.
>
> Dan Peterka
>

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon May 12 15:24:50 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:24:50 -0500
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
Message-ID: <s8287d83.085@gwmail.kckps.org>

So, summer projects here....and you guessed it we are migrating to
Leopard (well i guess the subject of the email tipped you off).

here is what I have to do with my co-workers over the summer

Upgrade about 20 Xserves to 10.5 as well as 5,600 to 5,800 macbooks,
plus some desktops here and there.  I got some images made, and will be
migrating the servers (clean installs) next week.  Upgrading the ODM and
1 building first.  Then the rest of the ODRs.  So far in my test images
the casper client works and checks into inventory fine.  I will be
updating the JSS to 10.5 as well because word on the street is they
approved my request for a new server for the JSS, which will have 10.5
preloaded on it.

So, any pointers, caveats, suggestions, warnings, blessings, prayers,
etc. will be greatly appreciated.

This will be the first time I have ever used the Casper netboot imaging
this massively.  I have used Bombich's netrestore in the past and to be
honest I like how more robust the casper client is.  I know there is
currently no multi-casting available with Casper but that is not a huge
deal.  

What do you guys use to create your NBI's for casper imaging?  Do you
use the casper image creator utility?  Also, I have a beta copy of that
I got from JAMF support is there another version out now, I guess this
is directed towards JAMF support staff?

I have some configuration scripts I want to run using the casper binary,
I assume those will have to run after the machine is image because the
casper binary is not present beforehand, or in the NBI itself?  

Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351

From chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us  Mon May 12 15:33:13 2008
From: chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us (Chad Brewer)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:33:13 -0700
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
In-Reply-To: <s8287d83.085@gwmail.kckps.org>
References: <s8287d83.085@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <fc.011f04d200071e813b9aca005df5f688.71eab@bend.k12.or.us>

I have a similar project planned for the summer.  I have already
determined that Casper's unicast imaging is not going to work very well
for us.  I am planning on using multicast ASR to deploy the image.

Basically, I have taken my casper image and run "asr -imagescan" on it. 
Then I am dropping Casper's FirstRun script into it to take care of the
JAMF client service.  I haven't tested this in mass, but it seems like its
going to work fine.  I'm open other ideas, but we've had problems doing 10
computers at a time with unicast imaging.  I want to be able to do 50 to
100.

Chad

"Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> on May 12, 2008 at 3:24 PM -0700 wrote:
>So, summer projects here....and you guessed it we are migrating to
>Leopard (well i guess the subject of the email tipped you off).
>
>here is what I have to do with my co-workers over the summer
>
>Upgrade about 20 Xserves to 10.5 as well as 5,600 to 5,800 macbooks,
>plus some desktops here and there.  I got some images made, and will be
>migrating the servers (clean installs) next week.  Upgrading the ODM and
>1 building first.  Then the rest of the ODRs.  So far in my test images
>the casper client works and checks into inventory fine.  I will be
>updating the JSS to 10.5 as well because word on the street is they
>approved my request for a new server for the JSS, which will have 10.5
>preloaded on it.
>
>So, any pointers, caveats, suggestions, warnings, blessings, prayers,
>etc. will be greatly appreciated.
>
>This will be the first time I have ever used the Casper netboot imaging
>this massively.  I have used Bombich's netrestore in the past and to be
>honest I like how more robust the casper client is.  I know there is
>currently no multi-casting available with Casper but that is not a huge
>deal.  
>
>What do you guys use to create your NBI's for casper imaging?  Do you
>use the casper image creator utility?  Also, I have a beta copy of that
>I got from JAMF support is there another version out now, I guess this
>is directed towards JAMF support staff?
>
>I have some configuration scripts I want to run using the casper binary,
>I assume those will have to run after the machine is image because the
>casper binary is not present beforehand, or in the NBI itself?  
>
>Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions.
>
>Thomas Larkin
>TIS Department
>KCKPS USD500
>tlarki at kckps.org
>cell:  913-449-7589
>office:  913-627-0351
>_______________________________________________
>Casper mailing list
>Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper


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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon May 12 16:07:25 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:07:25 -0500
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
Message-ID: <s828876b.016@gwmail.kckps.org>

Yeah I am looking to do about 50 at a time if I can.  

What are your server specs that is unicasting?

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Chad Brewer" <chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us> 05/12/08 5:33 PM >>>
I have a similar project planned for the summer.  I have already
determined that Casper's unicast imaging is not going to work very well
for us.  I am planning on using multicast ASR to deploy the image.

Basically, I have taken my casper image and run "asr -imagescan" on it. 
Then I am dropping Casper's FirstRun script into it to take care of the
JAMF client service.  I haven't tested this in mass, but it seems like
its
going to work fine.  I'm open other ideas, but we've had problems doing
10
computers at a time with unicast imaging.  I want to be able to do 50 to
100.

Chad

"Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> on May 12, 2008 at 3:24 PM -0700
wrote:
>So, summer projects here....and you guessed it we are migrating to
>Leopard (well i guess the subject of the email tipped you off).
>
>here is what I have to do with my co-workers over the summer
>
>Upgrade about 20 Xserves to 10.5 as well as 5,600 to 5,800 macbooks,
>plus some desktops here and there.  I got some images made, and will be
>migrating the servers (clean installs) next week.  Upgrading the ODM
and
>1 building first.  Then the rest of the ODRs.  So far in my test images
>the casper client works and checks into inventory fine.  I will be
>updating the JSS to 10.5 as well because word on the street is they
>approved my request for a new server for the JSS, which will have 10.5
>preloaded on it.
>
>So, any pointers, caveats, suggestions, warnings, blessings, prayers,
>etc. will be greatly appreciated.
>
>This will be the first time I have ever used the Casper netboot imaging
>this massively.  I have used Bombich's netrestore in the past and to be
>honest I like how more robust the casper client is.  I know there is
>currently no multi-casting available with Casper but that is not a huge
>deal.  
>
>What do you guys use to create your NBI's for casper imaging?  Do you
>use the casper image creator utility?  Also, I have a beta copy of that
>I got from JAMF support is there another version out now, I guess this
>is directed towards JAMF support staff?
>
>I have some configuration scripts I want to run using the casper
binary,
>I assume those will have to run after the machine is image because the
>casper binary is not present beforehand, or in the NBI itself?  
>
>Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions.
>
>Thomas Larkin
>TIS Department
>KCKPS USD500
>tlarki at kckps.org
>cell:  913-449-7589
>office:  913-627-0351
>_______________________________________________
>Casper mailing list
>Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper




From dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us  Mon May 12 16:12:51 2008
From: dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us (Dan Peterka)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:12:51 -0700
Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
Message-ID: <DAD5F323-0B98-436F-A0AB-5737DBD4CE37@sbsd.k12.ca.us>

The application misbehaves with Shockwave 11, and the Shockwave XTRA  
plugin (a plugin to a plugin?) that allows printing from Shockwave  
either does not work with Shockwave 11, or does not work without  
rosetta enabled. Either way, it doesn't work.

For now, it has to be Shockwave 10 in Rosetta mode. So, how can I  
enable rosetta in the Get Info box without touching each computer?

Dan Peterka

> I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
> usingl a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
> requgires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to  
> run the
> rbrowser in Rosetta mode.
>
> Dan Peterka
>


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From chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us  Mon May 12 20:50:13 2008
From: chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us (Chad Brewer)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:50:13 -0700
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
In-Reply-To: <s828876b.015@gwmail.kckps.org>
References: <s828876b.015@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <fc.011f04d20007221f3b9aca00f9a614f0.7222b@bend.k12.or.us>

2 XServe Xeons.  1 to run netboot and serve as the AFP file share.  The
other just runs the Jamf database and tomcat.  I would guess that unicast
works fairly well for up to around 10 sessions (more if you don't mind
waiting a while).  The problem with this is that when your doing all of
these at once, every session is trying to use 1Gb of bandwidth.  10
computers takes you down to 100M per computer.

Chad

"Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> on Monday, May 12, 2008 at 4:07 PM
-0700 wrote:
>Yeah I am looking to do about 50 at a time if I can.  
>
>What are your server specs that is unicasting?
>
>Thomas Larkin
>TIS Department
>KCKPS USD500
>tlarki at kckps.org
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>office:  913-627-0351
>>>> "Chad Brewer" <chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us> 05/12/08 5:33 PM >>>
>I have a similar project planned for the summer.  I have already
>determined that Casper's unicast imaging is not going to work very well
>for us.  I am planning on using multicast ASR to deploy the image.
>
>Basically, I have taken my casper image and run "asr -imagescan" on it. 
>Then I am dropping Casper's FirstRun script into it to take care of the
>JAMF client service.  I haven't tested this in mass, but it seems like
>its
>going to work fine.  I'm open other ideas, but we've had problems doing
>10
>computers at a time with unicast imaging.  I want to be able to do 50 to
>100.
>
>Chad
>
>"Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> on May 12, 2008 at 3:24 PM -0700
>wrote:
>>So, summer projects here....and you guessed it we are migrating to
>>Leopard (well i guess the subject of the email tipped you off).
>>
>>here is what I have to do with my co-workers over the summer
>>
>>Upgrade about 20 Xserves to 10.5 as well as 5,600 to 5,800 macbooks,
>>plus some desktops here and there.  I got some images made, and will be
>>migrating the servers (clean installs) next week.  Upgrading the ODM
>and
>>1 building first.  Then the rest of the ODRs.  So far in my test images
>>the casper client works and checks into inventory fine.  I will be
>>updating the JSS to 10.5 as well because word on the street is they
>>approved my request for a new server for the JSS, which will have 10.5
>>preloaded on it.
>>
>>So, any pointers, caveats, suggestions, warnings, blessings, prayers,
>>etc. will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>This will be the first time I have ever used the Casper netboot imaging
>>this massively.  I have used Bombich's netrestore in the past and to be
>>honest I like how more robust the casper client is.  I know there is
>>currently no multi-casting available with Casper but that is not a huge
>>deal.  
>>
>>What do you guys use to create your NBI's for casper imaging?  Do you
>>use the casper image creator utility?  Also, I have a beta copy of that
>>I got from JAMF support is there another version out now, I guess this
>>is directed towards JAMF support staff?
>>
>>I have some configuration scripts I want to run using the casper
>binary,
>>I assume those will have to run after the machine is image because the
>>casper binary is not present beforehand, or in the NBI itself?  
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions.
>>
>>Thomas Larkin
>>TIS Department
>>KCKPS USD500
>>tlarki at kckps.org
>>cell:  913-449-7589
>>office:  913-627-0351
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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Mon May 12 21:26:42 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:26:42 -0500
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
In-Reply-To: <fc.011f04d200071e813b9aca005df5f688.71eab@bend.k12.or.us>
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	<fc.011f04d200071e813b9aca005df5f688.71eab@bend.k12.or.us>
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I'm on the path of considering this as well.  We've been testing Leopard roll-outs and the imaging time is just insane.  Configurations just keep getting larger, so a multicast solution really would be what we'd need to look to.  Even with spreading the load out around to several XServes to push the files, the imaging times just are too long.  It'll be fine for the initial roll-out when we can just let the machines work on them, but down the road, I'm not sure it'll work for on the spot re-imaging without having spares.

I'd be interested to hear from the jamf folks as well on some ideas to this.  I also am interested in the Casper netboot image creator.  The one that ships with leopard is picky as heck, so I'd love to see the Jamf solution...  I remember someone telling me about it but haven't seen software.

Thanks,
John

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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Brewer [chad.brewer at bend.k12.or.us]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:33 PM
To: Thomas Larkin
Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Casper] leopard migration

I have a similar project planned for the summer.  I have already determined that Casper's unicast imaging is not going to work very well for us.  I am planning on using multicast ASR to deploy the image.

Basically, I have taken my casper image and run "asr -imagescan" on it.  Then I am dropping Casper's FirstRun script into it to take care of the JAMF client service.  I haven't tested this in mass, but it seems like its going to work fine.  I'm open other ideas, but we've had problems doing 10 computers at a time with unicast imaging.  I want to be able to do 50 to 100.

Chad

"Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org<mailto:tlarki at kckps.org>> on May 12, 2008 at 3:24 PM -0700 wrote:
So, summer projects here....and you guessed it we are migrating to
Leopard (well i guess the subject of the email tipped you off).

here is what I have to do with my co-workers over the summer

Upgrade about 20 Xserves to 10.5 as well as 5,600 to 5,800 macbooks,
plus some desktops here and there.  I got some images made, and will be
migrating the servers (clean installs) next week.  Upgrading the ODM and
1 building first.  Then the rest of the ODRs.  So far in my test images
the casper client works and checks into inventory fine.  I will be
updating the JSS to 10.5 as well because word on the street is they
approved my request for a new server for the JSS, which will have 10.5
preloaded on it.

So, any pointers, caveats, suggestions, warnings, blessings, prayers,
etc. will be greatly appreciated.

This will be the first time I have ever used the Casper netboot imaging
this massively.  I have used Bombich's netrestore in the past and to be
honest I like how more robust the casper client is.  I know there is
currently no multi-casting available with Casper but that is not a huge
deal.

What do you guys use to create your NBI's for casper imaging?  Do you
use the casper image creator utility?  Also, I have a beta copy of that
I got from JAMF support is there another version out now, I guess this
is directed towards JAMF support staff?

I have some configuration scripts I want to run using the casper binary,
I assume those will have to run after the machine is image because the
casper binary is not present beforehand, or in the NBI itself?

Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org<mailto:tlarki at kckps.org>
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From SChadda at oco.com  Mon May 12 23:13:53 2008
From: SChadda at oco.com (Siddhartha Chadda)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 01:13:53 -0500
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
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use the right size bolts to press the n key.
start netrestore, netinstall whatever at the exact same time on 50 
machines at a time.
no problem.
also do it on a seperate segmented network.
if all machines are making the exact same request to afp and all afp reads 
are from memory not disk things go faster.
did this at hopkins many moons ago.
i wonder if they still do that? respond. you know who you are.

see these photos.
look closely for the bolts!
http://weblogs.hopkins.k12.mn.us/onetoone/wp-content/uploads/laptopimaging.jpg



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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue May 13 06:21:29 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:21:29 -0500
Subject: [Casper] leopard migration
In-Reply-To: <OFCD5DDB7C.63D4E41D-ON86257448.00210322-86257448.00223A9A@oco.com>
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I've been working on how I'm going to handle upgrading our small  
deployment (about 80 machines), and I've come up with utilizing  
InstaDMG to create the initial base image, and then layering on  
everything else.  The beauty of using the InstaDMG process is that I  
can then use the base image on PPC and Intel hardware without having  
to utilize two different images.  And, the beauty is that I can use  
that same exact image to be my NetBoot image.

For those that don't know about InstaDMG, head on over to AFP548.com  
and start with Josh's discussion on imaging:

http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=ImageCreationRevolution&query=revolution

Then move on to the the webcast held  on MacEnterprise.org for InstaDMG:

http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20080414170557450&query=revolution

Or the MacWorld show presentation by Joel Rennich and Josh Wisenbaker:

https://www.macworldencore.com/online/presentation.asp?sessionTypeId=1&trackId=4

If you've already been thru this, I'm sorry for re-posting these links.

I took an InstaDMG created image, mounted it on the desktop of my  
Leopard server, added the Casper suite to the Applications folder (and  
took out apps I didn't need), re-saved the image, then re-mounted it  
and ran it thru the System Image utility in Leopard.  I can now  
NetBoot any machine I want, PPC and Intel, with the one image and use  
it to re-image using Casper.  Now, of course, this is not an automated  
NetInstall, so it does require the "right size bolts", as Siddhartha  
mentioned, but it will work.  And the image has worked flawlessly on  
each computer I've installed it on.

A word of advice when it comes to the InstaDMG build train:  make sure  
you utilize the clearReg.pkg script to clear the intro video:

http://www.afp548.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=20312

I would agree, however, that multi-cast is the preferred method when  
dealing with that large a number of machines.  I would also suggest,  
as Siddhartha mentioned, if possible get them all on a segmented  
network.  If you can setup a "build room" with a machine running 10.5  
Server, a Gigabit switch, and all of your machines, that's the way to  
go.  I have found in the past that doing it this way, even setting up  
a MacPro or G5 with Leopard Server running on it, I could image 20  
machines in about an hour or so.

I'd be interested to see how everyone manages this, and how it goes.   
I know for me the issue is preserving user content on the machines.   
The person that was in here before me did not move users to network  
home folders, so I have to do upgrades one at a time so that I can  
preserve the user data.  That is, until I write the scripts necessary  
to move the data before using Casper to doing auto-magically.  Anyone  
have any scripts they want to share?  :-)


Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
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On May 13, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Siddhartha Chadda wrote:

>
> use the right size bolts to press the n key.
> start netrestore, netinstall whatever at the exact same time on 50  
> machines at a time.
> no problem.
> also do it on a seperate segmented network.
> if all machines are making the exact same request to afp and all afp  
> reads are from memory not disk things go faster.
> did this at hopkins many moons ago.
> i wonder if they still do that? respond. you know who you are.
>
> see these photos.
> look closely for the bolts!
> http://weblogs.hopkins.k12.mn.us/onetoone/wp-content/uploads/laptopimaging.jpg
>
>
>
> Siddhartha Chadda
> Chief Technology Officer
> OLSON
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> C:612.986.9310
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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 13 06:36:51 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:36:51 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94633@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

I don't know the answer, but the way I'd find it is to get a 'new and modified' snapshot via Composer before Rosetta is enabled, then enable Rosetta, then launch the app, then quit the app, then build the package in Composer and examine the changed files that relate to the app in question, or possibly launch services in this case.

If the desired file is a plist, as I imagine it would be in this case, I'd find the operative key(s) and use a 'defaults write' script rather than packaging the plist to avoid altering undesired settings. 


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Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command

The application misbehaves with Shockwave 11, and the Shockwave XTRA plugin (a plugin to a plugin?) that allows printing from Shockwave either does not work with Shockwave 11, or does not work without rosetta enabled. Either way, it doesn't work.

For now, it has to be Shockwave 10 in Rosetta mode. So, how can I enable rosetta in the Get Info box without touching each computer?

Dan Peterka


	I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
	usingl a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
	requgires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to run the
	rbrowser in Rosetta mode.

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 13 06:54:22 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:54:22 -0400
Subject: [Casper] What sort of policies are you using?
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94635@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

Hey all,

I'd like to start a thread about the types of tasks we're accomplishing using the Casper policy engine so we can hopefully get some time saving ideas from each other.

I have policies that do the following;

- pmset script to wake at 8pm (scoped to desktops - smart group containing models "mac pro" or "power mac")

- run updates from internal SUS overnight (scoped to desktops)

- run updates from internal SUS on any trigger while on corporate network (scoped to notebooks)

- ad hoc policies to fix problems or install software







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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 13 06:56:14 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:56:14 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Feature request: editable default reboot message
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94636@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

I'd like to be able to alter the default message that is sent to a computer to be rebooted when someone is logged in.






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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue May 13 07:14:46 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:14:46 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Feature request: editable default reboot message
Message-ID: <s8295c12.034@gwmail.kckps.org>

You can do that when creating the policy in the JSS, under the reboot
tab, or do you mean something else?

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office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Leacy, Miles (US)" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> 05/13/08 8:56
AM >>>
I'd like to be able to alter the default message that is sent to a
computer to be rebooted when someone is logged in.






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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 13 07:20:55 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:20:55 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Feature request: editable default reboot message
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94637@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

I mean the ability to replace the default message with a new default message.

I almost always use the same message, but its different than the built-in default message.  Replacing the default message would save a few clicks & keystrokes every time I create a policy or perform a Casper remote action.

Perhaps this could be an item in the Admin tab?


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Subject: Re: [Casper] Feature request: editable default reboot message

You can do that when creating the policy in the JSS, under the reboot
tab, or do you mean something else?

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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue May 13 08:55:06 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:55:06 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Adobe Updates
Message-ID: <96152453-D751-428F-B9AA-EDB37848D173@integerdallas.com>

Okay, this may have been covered in the list already, but since I just  
started "watching" in April, I haven't seen it.  I wanted to find out  
how everyone is handling Adobe updates to the CS3 suite.   
Specifically, how are you figuring out what Adobe updates need to be  
applied, and how are you gathering them?  The one way I have thought  
of is to allow the Adobe updater to download the files without  
installing them, and then grab the Install folder from the ~/Library/ 
Application Support/Adobe/Updater5/Install folder.  The only problem I  
can think of is the install order:  how do we determine that?

Anyone care to share?

Thanks.

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From nicometo.tim at mayo.edu  Tue May 13 09:12:45 2008
From: nicometo.tim at mayo.edu (Nicometo, Tim S.)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:12:45 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
Message-ID: <C44F282D.7000%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>

Hello all, I am wondering if someone has a proven, rock star, strategy for
creating base Leopard OS images for laptops vs. desktops in regards to
networking settings, Airport, modems, etc.

All of our desktop machines are connected via Ethernet and none use Airport,
nor any modems.  However, almost all of our laptops connect to the network
via Airport, and in some rare cases via modem.

Is it a safe bet to include all the Airport and modems settings on a base OS
image deployable to all platforms, even though the desktops will never use
these settings?  Or do we need to created separate images for laptops and
desktops.

Note, I thought about creating a Composer package just for laptop network
settings, however there were quite a few byhost files that were created in
the process, and to be honest, I am not sure how to handle those.

Thanks in advance for any help/information/strategies...
-- 
Tim Nicometo
Mayo Clinic
timn at mayo.edu
(507) 255-3034

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From nicometo.tim at mayo.edu  Tue May 13 09:16:02 2008
From: nicometo.tim at mayo.edu (Nicometo, Tim S.)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Require Password on Wake From Sleep
Message-ID: <C44F28F2.7002%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>

Hello all, does anyone have a method or script to include a setting at image
time that will set the computer to require a password on wake from sleep?
-- 
Tim Nicometo
Mayo Clinic
timn at mayo.edu
(507) 255-3034

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 13 09:31:47 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:31:47 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D9463C@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

Casper or not, I've always built images on the newest portable hardware available, then run the latest OS combo updater.  This always gives me an image that will be backward compatible with all supported hardware

If there is a newer desktop hardware release than the latest portable, after testing the image generated on the latest portable, you may need to create a seperate desktop image using the newer hardware, though when the next OS combo updater is released, you should be able to go back to using an image created from the latest portable.

Since the MacBook Air has some unique hardware, it may require its own base image.





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To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Tue May 13 12:12:45 2008
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images

Hello all, I am wondering if someone has a proven, rock star, strategy for creating base Leopard OS images for laptops vs. desktops in regards to networking settings, Airport, modems, etc.

All of our desktop machines are connected via Ethernet and none use Airport, nor any modems.  However, almost all of our laptops connect to the network via Airport, and in some rare cases via modem.

Is it a safe bet to include all the Airport and modems settings on a base OS image deployable to all platforms, even though the desktops will never use these settings?  Or do we need to created separate images for laptops and desktops.

Note, I thought about creating a Composer package just for laptop network settings, however there were quite a few byhost files that were created in the process, and to be honest, I am not sure how to handle those.

Thanks in advance for any help/information/strategies...
-- 
Tim Nicometo
Mayo Clinic
timn at mayo.edu
(507) 255-3034







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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue May 13 09:32:53 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:32:53 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
In-Reply-To: <C44F282D.7000%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>
Message-ID: <C44F2CE5.A8E5%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Tim,

I use a single Leopard image for everything including AirPort settings.

I include all the required settings for our private network in the AirPort, but I turn Off the AirPort interface when I'm done configuring it before creating the image.

The assumptions are:

Desktop users will be wired so they won't ever need AirPort on and take up addresses
Laptop users would be wired the first time they logon and then turn on AirPort after that, or we make sure it's enabled before we hand it to them

This seems to work fine for us so far since our network is consistent everywhere. If you have multiple network configurations (because of geographical locations, etc.) then that gets a little difficult to do that in the single image.

Craig

On 5/13/08 11:12 AM, "Nicometo, Tim S." <nicometo.tim at mayo.edu> wrote:

Hello all, I am wondering if someone has a proven, rock star, strategy for creating base Leopard OS images for laptops vs. desktops in regards to networking settings, Airport, modems, etc.

All of our desktop machines are connected via Ethernet and none use Airport, nor any modems.  However, almost all of our laptops connect to the network via Airport, and in some rare cases via modem.

Is it a safe bet to include all the Airport and modems settings on a base OS image deployable to all platforms, even though the desktops will never use these settings?  Or do we need to created separate images for laptops and desktops.

Note, I thought about creating a Composer package just for laptop network settings, however there were quite a few byhost files that were created in the process, and to be honest, I am not sure how to handle those.

Thanks in advance for any help/information/strategies...
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From nicometo.tim at mayo.edu  Tue May 13 10:25:11 2008
From: nicometo.tim at mayo.edu (Nicometo, Tim S.)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:25:11 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
In-Reply-To: <C44F2CE5.A8E5%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C44F3927.700A%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>

Thanks Craig (again).  I like this part of your post...

I think I will try this, test and see how it goes.

tim


On 5/13/08 11:32 AM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> I include all the required settings for our private network in the AirPort,
> but I turn Off the AirPort interface when I?m done configuring it before
> creating the image.

-- 
Tim Nicometo
Mayo Clinic
timn at mayo.edu
(507) 255-3034

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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue May 13 10:29:41 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Require Password on Wake From Sleep
In-Reply-To: <C44F28F2.7002%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>
References: <C44F28F2.7002%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>
Message-ID: <85605ACD-408B-49CE-BD37-8C682027A791@integerdallas.com>

Check out Greg Neagle's blog:

http://managingosx.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/mcx-vs-the-screensaver-and-leopard/#more-122

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 13, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Nicometo, Tim S. wrote:

> Hello all, does anyone have a method or script to include a setting  
> at image time that will set the computer to require a password on  
> wake from sleep?
> -- 
> Tim Nicometo
> Mayo Clinic
> timn at mayo.edu
> (507) 255-3034
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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue May 13 10:34:17 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
In-Reply-To: <C44F3927.700A%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>
References: <C44F3927.700A%nicometo.tim@mayo.edu>
Message-ID: <6604F0E2-9CE2-4606-A41E-EE5F4B4BB8E8@integerdallas.com>

I'll have to dig around for the information, but you could manage your  
network interfaces using shell scripts that run after imaging the  
system.  Again, I use InstaDMG for my base image, that way the image  
is never booted until it is laid onto the system.  Once you have the  
image on the machine, then push your preference changes to the  
system.  You may even be able to capture the settings using Composer  
and push those plist files to the system.

Just makes it cleaner, in my opinion.

Just my 2 pennies.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 13, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Nicometo, Tim S. wrote:

> Thanks Craig (again).  I like this part of your post...
>
> I think I will try this, test and see how it goes.
>
> tim
>
>
> On 5/13/08 11:32 AM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
>
>> I include all the required settings for our private network in the  
>> AirPort, but I turn Off the AirPort interface when I?m done  
>> configuring it before creating the image.
>
> -- 
> Tim Nicometo
> Mayo Clinic
> timn at mayo.edu
> (507) 255-3034
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper



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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue May 13 10:44:49 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:44:49 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Network Settings on Standard Images
Message-ID: <s8298d4b.023@gwmail.kckps.org>

If you are using Leopard then you can configure everything via post
scripts with the following command

/usr/sbin/networksetup

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> 05/13/08 12:34 PM >>>
I'll have to dig around for the information, but you could manage your  
network interfaces using shell scripts that run after imaging the  
system.  Again, I use InstaDMG for my base image, that way the image  
is never booted until it is laid onto the system.  Once you have the  
image on the machine, then push your preference changes to the  
system.  You may even be able to capture the settings using Composer  
and push those plist files to the system.

Just makes it cleaner, in my opinion.

Just my 2 pennies.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 13, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Nicometo, Tim S. wrote:

> Thanks Craig (again).  I like this part of your post...
>
> I think I will try this, test and see how it goes.
>
> tim
>
>
> On 5/13/08 11:32 AM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
>
>> I include all the required settings for our private network in the  
>> AirPort, but I turn Off the AirPort interface when I'm done  
>> configuring it before creating the image.
>
> -- 
> Tim Nicometo
> Mayo Clinic
> timn at mayo.edu
> (507) 255-3034
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper



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From jeremymatthews at mac.com  Tue May 13 11:12:47 2008
From: jeremymatthews at mac.com (Jeremy Matthews)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:12:47 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Casper Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.348124.1210701274.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.348124.1210701274.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <DFE41EC0-3DEB-4982-8CAB-0EEDDD915D6F@mac.com>

+1

On May 13, 2008, at 1:54 PM, casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com wrote:

> I'll have to dig around for the information, but you could manage your
> network interfaces using shell scripts that run after imaging the
> system.  Again, I use InstaDMG for my base image, that way the image
> is never booted until it is laid onto the system.  Once you have the
> image on the machine, then push your preference changes to the
> system.  You may even be able to capture the settings using Composer
> and push those plist files to the system.
>
> Just makes it cleaner, in my opinion.
>
> Just my 2 pennies.


From dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us  Tue May 13 12:00:28 2008
From: dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us (Dan Peterka)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:00:28 -0700
Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
In-Reply-To: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94633@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>
References: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D94633@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>
Message-ID: <0060F07B-EED4-49AB-957E-D01FD128FA42@sbsd.k12.ca.us>

The Open using Rosetta setting modifies the file:  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist

defaults read com.apple.LaunchServices shows an entry:

     LSPrefsFatApplications = {
         "com.apple.Safari" = (
             <00000000 009a0003 00010000 c323458f 0000482b 00000000  
00000023 0000727b 0000c2b0 8b4e0000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000  
0000ffff ffff0001 00040000 0023000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061  
00720069 002e0061 00700070 000f0014 00090053 00650072 00760065  
00720020 00480044 00120017 4170706c 69636174 696f6e73 2f536166  
6172692e 61707000 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>

that corresponds to what is seen using Property List Editor. When the  
button is clicked off, this entry disappears.

Two problems: 1) How to get this to be happen at the system level and  
2) how to set it using the command line.

I don't know what the data between the <...>'s is. It is the same  
between users and between toggling Rosetta on and off, and the  
LSPrefsFatApplications entry in Tiger is replaced by a much different  
LSArchitecturesForX86_64 entry in Leopard:

     "LSArchitecturesForX86_64" =     {
         "com.apple.Safari" =         (
             <00000000 00a00003 00010000 c3ecd416 0000482b 00000000  
000000a0 00028d9a 0000c2f1 13950000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000  
0000ffff ffff0001 00040000 00a0000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061  
00720069 002e0061 00700070 000f001a 000c004d 00610063 0069006e  
0074006f 00730068 00200048 00440012 00174170 706c6963 6174696f  
6e732f53 61666172 692e6170 70000013 00012f00 ffff0000>,
             ppc,
             <00000000 00960003 00010000 c44f641c 0000482b 00000000  
0000005c 0000be47 0000c440 fd790000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000  
0000ffff ffff0001 00040000 005c000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061  
00720069 002e0061 00700070 000f0010 0007004e 00650074 0042006f  
006f0074 00120017 4170706c 69636174 696f6e73 2f536166 6172692e  
61707000 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>,
             ppc
         );
     };

Dan Peterka

On May 13, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote:

> I don't know the answer, but the way I'd find it is to get a 'new  
> and modified' snapshot via Composer before Rosetta is enabled, then  
> enable Rosetta, then launch the app, then quit the app, then build  
> the package in Composer and examine the changed files that relate  
> to the app in question, or possibly launch services in this case.
>
> If the desired file is a plist, as I imagine it would be in this  
> case, I'd find the operative key(s) and use a 'defaults write'  
> script rather than packaging the plist to avoid altering undesired  
> settings.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper- 
> bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> Sent: Mon May 12 19:12:51 2008
> Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
>
> The application misbehaves with Shockwave 11, and the Shockwave  
> XTRA plugin (a plugin to a plugin?) that allows printing from  
> Shockwave either does not work with Shockwave 11, or does not work  
> without rosetta enabled. Either way, it doesn't work.
>
> For now, it has to be Shockwave 10 in Rosetta mode. So, how can I  
> enable rosetta in the Get Info box without touching each computer?
>
> Dan Peterka
>
>
> 	I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
> 	usingl a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
> 	requgires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to  
> run the
> 	rbrowser in Rosetta mode.
>
> 	Dan Peterka
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From Jason.Weber at district196.org  Wed May 14 13:17:08 2008
From: Jason.Weber at district196.org (Weber, Jason)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:17:08 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
Message-ID: <C450B2F4.1382%Jason.Weber@district196.org>

Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

-- 
Jason Weber
Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196



From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 14 13:23:46 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:23:46 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <C450B2F4.1382%Jason.Weber@district196.org>
Message-ID: <C450B482.A9A7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Jason,


 *   Open up a Casper to a Remote window
 *   Check all the machines you want to send the command to
 *   Go the advanced tab
 *   Enter your command into the Run Command field (check to run as root if necessary)
 *   Click GO

Or you could set it up as a policy to run at next startup or whenever. The top option assumes every machine you want to target will be on and accessible when you hit go.

Craig Ernst
Systems Management & Configuration
----------------------------------
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Learning & Technology Services
105 Garfield Ave
Eau Claire, WI 54701
Phone: (715) 836-3639
Fax: (715) 836-6001
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ernstcs at uwec.edu



On 5/14/08 3:17 PM, "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> wrote:

Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

--
Jason Weber
Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196


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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 14 13:34:40 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
Message-ID: <s82b06b0.064@gwmail.kckps.org>

use that command, create a script, toss it on casper admin, sync it to your JSS, then create a policy that runs that script, voila you are done!

Easy cheesy

I have like, 20 different configuration scripts running as simple policies for things just like that, proxies, preferences, removing unwanted or old software, changing passwords, etc.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> 05/14/08 3:17 PM >>>
Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

-- 
Jason Weber
Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196


_______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper


From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 14 13:37:35 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:37:35 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <s82b06b0.064@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C450B7BF.A9AF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Why make it a script? That's an extra step. Just add that command to the advanced tab of the policy.

Craig

On 5/14/08 3:34 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

use that command, create a script, toss it on casper admin, sync it to your JSS, then create a policy that runs that script, voila you are done!

Easy cheesy

I have like, 20 different configuration scripts running as simple policies for things just like that, proxies, preferences, removing unwanted or old software, changing passwords, etc.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> 05/14/08 3:17 PM >>>
Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

--
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Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196


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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 14 13:54:19 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:54:19 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
Message-ID: <s82b0b3c.013@gwmail.kckps.org>

Call me a beard stroking old school Unix guy, but I like having scripts that I can use to run many configurations at once, instead of manually pipping in codes into the JSS.  Also, I can run several test runs on scripts on a machine locally before I toss it up on the JSS.

Just my method is all.  To each their own.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 05/14/08 3:37 PM >>>
Why make it a script? That's an extra step. Just add that command to the advanced tab of the policy.

Craig

On 5/14/08 3:34 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

use that command, create a script, toss it on casper admin, sync it to your JSS, then create a policy that runs that script, voila you are done!

Easy cheesy

I have like, 20 different configuration scripts running as simple policies for things just like that, proxies, preferences, removing unwanted or old software, changing passwords, etc.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> 05/14/08 3:17 PM >>>
Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

--
Jason Weber
Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 14 14:04:37 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:04:37 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <s82b0b3c.013@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C450BE15.A9B7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Anything beyond a simple one-liner command I can see that. I still use scripts as well. Beard stroking old school Unix guy, nice. I have a beard...

Craig


On 5/14/08 3:54 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

Call me a beard stroking old school Unix guy, but I like having scripts that I can use to run many configurations at once, instead of manually pipping in codes into the JSS.  Also, I can run several test runs on scripts on a machine locally before I toss it up on the JSS.

Just my method is all.  To each their own.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 05/14/08 3:37 PM >>>
Why make it a script? That's an extra step. Just add that command to the advanced tab of the policy.

Craig

On 5/14/08 3:34 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

use that command, create a script, toss it on casper admin, sync it to your JSS, then create a policy that runs that script, voila you are done!

Easy cheesy

I have like, 20 different configuration scripts running as simple policies for things just like that, proxies, preferences, removing unwanted or old software, changing passwords, etc.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> 05/14/08 3:17 PM >>>
Hello all..

We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
trigger a package install or create user accounts.

My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?

Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
not want to copy out a plist.

With ARD I can just send out this command:

networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80

How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??

Any help is much appreciated!

--
Jason Weber
Technology Support Cluster Specialist
Independent School District 196


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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 14 14:11:50 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:11:50 -0400
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <s82b0b3c.013@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C450CDD6.2659%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

....and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or execute
it on demand via Casper remote.

-- 
Miles Leacy
Senior Macintosh Technician
Polo Ralph Lauren
212-318-7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com




On 5/14/08 4:54 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

> Call me a beard stroking old school Unix guy, but I like having scripts that I
> can use to run many configurations at once, instead of manually pipping in
> codes into the JSS.  Also, I can run several test runs on scripts on a machine
> locally before I toss it up on the JSS.
> 
> Just my method is all.  To each their own.
> 
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
>>>> >>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 05/14/08 3:37 PM >>>
> Why make it a script? That's an extra step. Just add that command to the
> advanced tab of the policy.
> 
> Craig
> 
> On 5/14/08 3:34 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
> 
> use that command, create a script, toss it on casper admin, sync it to your
> JSS, then create a policy that runs that script, voila you are done!
> 
> Easy cheesy
> 
> I have like, 20 different configuration scripts running as simple policies for
> things just like that, proxies, preferences, removing unwanted or old
> software, changing passwords, etc.
> 
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
>>>> >>> "Weber, Jason" <Jason.Weber at district196.org> 05/14/08 3:17 PM >>>
> Hello all..
> 
> We've been using Casper here for a few months now, and it's been working
> great. For the most part we have been using packages for any configuration
> and install procedures so have not needed to use scripts much other than to
> trigger a package install or create user accounts.
> 
> My question is, how do you use Casper to send unix commands?
> 
> Example, I would like to change the proxy settings on all my Macs and I do
> not want to copy out a plist.
> 
> With ARD I can just send out this command:
> 
> networksetup -setwebproxy "Built-in Ethernet" proxy.company.com 80
> 
> How would I accomplish this same thing in Casper??
> 
> Any help is much appreciated!
> 
> --
> Jason Weber
> Technology Support Cluster Specialist
> Independent School District 196
> 
> 
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 14 14:15:22 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:15:22 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <C450CDD6.2659%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Message-ID: <C450C09A.A9BD%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

...and to summarize...making the command into a script in the JSS makes it easily reusable in multiple facets of machine management.

On 5/14/08 4:11 PM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:

...and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or execute it on demand via Casper remote.
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From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Wed May 14 14:38:37 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:38:37 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send Unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <C450C09A.A9BD%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C450C60D.2769%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>

I agree, We push all Printers through scripts that way Quark plays nice, we
also update virus defs with scripts.  Bill set up many scripts here and they
are invaluable, sure many of the tasks could be handled through Casper, but
the speed, reliability, flexibility and just plain nerd factor is just
great.  

On 5/14/08 4:15 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> ...and to summarize...making the command into a script in the JSS makes it
> easily reusable in multiple facets of machine management.
> 
> On 5/14/08 4:11 PM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:
> 
>> ...and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or execute
>> it on demand via Casper remote.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
> 
> 
> John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   |  651-632-4072
> 
> 
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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Fri May 16 09:00:45 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:00:45 -0400
Subject: [Casper] How to send Unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <C450C60D.2769%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C45327ED.26AE%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

Do you find that pushing printers via scripts is superior in some ways to
pushing printers using the built-in printer tool in Casper?


On 5/14/08 5:38 PM, "John Brenner" <john.brenner at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

> I agree, We push all Printers through scripts that way Quark plays nice, we
> also update virus defs with scripts.  Bill set up many scripts here and they
> are invaluable, sure many of the tasks could be handled through Casper, but
> the speed, reliability, flexibility and just plain nerd factor is just great.
> 
> On 5/14/08 4:15 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
> 
>> ...and to summarize...making the command into a script in the JSS makes it
>> easily reusable in multiple facets of machine management.
>> 
>> On 5/14/08 4:11 PM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or execute
>>> it on demand via Casper remote.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>> 
>> 
>> John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   |  651-632-4072
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Miles Leacy
>> Senior Macintosh Technician
>> Polo Ralph Lauren
>> 212-318-7603
>> miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com
>> 
>> 







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From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Fri May 16 09:14:24 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:14:24 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send Unix commands via Casper
In-Reply-To: <C45327ED.26AE%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Message-ID: <C4531D10.27BF%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>

Yes Quark does not like cups/gimp drivers and therefore caused issues with
us.  Using lpadmin commands like this
lpadmin -p "tmb_prt44" -L "Richo 9100" -D "tmb_prt44" -E -v
socket://tmbprt44.stp.mrll.com -P
"/Library/Printers/PPDs/Contents/Resources/en.lproj/RICOH Aficio SP 9100DN"
-o Finisher=FinVICTORIA

Worked much better with fewer printing issues down the road.  You can
retrieve the options of a specific PPD by using the lpoptions command. The
options are PPD specific consequently you cant use the same command with
different PPDs and get the results you desire.    This is especially true
when using printers from different vendors.  HP is probably the most
consistent as they do driver dev in house.

On 5/16/08 11:00 AM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:

> Do you find that pushing printers via scripts is superior in some ways to
> pushing printers using the built-in printer tool in Casper?
> 
> 
> On 5/14/08 5:38 PM, "John Brenner" <john.brenner at merrillcorp.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree, We push all Printers through scripts that way Quark plays nice, we
>> also update virus defs with scripts.  Bill set up many scripts here and they
>> are invaluable, sure many of the tasks could be handled through Casper, but
>> the speed, reliability, flexibility and just plain nerd factor is just great.
>> 
>> On 5/14/08 4:15 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...and to summarize...making the command into a script in the JSS makes it
>>> easily reusable in multiple facets of machine management.
>>> 
>>> On 5/14/08 4:11 PM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ...and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or execute
>>>> it on demand via Casper remote.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Casper mailing list
>>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   |  651-632-4072
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Casper mailing list
>>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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>>> 
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Fri May 16 09:36:01 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:36:01 -0500
Subject: [Casper] How to send Unix commands via Casper
Message-ID: <s82d71a5.099@gwmail.kckps.org>

We don't have anything fancy, but typically what I do is set up one
system working with the network printer, then just use ARD admin to copy
the /etc/cups/ppd to all the clients on a subnet and it copies all the
print drivers and settings to each machine.

We use very simple IP printing though, with no print queue or servers
involved and typically only lab computers print to a printer.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> 05/16/08 11:00 AM
>>>
Do you find that pushing printers via scripts is superior in some ways
to
pushing printers using the built-in printer tool in Casper?


On 5/14/08 5:38 PM, "John Brenner" <john.brenner at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

> I agree, We push all Printers through scripts that way Quark plays
nice, we
> also update virus defs with scripts.  Bill set up many scripts here
and they
> are invaluable, sure many of the tasks could be handled through
Casper, but
> the speed, reliability, flexibility and just plain nerd factor is just
great.
> 
> On 5/14/08 4:15 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
> 
>> ...and to summarize...making the command into a script in the JSS
makes it
>> easily reusable in multiple facets of machine management.
>> 
>> On 5/14/08 4:11 PM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com>
wrote:
>> 
>>> ...and if you make it a script, you can add it to configurations or
execute
>>> it on demand via Casper remote.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>> 
>> 
>> John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   | 
651-632-4072
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Miles Leacy
>> Senior Macintosh Technician
>> Polo Ralph Lauren
>> 212-318-7603
>> miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com
>> 
>> 







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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Fri May 16 09:41:11 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:41:11 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
In-Reply-To: <0060F07B-EED4-49AB-957E-D01FD128FA42@sbsd.k12.ca.us>
Message-ID: <C4533167.2710%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

Of course test, test, test and test again, on a system that won?t cause you
any problems if you break it, but here?s what I?d do...

Put together a defaults write script to create these plist entries.  If you
make that script the object of a policy that is triggered at login, with a
frequency of once per user, you will set the preference for each user as
they login without the need to make the change at the system level.

Alternatively, you could package up the plist, and fill existing users (FEU)
and fill user template (FUT).  The upside is that all all current and future
users on the target system will have this setting.  The downside (and this
can be big issue with a plist like LaunchServices) is that all other prefs
contained within the plist will potentially be changed on the target system.

A third alternative would be to create a Launch Services package using the
User Environment tab within Composer and again, FEU and FUT.  If you go this
route, I would recommend creating your Launch Services package using a test
machine that has all of the standard software for your environment installed
and tested.  Further, I?d recommend re-creating your Launch Services package
after adding or removing any software titles to your environment.

I hope this helps.


On 5/13/08 3:00 PM, "Dan Peterka" <dpeterka at sbsd.k12.ca.us> wrote:

> The Open using Rosetta setting modifies the file:
> ?~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist
> 
> defaults read com.apple.LaunchServices shows an entry:
> 
> ?? ?LSPrefsFatApplications = {
> ?? ? ? ?"com.apple.Safari" = (
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?<00000000 009a0003 00010000 c323458f 0000482b 00000000 00000023
> 0000727b 0000c2b0 8b4e0000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001
> 00040000 0023000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061 00720069 002e0061 00700070
> 000f0014 00090053 00650072 00760065 00720020 00480044 00120017 4170706c
> 69636174 696f6e73 2f536166 6172692e 61707000 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>
> 
> that corresponds to what is seen using Property List Editor. When the button
> is clicked off, this entry disappears.?
> 
> Two problems: 1) How to get this to be happen at the system level and 2) how
> to set it using the command line.?
> 
> I don't know what the data between the <...>'s is. It is the same between
> users and between toggling Rosetta on and off, and the LSPrefsFatApplications
> entry in Tiger is replaced by a much different LSArchitecturesForX86_64 entry
> in Leopard:
> 
> ?? ?"LSArchitecturesForX86_64" = ? ? {
> ?? ? ? ?"com.apple.Safari" = ? ? ? ? (
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?<00000000 00a00003 00010000 c3ecd416 0000482b 00000000 000000a0
> 00028d9a 0000c2f1 13950000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001
> 00040000 00a0000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061 00720069 002e0061 00700070
> 000f001a 000c004d 00610063 0069006e 0074006f 00730068 00200048 00440012
> 00174170 706c6963 6174696f 6e732f53 61666172 692e6170 70000013 00012f00
> ffff0000>,
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?ppc,
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?<00000000 00960003 00010000 c44f641c 0000482b 00000000 0000005c
> 0000be47 0000c440 fd790000 00000920 fffe0000 00000000 0000ffff ffff0001
> 00040000 005c000e 0016000a 00530061 00660061 00720069 002e0061 00700070
> 000f0010 0007004e 00650074 0042006f 006f0074 00120017 4170706c 69636174
> 696f6e73 2f536166 6172692e 61707000 00130001 2f00ffff 0000>,
> ?? ? ? ? ? ?ppc
> ?? ? ? ?);
> ?? ?};
> 
>  
> Dan Peterka
>  
> 
> On May 13, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Leacy, Miles (US) wrote:
> 
>> I don't know the answer, but the way I'd find it is to get a 'new and
>> modified' snapshot via Composer before Rosetta is enabled, then enable
>> Rosetta, then launch the app, then quit the app, then build the package in
>> Composer and examine the changed files that relate to the app in question, or
>> possibly launch services in this case.
>> 
>> If the desired file is a plist, as I imagine it would be in this case, I'd
>> find the operative key(s) and use a 'defaults write' script rather than
>> packaging the plist to avoid altering undesired settings.?
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> <casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
>> To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
>> Sent: Mon May 12 19:12:51 2008
>> Subject: [Casper] Shockwave and Rosetta - still need a command
>> 
>> The application misbehaves with Shockwave 11, and the Shockwave XTRA plugin
>> (a plugin to a plugin?) that allows printing from Shockwave either does not
>> work with Shockwave 11, or does not work without rosetta enabled. Either way,
>> it doesn't work.
>> 
>> For now, it has to be Shockwave 10 in Rosetta mode. So, how can I enable
>> rosetta in the Get Info box without touching each computer?
>> 
>> Dan Peterka
>> 
>> 
>> I am looking for a solution to enable Rosetta for Safari and Firefox
>> usingl a command line on Intel Macs. We are looking at a product that
>> requgires Shockwave with another plug-in module that forces us to run the
>> rbrowser in Rosetta mode.
>> 
>> Dan Peterka
>> 


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From Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us  Mon May 19 06:34:37 2008
From: Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us (Shawn Surma)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:34:37 -0400
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
In-Reply-To: <mailman.352076.1210799544.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
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We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server for
the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?  
If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it up
to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
the packages will that help?

Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
        Shawn


Liverpool Central School District
Computer Services
Liverpool, NY 13090
(315) 622-7150

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon May 19 06:51:35 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:51:35 -0500
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
Message-ID: <s8313fb0.011@gwmail.kckps.org>

I am getting read to do a mass image of about 6,000 Macs over the
Summer.  At my previous job last year I helped reimage 10,000 machines
(mostly windows boxes) over our Summer break.  I wrote a simple shell
script with Zen Imaging (Novell) that ran at netboot and automated a lot
of the steps needed to reimage a machine.  

I have found it best practice if you are going to do this, just go ahead
and buy a few big "dumb" switches, with no management on them at all. 
Hook your machines up to the "dumb" switch and start to netboot.  With
things like Port Fast and Spanning Tree I think you definitely get
overhead from your managed switches.  We were unicasting everything
since we could never get multicasting to quite work right (mainly due to
the managed switches making it take longer).  

We didn't have time to fuss with it so we just unicasted machines. 
10,000 over a 2.5 month period isn't too shabby.

This year I plan on doing the same.  Getting an area where I can run
power and a dumb switch and reimage like 50 at a time with very simple
non managed networking.  

Also, if you are using a lower spec machine that is unicasting say, 20+
connections pushing out a 6+ gig image it is going to take a while. 
Since each connection will take up resources from the netboot server.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> 05/19/08 8:34 AM >>>
We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server for
the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?  
If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
up
to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
the packages will that help?

Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
        Shawn


Liverpool Central School District
Computer Services
Liverpool, NY 13090
(315) 622-7150

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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Mon May 19 11:10:30 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:10:30 -0500
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
In-Reply-To: <s8313fb0.011@gwmail.kckps.org>
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We image 8 or so at a time in about 45 minutes for all of them.  It doesn't
seem to increase time that much when we add more computers b/c it seems
that the network is the bottle neck as no single client is maxing out the
afp copy pull when it is in file copy mode.  We have a JSS on one server
and the main CasperShare on a second server and the CasperShare is on a
RAID.  Both servers are on a gigabit switch and the clients are off that at
100 mb.  Block copy can be up to 40 - 50 Mb/s and then file copy drops
down.  We Netboot off a 3rd server that has lots of RAM on the same gigabit
switch.

I'm curious to see if a "dumb" switch would change our time, that is
curious to me.   Maybe I'll try it this summer.
-Nathaniel



Nathaniel Lindley

++++++++++++++++++
Learning Systems Specialist
Educational Technology
Saint Paul Public Schools
Saint Paul, Minnesota
nathaniel.lindley at spps.org
phone:  651-603-4929


                                                                           
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                                       via NetBoot- Casper                 
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I am getting read to do a mass image of about 6,000 Macs over the
Summer.  At my previous job last year I helped reimage 10,000 machines
(mostly windows boxes) over our Summer break.  I wrote a simple shell
script with Zen Imaging (Novell) that ran at netboot and automated a lot
of the steps needed to reimage a machine.

I have found it best practice if you are going to do this, just go ahead
and buy a few big "dumb" switches, with no management on them at all.
Hook your machines up to the "dumb" switch and start to netboot.  With
things like Port Fast and Spanning Tree I think you definitely get
overhead from your managed switches.  We were unicasting everything
since we could never get multicasting to quite work right (mainly due to
the managed switches making it take longer).

We didn't have time to fuss with it so we just unicasted machines.
10,000 over a 2.5 month period isn't too shabby.

This year I plan on doing the same.  Getting an area where I can run
power and a dumb switch and reimage like 50 at a time with very simple
non managed networking.

Also, if you are using a lower spec machine that is unicasting say, 20+
connections pushing out a 6+ gig image it is going to take a while.
Since each connection will take up resources from the netboot server.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> 05/19/08 8:34 AM >>>
We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server for
the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
up
to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
the packages will that help?

Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
        Shawn


Liverpool Central School District
Computer Services
Liverpool, NY 13090
(315) 622-7150

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From swood at integerdallas.com  Mon May 19 11:23:41 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:23:41 -0500
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
In-Reply-To: <OF53CFE385.D82C0251-ON8625744E.00638986-8625744E.0063F40C@spps.org>
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The only problem I've found at times using an un-managed switch is the  
amount of time it takes a link to come alive without PortFast.  I've  
seen NetBoot fail because the switch did not activate the link fast  
enough.  I've used the HP ProCurve 1400 switch before with great  
success.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 19, 2008, at 1:10 PM, NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org wrote:

>
> We image 8 or so at a time in about 45 minutes for all of them.  It  
> doesn't
> seem to increase time that much when we add more computers b/c it  
> seems
> that the network is the bottle neck as no single client is maxing  
> out the
> afp copy pull when it is in file copy mode.  We have a JSS on one  
> server
> and the main CasperShare on a second server and the CasperShare is  
> on a
> RAID.  Both servers are on a gigabit switch and the clients are off  
> that at
> 100 mb.  Block copy can be up to 40 - 50 Mb/s and then file copy drops
> down.  We Netboot off a 3rd server that has lots of RAM on the same  
> gigabit
> switch.
>
> I'm curious to see if a "dumb" switch would change our time, that is
> curious to me.   Maybe I'll try it this summer.
> -Nathaniel
>
>
>
> Nathaniel Lindley
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
> Learning Systems Specialist
> Educational Technology
> Saint Paul Public Schools
> Saint Paul, Minnesota
> nathaniel.lindley at spps.org
> phone:  651-603-4929
>
>
>
>             "Thomas Larkin"
>             <tlarki at kckps.org
>>                                                         To
>             Sent by:                  <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
>             casper- 
> bounces at li                                          cc
>             st.jamfsoftware.c         Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us
>             om                                                     
> Subject
>                                       Re: [Casper] imaging a large  
> group
>                                       via NetBoot- Casper
>             05/19/08 08:51 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am getting read to do a mass image of about 6,000 Macs over the
> Summer.  At my previous job last year I helped reimage 10,000 machines
> (mostly windows boxes) over our Summer break.  I wrote a simple shell
> script with Zen Imaging (Novell) that ran at netboot and automated a  
> lot
> of the steps needed to reimage a machine.
>
> I have found it best practice if you are going to do this, just go  
> ahead
> and buy a few big "dumb" switches, with no management on them at all.
> Hook your machines up to the "dumb" switch and start to netboot.  With
> things like Port Fast and Spanning Tree I think you definitely get
> overhead from your managed switches.  We were unicasting everything
> since we could never get multicasting to quite work right (mainly  
> due to
> the managed switches making it take longer).
>
> We didn't have time to fuss with it so we just unicasted machines.
> 10,000 over a 2.5 month period isn't too shabby.
>
> This year I plan on doing the same.  Getting an area where I can run
> power and a dumb switch and reimage like 50 at a time with very simple
> non managed networking.
>
> Also, if you are using a lower spec machine that is unicasting say,  
> 20+
> connections pushing out a 6+ gig image it is going to take a while.
> Since each connection will take up resources from the netboot server.
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
>>>> "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> 05/19/08 8:34 AM  
>>>> >>>
> We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server  
> for
> the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image  
> MacBooks
> out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
> If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
> up
> to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers  
> for
> the packages will that help?
>
> Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>        Shawn
>
>
> Liverpool Central School District
> Computer Services
> Liverpool, NY 13090
> (315) 622-7150
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From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Mon May 19 11:35:43 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:35:43 -0500
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
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What's the infrastructure?  switches? servers?


On 5/19/08 8:34 AM, "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> wrote:

> We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server for
> the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
> out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
> If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it up
> to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
> the packages will that help?
> 
> Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
>         Shawn
> 
> 
> Liverpool Central School District
> Computer Services
> Liverpool, NY 13090
> (315) 622-7150
> 
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon May 19 11:47:24 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Casper] imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
Message-ID: <s83184fe.016@gwmail.kckps.org>

I have seen this exact thing, if you boot holding down the opt key
instead of N, it will give you the netboot server option to boot from,
but you may need to wait an extra 10 to 15 seconds.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> 05/19/08 1:23 PM >>>
The only problem I've found at times using an un-managed switch is the  
amount of time it takes a link to come alive without PortFast.  I've  
seen NetBoot fail because the switch did not activate the link fast  
enough.  I've used the HP ProCurve 1400 switch before with great  
success.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 19, 2008, at 1:10 PM, NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org wrote:

>
> We image 8 or so at a time in about 45 minutes for all of them.  It  
> doesn't
> seem to increase time that much when we add more computers b/c it  
> seems
> that the network is the bottle neck as no single client is maxing  
> out the
> afp copy pull when it is in file copy mode.  We have a JSS on one  
> server
> and the main CasperShare on a second server and the CasperShare is  
> on a
> RAID.  Both servers are on a gigabit switch and the clients are off  
> that at
> 100 mb.  Block copy can be up to 40 - 50 Mb/s and then file copy drops
> down.  We Netboot off a 3rd server that has lots of RAM on the same  
> gigabit
> switch.
>
> I'm curious to see if a "dumb" switch would change our time, that is
> curious to me.   Maybe I'll try it this summer.
> -Nathaniel
>
>
>
> Nathaniel Lindley
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
> Learning Systems Specialist
> Educational Technology
> Saint Paul Public Schools
> Saint Paul, Minnesota
> nathaniel.lindley at spps.org
> phone:  651-603-4929
>
>
>
>             "Thomas Larkin"
>             <tlarki at kckps.org
>>                                                         To
>             Sent by:                  <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
>             casper- 
> bounces at li                                          cc
>             st.jamfsoftware.c         Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us
>             om                                                     
> Subject
>                                       Re: [Casper] imaging a large  
> group
>                                       via NetBoot- Casper
>             05/19/08 08:51 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am getting read to do a mass image of about 6,000 Macs over the
> Summer.  At my previous job last year I helped reimage 10,000 machines
> (mostly windows boxes) over our Summer break.  I wrote a simple shell
> script with Zen Imaging (Novell) that ran at netboot and automated a  
> lot
> of the steps needed to reimage a machine.
>
> I have found it best practice if you are going to do this, just go  
> ahead
> and buy a few big "dumb" switches, with no management on them at all.
> Hook your machines up to the "dumb" switch and start to netboot.  With
> things like Port Fast and Spanning Tree I think you definitely get
> overhead from your managed switches.  We were unicasting everything
> since we could never get multicasting to quite work right (mainly  
> due to
> the managed switches making it take longer).
>
> We didn't have time to fuss with it so we just unicasted machines.
> 10,000 over a 2.5 month period isn't too shabby.
>
> This year I plan on doing the same.  Getting an area where I can run
> power and a dumb switch and reimage like 50 at a time with very simple
> non managed networking.
>
> Also, if you are using a lower spec machine that is unicasting say,  
> 20+
> connections pushing out a 6+ gig image it is going to take a while.
> Since each connection will take up resources from the netboot server.
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
>>>> "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> 05/19/08 8:34 AM  
>>>> >>>
> We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server  
> for
> the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image  
> MacBooks
> out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
> If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
> up
> to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers  
> for
> the packages will that help?
>
> Any ideas, suggestions or hints would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>        Shawn
>
>
> Liverpool Central School District
> Computer Services
> Liverpool, NY 13090
> (315) 622-7150
>
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From Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com  Tue May 20 13:13:34 2008
From: Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com (Jesse Almanrode)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:13:34 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CS3 Install Error
Message-ID: <C4588D0E.76D5%Jesse.Almanrode@cabelas.com>

Has anyone seen this error while using the new Adobe CS3 installers with
Casper?


Error: Adobe Installation Error: Unable to complete the silent workflow
(Exit Code 7).


This error has happened on both Illustrator and InDesign from  a CS3 Design
Professional Disk image.  I am currently trying to install it on a Mirror
Door G4 running 10.4.8.

I have tried installing it a few different ways... Locally on the box using
Casper remote as well as on a different box using Casper remote while the
workstation is sitting at the login window.

Any ideas?


   ---<o><o><o>---
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MIS Technical Services
Cabela?s Inc.
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From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Wed May 21 05:20:24 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:20:24 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CS3 Install Error
In-Reply-To: <C4588D0E.76D5%Jesse.Almanrode@cabelas.com>
Message-ID: <C4597DD7.2D3B%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>

Yes I have, it?s when parts of CS3 exist prior to installation.  Usually
caused by Acrobat 8 as it isn?t installed using the cs3 installer


On 5/20/08 3:13 PM, "Jesse Almanrode" <Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com> wrote:

> Has anyone seen this error while using the new Adobe CS3 installers with
> Casper?
> 
> 
> Error: Adobe Installation Error: Unable to complete the silent workflow (Exit
> Code 7).
> 
> 
> This error has happened on both Illustrator and InDesign from  a CS3 Design
> Professional Disk image.  I am currently trying to install it on a Mirror Door
> G4 running 10.4.8.
> 
> I have tried installing it a few different ways... Locally on the box using
> Casper remote as well as on a different box using Casper remote while the
> workstation is sitting at the login window.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
>    ---<o><o><o>---
> Jesse Almanrode
> ?Sr. Systems Specialist?
> MIS Technical Services
> Cabela?s Inc.
> 308-255-2625
> jhalmanr at cabelas.com
> 
> 
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From wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed May 21 05:53:34 2008
From: wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Wylie Horn)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:53:34 +0100
Subject: [Casper] CS3 Install Error
In-Reply-To: <C4597DD7.2D3B%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>
References: <C4597DD7.2D3B%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <2AA6771C-E0ED-4636-A49B-70B3CD071AC7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

I've seen this too.  I had to remove all traces of the existing Adobe  
apps in order to intall the complete CS3 suite including Acrobat.

Wylie

On 21 May 2008, at 13:20, John Brenner wrote:

> Yes I have, it?s when parts of CS3 exist prior to installation.   
> Usually caused by Acrobat 8 as it isn?t installed using the cs3  
> installer
>
>
> On 5/20/08 3:13 PM, "Jesse Almanrode" <Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone seen this error while using the new Adobe CS3 installers  
>> with Casper?
>>
>>
>> Error: Adobe Installation Error: Unable to complete the silent  
>> workflow (Exit Code 7).
>>
>>
>> This error has happened on both Illustrator and InDesign from  a  
>> CS3 Design Professional Disk image.  I am currently trying to  
>> install it on a Mirror Door G4 running 10.4.8.
>>
>> I have tried installing it a few different ways... Locally on the  
>> box using Casper remote as well as on a different box using Casper  
>> remote while the workstation is sitting at the login window.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>   ---<o><o><o>---
>> Jesse Almanrode
>> ?Sr. Systems Specialist?
>> MIS Technical Services
>> Cabela?s Inc.
>> 308-255-2625
>> jhalmanr at cabelas.com
>>
>>
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From Dustin.Dorey at district196.org  Thu May 22 08:32:35 2008
From: Dustin.Dorey at district196.org (Dorey, Dustin)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:35 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper
Message-ID: <DFFCE7044F8AFF41AB2262F92C782162076E97D2@do-mail03.district196.org>

Hello everybody!

 

I was curious how people are handling installing Sophos Anti Virus.
What we are running into here is that it needs to run the installer to
create a unique install on each machine.   Any ideas, suggestions, or
just let me know if I'm missing something glaring an I need to hang my
head in shame.  

Thanks!

 

Dustin Dorey

Technology Support Cluster Specialist

ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan

14445 Diamond Path West

Rosemount, MN 55068

(952) 423-7971

dustin.dorey at district196.org

 

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Thu May 22 08:39:51 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:39:51 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946A7@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

I don't use Sophos, but possible solutions could be:

* add the manufacturer's .pkg to your JSS rather than creating a .dmg package.  Hopefully the manufacturer supports an answer file for any user input that might be necessary.

* create a script to perform the installation, you can get the .pkg to the target machine(s) via a package, file copy, or ARD push.


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To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Thu May 22 11:32:35 2008
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper

Hello everybody!

 

I was curious how people are handling installing Sophos Anti Virus.    What we are running into here is that it needs to run the installer to create a unique install on each machine.   Any ideas, suggestions, or just let me know if I?m missing something glaring an I need to hang my head in shame.  

Thanks!

 

Dustin Dorey

Technology Support Cluster Specialist

ISD 196 Apple Valley, Rosemount, Eagan

14445 Diamond Path West

Rosemount, MN 55068

(952) 423-7971

dustin.dorey at district196.org

 







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From ganderson at phrd.ab.ca  Thu May 22 08:40:04 2008
From: ganderson at phrd.ab.ca (Gene Anderson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:40:04 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper
In-Reply-To: <DFFCE7044F8AFF41AB2262F92C782162076E97D2@do-mail03.district196.org>
References: <DFFCE7044F8AFF41AB2262F92C782162076E97D2@do-mail03.district196.org>
Message-ID: <fc.000f4ccf01b6ac9e3b9aca004c6816cc.1b6ad9f@phrd.ab.ca>

"Dorey, Dustin" <Dustin.Dorey at district196.org> writes:
>I was curious how people are handling installing Sophos Anti Virus.   
>What we are running into here is that it needs to run the installer to
>create a unique install on each machine.   Any ideas, suggestions, or
>just let me know if I?m missing something glaring an I need to hang my
>head in shame.  

We had just done a Composer snapshot of the install and the package seems
to work just fine. We're using version 4.9 of the Sophos client for Mac.



Gene Anderson
Systems Analyst, Microsoft Certified Professional
Pembina Hills Regional Division No.7
Phone: (780) 674-8535 ext 6860
email: ganderson at phrd.ab.ca

"Passwords are like bubble gum, strongest when fresh, should never be
used by groups and create a sticky mess when left laying around"

-anon



From Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us  Thu May 22 08:45:33 2008
From: Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us (Shawn Surma)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:45:33 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Subject: Re:  imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
In-Reply-To: <mailman.378035.1211470467.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.378035.1211470467.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <fc.000f71460348c5123b9aca002059e5b4.348c56a@liverpool.k12.ny.us>

casper at list.jamfsoftware.com writes:
>What's the infrastructure?  switches? servers?
>
>
>On 5/19/08 8:34 AM, "Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> wrote:
>
>> We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server for
>> the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
>> out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
>> If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
>u p
>> to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
>> the packages will that help?
>> 
Sorry I did not elaborate: we are using Cisco switches (only 100 meg not
gig) and all servers are either G5 xServes or in the case of the jss/afp
server intel quad core.

Thanks,
        Shawn


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From ganderson at phrd.ab.ca  Thu May 22 08:51:13 2008
From: ganderson at phrd.ab.ca (Gene Anderson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:51:13 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Subject: Re: imaging a large group via NetBoot- Casper
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f71460348c5123b9aca002059e5b4.348c56a@liverpool.k12.ny.us>
References: <mailman.378035.1211470467.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com> <,>
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"Shawn Surma" <Shawn_Surma at liverpool.k12.ny.us> writes:
>>> We are using Casper with a Netboot server and only one Casper server
>for
>>> the packages.  It seems to be taking a very long time to image MacBooks
>>> out of the box.  What kind of numbers has anyone else been getting?
>>> If I do just 1 or 2 it will complete in about 45 minutes, if I step it
>>u p
>>> to more than 7 the time goes to over 3 hours. If I add more servers for
>>> the packages will that help?
>>> 
>Sorry I did not elaborate: we are using Cisco switches (only 100 meg not
>gig) and all servers are either G5 xServes or in the case of the jss/afp
>server intel quad core.

I've seen the exact same performance with a 100MB network using an
XserveG5. I had wondered if I needed to upgrade my network to Gigabit to
boost my performance.

 Is anyone imaging via NetBoot on GigE?



Gene Anderson
Systems Analyst, Microsoft Certified Professional
Pembina Hills Regional Division No.7
Phone: (780) 674-8535 ext 6860
email: ganderson at phrd.ab.ca

"Passwords are like bubble gum, strongest when fresh, should never be
used by groups and create a sticky mess when left laying around"

-anon



From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 22 09:03:04 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:03:04 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Inventory options [Feature Request]
Message-ID: <s8355307.076@gwmail.kckps.org>

Inventory is currently happening, and we are hand counting 6,000 macs to
match our records.  I am getting some mismatches with some student
laptops and what I have in inventory.  I have been using the JSS/Casper
inventory system to see what users were logged in last and its last
check in time and other things to try to figure out how some machines
got swapped around.

I would like to possibly see a few things happen in Casper, and please
anyone else who has done this add your input too!

1)  In inventory have fields where you can assign a machine to a
specific user in your OD.  I know it lists the local user accounts, but
I would like to have it assign asset tags to users.  So, if I need to
assign one I can say here is your laptop, scan in some bar codes (we
have bar code label printers) and input the information into a web based
form and have the JSS track it.  Then I can track it via the JSS
database, and it could be centralized.

2)  I would also like it to keep a more robust history, or have the
option to, on users that log in on that machine.  If someone is logging
in to a machine that is not theirs a lot I would like to know.

3)  email notifications.  We have a few machines that checked in once to
the JSS and never again all year.  We were never notified on some of
these.  A lot of them were locked in a laptop cabinet for whatever
reason and never used, but I would at least like to have some sort of
record.  Like if a machine doesn't check in for say 3 weeks in a row, it
gets tossed in a smart group with other machines that have not checked
in, and an email can be sent to whomever to help track that down.  

4)  Access, I know that JSS has tiered access, but I would like to give
some people access to just inventory, and have them gain all access
needed to the JSS for inventory.  I am sure this feature may already
exist, I just haven't fully explored it yet.

5)  Printable templates that will print out Asset tag, serial number,
user it belongs to, and model.  That way we can tag those machines with
those print outs when we do mass collections for reimaging.  Then be
able to sort printable lists by alphabetical order, asset tag, serial,
whatever.  So, I can take the one sheet and toss it on the macbook
physically and it would display who it belongs to, and then I could take
the list and toss it on the shelf or cart holding all the
laptops/desktops.  Organizing thousands of machines is tedious and right
now I am hand typing this stuff, and if the JSS could automate it, I
would buy it a beer if computers actually drank.

Thoughts, suggestions, or otherwise?

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:27:15 -0400
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Thu May 22 09:41:55 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Inventory options [Feature Request]
In-Reply-To: <s8355307.076@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C45B0C83.AD9B%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Tom,

I'll comment on a few of your suggestions, and I'll try to make it quick.

1) I could be off on this, but you'll have to forgive me since I don't use OD. If you go into the Admin tab and add your OD server to the list of LDAP servers can you not search by username on the Location tab for a piece of hardware to match and then stick? Here with AD we do that. We have the AD server set in Admin. When the box is Recon after the very first time it's imaged out of the box we enter in our asset tag number, and then go to the location tab, enter the username have it search and then select the correct user from AD. That piece of hardware now has that specific AD ID assigned to it, so even as that user moves offices/buildings or changes their name (gets married) the information is dynamic (somewhat). Perhaps it works the same for OD...or I'm totally not getting what you are saying. =)

3) I had put in a similar request for this. I have a smart group of machines that haven't talked in 90 days (90 days because sometimes faculty are gone all summer). You can't have it do notifications on changes like that. I asked that they figure out a way to do that even though "it may be difficult programmatically". This way I have an automatic nudge to check on a box. Realistically...90 days is still too long.

4) I've kept saying to them in the past to have a lot more granularity to rights. For example, if you wanted to allow someone work in inventory to cleanup old hardware, delete items, they also had to have access to the admin tab (that was probably a bug back then). Another is license info. If you wanted an employee who strictly works on tracking software licenses or data entry for it, they also had to have access to the admin tab (if memory serves). I also wanted to tighten up options in Casper imaging. Users can ONLY image a machine using this conifg...no option for a blank one.

Then there was the one thing I want to add:

1) In the logs locally I'd like to see usernames of who did what to a machine. If JOHN DOE imaged this box it should say it in the log. I also wanted the ability to get a notification or copy of the log generated from an imaging process. If a machine gets imaged I want a log of what they installed and who did it when in my email. It's a little big brother, but I'd much rather have an awareness of how often people are imaging machines and why.

So that's what I got for ya...I haven't seen ver 6 yet, but hopefully we'll see some of this stuff someday.

Craig

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From mcorippo at lblp.com  Thu May 22 10:44:42 2008
From: mcorippo at lblp.com (mcorippo)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:44:42 -0700
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f4ccf01b6ac9e3b9aca004c6816cc.1b6ad9f@phrd.ab.ca>
References: <DFFCE7044F8AFF41AB2262F92C782162076E97D2@do-mail03.district196.org>
	<,> <fc.000f4ccf01b6ac9e3b9aca004c6816cc.1b6ad9f@phrd.ab.ca>
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"Gene Anderson" <ganderson at phrd.ab.ca> writes:
>"Dorey, Dustin" <Dustin.Dorey at district196.org> writes:
>>I was curious how people are handling installing Sophos Anti Virus.   
>>What we are running into here is that it needs to run the installer to
>>create a unique install on each machine.   Any ideas, suggestions, or
>>just let me know if I?m missing something glaring an I need to hang my
>>head in shame.  
>
>We had just done a Composer snapshot of the install and the package seems
>to work just fine. We're using version 4.9 of the Sophos client for Mac.
>
>
Same for us (Composer snapshot), and it seems to be fine.  On a previous image, we installed Sophos on the base OS image.  Not as flexible, but worked OK as we would put Sophos on every box, and the config was
always the same, so all we really lost was the option to easily uninstall.

Thanks,
Matt Corippo
Lindamood-Bell Learning Processes


From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Thu May 22 10:57:12 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:57:12 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Inventory options [Feature Request]
In-Reply-To: <C45B0C83.AD9B%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <OFA5989946.971D2C50-ON86257451.00625FCB-86257451.0062BC55@spps.org>


I like these ideas for tracking, but don't know how much I would be able to
use.  I'm going to try the AD plugin/search as we are moving to AD for
Staff and Students next fall.  Thanks for the tip Craig.  I may have more
questions as we get closer.

One thing I might like to see in the Logs is the history of IP addresses.
I'd like to see of some laptops are taken home and never brought back to
school or if they go back and forth, etc.  Just a simple log of the IP a
client connected with.

-NAthaniel



                                                                           
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Hi Tom,

I'll comment on a few of your suggestions, and I'll try to make it quick.

1) I could be off on this, but you'll have to forgive me since I don't use
OD. If you go into the Admin tab and add your OD server to the list of LDAP
servers can you not search by username on the Location tab for a piece of
hardware to match and then stick? Here with AD we do that. We have the AD
server set in Admin. When the box is Recon after the very first time it's
imaged out of the box we enter in our asset tag number, and then go to the
location tab, enter the username have it search and then select the correct
user from AD. That piece of hardware now has that specific AD ID assigned
to it, so even as that user moves offices/buildings or changes their name
(gets married) the information is dynamic (somewhat). Perhaps it works the
same for OD...or I'm totally not getting what you are saying. =)

3) I had put in a similar request for this. I have a smart group of
machines that haven't talked in 90 days (90 days because sometimes faculty
are gone all summer). You can't have it do notifications on changes like
that. I asked that they figure out a way to do that even though "it may be
difficult programmatically". This way I have an automatic nudge to check on
a box. Realistically...90 days is still too long.

4) I've kept saying to them in the past to have a lot more granularity to
rights. For example, if you wanted to allow someone work in inventory to
cleanup old hardware, delete items, they also had to have access to the
admin tab (that was probably a bug back then). Another is license info. If
you wanted an employee who strictly works on tracking software licenses or
data entry for it, they also had to have access to the admin tab (if memory
serves). I also wanted to tighten up options in Casper imaging. Users can
ONLY image a machine using this conifg...no option for a blank one.

Then there was the one thing I want to add:

1) In the logs locally I'd like to see usernames of who did what to a
machine. If JOHN DOE imaged this box it should say it in the log. I also
wanted the ability to get a notification or copy of the log generated from
an imaging process. If a machine gets imaged I want a log of what they
installed and who did it when in my email. It's a little big brother, but
I'd much rather have an awareness of how often people are imaging machines
and why.

So that's what I got for ya...I haven't seen ver 6 yet, but hopefully we'll
see some of this stuff someday.

Craig
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 22 11:12:31 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:12:31 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Inventory options [Feature Request]
Message-ID: <s8357159.011@gwmail.kckps.org>

We use CompuTrace on all laptops since they do get taken home.  It logs
and tracks the IPs.

I am not quite sure exactly how it works because all I ever have to do
is install it, then management makes sure it works.  

I think we had recovered quite a few laptops with it so far this year.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> <NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org> 05/22/08 12:57 PM >>>

I like these ideas for tracking, but don't know how much I would be able
to
use.  I'm going to try the AD plugin/search as we are moving to AD for
Staff and Students next fall.  Thanks for the tip Craig.  I may have
more
questions as we get closer.

One thing I might like to see in the Logs is the history of IP
addresses.
I'd like to see of some laptops are taken home and never brought back to
school or if they go back and forth, etc.  Just a simple log of the IP a
client connected with.

-NAthaniel



                                                                        
  
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Hi Tom,

I'll comment on a few of your suggestions, and I'll try to make it
quick.

1) I could be off on this, but you'll have to forgive me since I don't
use
OD. If you go into the Admin tab and add your OD server to the list of
LDAP
servers can you not search by username on the Location tab for a piece
of
hardware to match and then stick? Here with AD we do that. We have the
AD
server set in Admin. When the box is Recon after the very first time
it's
imaged out of the box we enter in our asset tag number, and then go to
the
location tab, enter the username have it search and then select the
correct
user from AD. That piece of hardware now has that specific AD ID
assigned
to it, so even as that user moves offices/buildings or changes their
name
(gets married) the information is dynamic (somewhat). Perhaps it works
the
same for OD...or I'm totally not getting what you are saying. =)

3) I had put in a similar request for this. I have a smart group of
machines that haven't talked in 90 days (90 days because sometimes
faculty
are gone all summer). You can't have it do notifications on changes like
that. I asked that they figure out a way to do that even though "it may
be
difficult programmatically". This way I have an automatic nudge to check
on
a box. Realistically...90 days is still too long.

4) I've kept saying to them in the past to have a lot more granularity
to
rights. For example, if you wanted to allow someone work in inventory to
cleanup old hardware, delete items, they also had to have access to the
admin tab (that was probably a bug back then). Another is license info.
If
you wanted an employee who strictly works on tracking software licenses
or
data entry for it, they also had to have access to the admin tab (if
memory
serves). I also wanted to tighten up options in Casper imaging. Users
can
ONLY image a machine using this conifg...no option for a blank one.

Then there was the one thing I want to add:

1) In the logs locally I'd like to see usernames of who did what to a
machine. If JOHN DOE imaged this box it should say it in the log. I also
wanted the ability to get a notification or copy of the log generated
from
an imaging process. If a machine gets imaged I want a log of what they
installed and who did it when in my email. It's a little big brother,
but
I'd much rather have an awareness of how often people are imaging
machines
and why.

So that's what I got for ya...I haven't seen ver 6 yet, but hopefully
we'll
see some of this stuff someday.

Craig
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From Quade_Boman at beavton.k12.or.us  Thu May 22 11:49:12 2008
From: Quade_Boman at beavton.k12.or.us (Quade Boman)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:49:12 -0700
Subject: [Casper] Sophos Install via Casper
Message-ID: <fc.004c4c310b170770004c4c310b170770.b172db4@beavton.k12.or.us>

Hello,

We are using Sophos, however it is their Endpoint Security and Control
Suite.  In this configuration all the clients report to a central server,
which means that every client installation has to be unique (the installer
creates a unique ID on first install).  If you do a simple snapshot to
create the package the ID will not be unique on all of the Macs you
distribute the package to which can cause issues with reporting and
updating within Sophos.  There are 2 ways to solve this:  Remove the
unique ID file before completing the snapshot package creation, or just
use your custom .pkg installer.  According to Sophos, they preferred us to
use the .pkg.  If you want to apply the custom .pkg installer while
re-imaging you will have to create a new trigger that will specifically
run the .pkg the next time the machine reboots after imaging.  It doesn't
work correctly unless you're booted off of the target hard drive.  That is
the methodology we are using and it seems to work pretty well.




>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:44:42 -0700
>From: "mcorippo" <mcorippo at lblp.com>
>Subject: Re: [Casper] Sophos Intsall via Casper
>To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>Message-ID: <fc.006ad22901a3562c3b9aca004c6816cc.1a35ac8 at lblp.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>"Gene Anderson" <ganderson at phrd.ab.ca> writes:
>>"Dorey, Dustin" <Dustin.Dorey at district196.org> writes:
>>>I was curious how people are handling installing Sophos Anti Virus.   
>>>What we are running into here is that it needs to run the installer to
>>>create a unique install on each machine.   Any ideas, suggestions, or
>>>just let me know if I?m missing something glaring an I need to hang my
>>>head in shame.  
>>
>>We had just done a Composer snapshot of the install and the package seems
>>to work just fine. We're using version 4.9 of the Sophos client for Mac.
>>
>>
>Same for us (Composer snapshot), and it seems to be fine.  On a previous
>image, we installed Sophos on the base OS image.  Not as flexible, but
>worked OK as we would put Sophos on every box, and the config was
>always the same, so all we really lost was the option to easily uninstall.
>
>Thanks,
>Matt Corippo
>Lindamood-Bell Learning Processes
>
>
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From tjfrancais at gmail.com  Tue May 27 09:57:32 2008
From: tjfrancais at gmail.com (Tom Francais)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:57:32 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Acrobat CS3 Updates
In-Reply-To: <OFF593522B.8731DC02-ON862573B8.007A8819-862573B8.007B1B13@lionresources.com>
References: <OFF593522B.8731DC02-ON862573B8.007A8819-862573B8.007B1B13@lionresources.com>
Message-ID: <66ABF22F-D6A1-45BA-ADC8-62F1A13164B4@gmail.com>

I've found Casper 5.13 doesn't recognize Acrobat updates as updater  
packages. Has anyone updated Acrobat successfully?

Tom

On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Eric Winkelhake wrote:


I've noticed that Acrobat updates come with an Acrobat 8 Pro Patcher app
instead of the typical Adobe Patcher which in turn causes Casper Admin  
to
not know that it's and adobe installer package.  Will Casper Admin  
soon be
able to distinguish this subtle difference so we can apply the same easy
drag and drop updates we use with the other apps??


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From sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us  Tue May 27 11:39:35 2008
From: sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us (Sandy J. Hinding)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:39:35 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
Message-ID: <fc.011eddef05422c6a011eddef05422c6a.5423317@isd194.k12.mn.us>

Hi All-
Wondered if others have had this issue:
Brand new machines that go right from box to netboot > Image using Erase HD in Casper don't go (they hang, and not always in the same spot in the configuration). If we erase them first w/ Disk Utility (with no other changes) they go.
Problem also seems to vary by model (the last macbooks we got in did not require this extra step at all).
I suspect a permissions issue, since they have not run their "startup assistant" to create users, the permissions are non-standard. 
Other ideas?

Sandy Hinding
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue May 27 11:44:04 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:44:04 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
Message-ID: <s83c1045.016@gwmail.kckps.org>

Perhaps with the partition type.  If you are imaging intels make sure
that the image has the GUID partition table in your image otherwise it
can't format them with the older partition table and would fail.

That is my only guess with being able to see your network.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> 05/27/08 1:39 PM >>>
Hi All-
Wondered if others have had this issue:
Brand new machines that go right from box to netboot > Image using Erase
HD in Casper don't go (they hang, and not always in the same spot in the
configuration). If we erase them first w/ Disk Utility (with no other
changes) they go.
Problem also seems to vary by model (the last macbooks we got in did not
require this extra step at all).
I suspect a permissions issue, since they have not run their "startup
assistant" to create users, the permissions are non-standard. 
Other ideas?

Sandy Hinding
Lakeville Area Public Schools



From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Tue May 27 11:45:08 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:45:08 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <fc.011eddef05422c6a011eddef05422c6a.5423317@isd194.k12.mn.us>
Message-ID: <C461CEF4.2AFF%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

What?s in your config?  What HD format are the machines coming out of the
box with?
Don?t assume Apple is correct, they often ship internal drives with odd
configurations.

If you are getting odd drive formats from the factory, you may want to use a
diskutil partitionDisk script as a ?before? item in your autorun
data/prestage to make sure you?re getting what you expect before you start
an image.

-- 
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On 5/27/08 2:39 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:

> Hi All-
> Wondered if others have had this issue:
> Brand new machines that go right from box to netboot > Image using Erase HD in
> Casper don't go (they hang, and not always in the same spot in the
> configuration). If we erase them first w/ Disk Utility (with no other changes)
> they go.
> Problem also seems to vary by model (the last macbooks we got in did not
> require this extra step at all).
> I suspect a permissions issue, since they have not run their "startup
> assistant" to create users, the permissions are non-standard.
> Other ideas?
> 
> Sandy Hinding
> Lakeville Area Public Schools
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From SChadda at oco.com  Tue May 27 12:24:51 2008
From: SChadda at oco.com (Siddhartha Chadda)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:24:51 -0500
Subject: [Casper] casper partitioning
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we discovered that having the wrong partition scheme on intel based macs 
makes it impossible to upgrade to leopard.
must be GUID not APM.
well i used a utility called ipartition which not only can change 
partition scheme's non destructively, it can resize partitions between amc 
and windows & add an efi partition if need be.
I have added this utility to my netboot infrastructure. it is sweet. and 
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From sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us  Tue May 27 12:32:47 2008
From: sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us (Sandy J. Hinding)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:32:47 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
Message-ID: <fc.011eddef0542371e011eddef0542371e.5423e16@isd194.k12.mn.us>

Thanks for the (scarily) prompt replies!

Bad formatting is a likely culprit, which would jive with why some models are worse than others...
I have noticed this issue off and on for awhile (maybe a year?), and so for onesey-twoseys, we just routinely erase before imaging....I will have to look at that when we get some new ones in

I am using a 10.5.1 INTEL netboot image, which has not changed since 1/15/08.
It automatically logs in as root, and  as I said, if I make NO other changes except to erase the HD, all is golden.
I am in the process of building a new netboot from scratch on the model we are deploying this summer.
Not sure about GUID tables....
Have not had any time to explore pre-staging...maybe this week?
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue May 27 12:33:37 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:33:37 -0500
Subject: [Casper] casper partitioning
Message-ID: <s83c1bdb.054@gwmail.kckps.org>

You can use diskutil from the command line and write a pre action script
that runs and wipes the drive with the GUID partition instead of using
APM.  It wouldn't cost anything and you wouldn't have the overhead of
loading an application at netboot.

Just an idea though.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Siddhartha Chadda <SChadda at oco.com> 05/27/08 2:24 PM >>>
we discovered that having the wrong partition scheme on intel based macs

makes it impossible to upgrade to leopard.
must be GUID not APM.
well i used a utility called ipartition which not only can change 
partition scheme's non destructively, it can resize partitions between
amc 
and windows & add an efi partition if need be.
I have added this utility to my netboot infrastructure. it is sweet. and

only $50.



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From SChadda at oco.com  Tue May 27 12:52:46 2008
From: SChadda at oco.com (Siddhartha Chadda)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:52:46 -0500
Subject: [Casper] casper partitioning
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i think non destructive is the key. apple's way of changing from GUID to 
APM scheme's is destructive.



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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Tue May 27 13:36:16 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:36:16 -0500
Subject: [Casper] casper partitioning
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Are you doing just upgrades, or are you doing fresh installs?  Sounds like upgrades.  Is that going okay?  I don't plan on doing any upgrades to Leopard, only new installs, so destructive would be fine as you're laying a new image down.

-John


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i think non destructive is the key. apple's way of changing from GUID to APM scheme's is destructive.



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From daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk  Wed May 28 06:12:23 2008
From: daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk (Daniel Farnworth)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:12:23 +0100
Subject: [Casper] Licensed Software Definitions
Message-ID: <974536EA-0C8E-4A0B-8910-CBCD3EE910FA@thecreativepartnership.co.uk>

Hi,

Just wondered before I issue a bug report whether anyone had figured  
a workaround to the following issue?

We, like many shops, have both Mac and Windows boxes with cross- 
platform licenses for the various pieces of software we run. I like  
to use Casper to track my licensing across both platforms, but have  
hit a snag. As would be expected, the applications have different  
names on each platform but this seems to flummox the JSS. For  
instance, to track CS3 Design Standard we enter the following as  
software definitions: -

Adobe Photoshop CS3.app
Adobe InDesign CS3.app

This happily picks up all the Mac instances, but none of the Windows  
(I wouldn't expect it to of course). If we change this definition to: -

Adobe Photoshop CS3
Adobe InDesign CS3

then JSS only reports Windows installs as contributing to the license  
count. Finally, as I would (kind of) expect, if we make the software  
definition include all 4, JSS doesn't pick anything up.

It seems to me that we need the software definitions to match on LIKE  
for title or we need to be able to add conditions or even better sets  
of definitions for each platform.

Has anyone got a workaround?

Cheers
Dan
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 28 06:35:32 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:35:32 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
Message-ID: <s83d1968.073@gwmail.kckps.org>

Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
who have gone would be great.

Thanks!

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351

From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 28 06:42:51 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:42:51 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <s83d1968.073@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Tom,

Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification is good for two full version releases). Based on your responses to this list I think this might be a very easy certification for you to accomplish. There are some perks, which if you wanted more details about you could visit this website about it or contact JAMF. I think that it's beneficial to any JSS administrator. You also get a lot of face time with perhaps Jason Wudi or Tedd Herman (or maybe someone else these days) on the support team.

http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php

More training and education never hurt anyone...

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ernstcs at uwec.edu


On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
who have gone would be great.

Thanks!

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
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From james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed May 28 06:48:23 2008
From: james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk (James Partridge)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:48:23 +0100
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <ECD249E1-6F12-492B-B078-469201203B00@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

I can second Craig's comments. We flew over from the UK to do the CCA  
in New York and found it worth every penny. I'd certainly recommend it  
to anyone using Casper seriously.

James

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James Partridge
Systems Development & Support (Apple)
Oxford University Computing Service
13 Banbury Road
Oxford OX2 6NN

Tel.: (01865) 273207
iChat: james.partridge at mac.com

On 28 May 2008, at 14:42, Ernst, Craig S. wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification  
> is good for two full version releases). Based on your responses to  
> this list I think this might be a very easy certification for you to  
> accomplish. There are some perks, which if you wanted more details  
> about you could visit this website about it or contact JAMF. I think  
> that it?s beneficial to any JSS administrator. You also get a lot of  
> face time with perhaps Jason Wudi or Tedd Herman (or maybe someone  
> else these days) on the support team.
>
> http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>
> More training and education never hurt anyone...
>
> Craig Ernst
> Systems Management & Configuration
> ----------------------------------
> University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
> Learning & Technology Services
> 105 Garfield Ave
> Eau Claire, WI 54701
> Phone: (715) 836-3639
> Fax: (715) 836-6001
> ----------------------------------
> ernstcs at uwec.edu
>
>
> On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>
> Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
> Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to  
> those
> who have gone would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 28 06:52:18 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:52:18 -0400
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946D8@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

It's definitely worth it if you want to learn to leverage the the power of the Casper suite.

I walked in to the course just days after purchasing the suite, and I came away from the course with a deep understanding of the toolset.


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To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Wed May 28 09:35:32 2008
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course

Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
who have gone would be great.

Thanks!

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
_______________________________________________
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From Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com  Wed May 28 06:56:53 2008
From: Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com (Jesse Almanrode)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 07:56:53 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <ECD249E1-6F12-492B-B078-469201203B00@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C462C0C6.79B0%Jesse.Almanrode@cabelas.com>

I would have to agree with James. I have been a long time user of the Casper
Suite (I believe that I started in version 3) and got lots of new ideas for
administering our clients more efficiently as well as a deep understanding
of the new features that I had not yet taken advantage of.  In my mind,
before the class, Casper wasn?t broken so I wasn?t going to fix it. After
the certification course I am now working to utilize as many features as I
can to the advantage of both the technicians and our clients.


On 5/28/08 7:48 AM, "James Partridge" <james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> I can second Craig's comments. We flew over from the UK to do the CCA in New
> York and found it worth every penny. I'd certainly recommend it to anyone
> using Casper seriously.
> 
> James
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> James Partridge
> Systems Development & Support (Apple)
> Oxford University Computing Service
> 13 Banbury Road
> Oxford OX2 6NN
> 
> Tel.: (01865) 273207
> iChat: james.partridge at mac.com
> 
> On 28 May 2008, at 14:42, Ernst, Craig S. wrote:
> 
>>  Tom,
>>  
>>  Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification is good
>> for two full version releases). Based on your responses to this list I think
>> this might be a very easy certification for you to accomplish. There are some
>> perks, which if you wanted more details about you could visit this website
>> about it or contact JAMF. I think that it?s beneficial to any JSS
>> administrator. You also get a lot of face time with perhaps Jason Wudi or
>> Tedd Herman (or maybe someone else these days) on the support team.
>>  
>>  http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>>  
>>  More training and education never hurt anyone...
>>  
>>  Craig Ernst
>>  Systems Management & Configuration
>>  ----------------------------------
>>  University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
>>  Learning & Technology Services
>>  105 Garfield Ave
>>  Eau Claire, WI 54701
>>  Phone: (715) 836-3639
>>  Fax: (715) 836-6001
>>  ----------------------------------
>>  ernstcs at uwec.edu
>>  
>>  
>>  On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>> Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
>>>  Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
>>>  who have gone would be great.
>>>  
>>>  Thanks!
>>>  
>>>  Thomas Larkin
>>>  TIS Department
>>>  KCKPS USD500
>>>  tlarki at kckps.org
>>>  cell:  913-449-7589
>>>  office:  913-627-0351
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>  Casper mailing list
>>>  Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>>>  http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>>>  
>>>  
>>  
>>   _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>  
> 
> 
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 28 07:07:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:07:57 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
Message-ID: <s83d20fb.066@gwmail.kckps.org>

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.  I think I am just going to bite the bullet and finally finish up my certs.  Finish my ACTC, and then go over to ACSA, and I was also looking at adding the Casper cert and possibly another basic one.  

The training looks fun and I think I could learn a lot more by going.  I haven't ever had to managed 5,500 macbooks at once before and Casper allows us to manage them, but I definitely think we can improve what we are currently doing.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Jesse Almanrode <Jesse.Almanrode at cabelas.com> 05/28/08 8:56 AM >>>
I would have to agree with James. I have been a long time user of the Casper
Suite (I believe that I started in version 3) and got lots of new ideas for
administering our clients more efficiently as well as a deep understanding
of the new features that I had not yet taken advantage of.  In my mind,
before the class, Casper wasn?t broken so I wasn?t going to fix it. After
the certification course I am now working to utilize as many features as I
can to the advantage of both the technicians and our clients.


On 5/28/08 7:48 AM, "James Partridge" <james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> I can second Craig's comments. We flew over from the UK to do the CCA in New
> York and found it worth every penny. I'd certainly recommend it to anyone
> using Casper seriously.
> 
> James
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> James Partridge
> Systems Development & Support (Apple)
> Oxford University Computing Service
> 13 Banbury Road
> Oxford OX2 6NN
> 
> Tel.: (01865) 273207
> iChat: james.partridge at mac.com
> 
> On 28 May 2008, at 14:42, Ernst, Craig S. wrote:
> 
>>  Tom,
>>  
>>  Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification is good
>> for two full version releases). Based on your responses to this list I think
>> this might be a very easy certification for you to accomplish. There are some
>> perks, which if you wanted more details about you could visit this website
>> about it or contact JAMF. I think that it?s beneficial to any JSS
>> administrator. You also get a lot of face time with perhaps Jason Wudi or
>> Tedd Herman (or maybe someone else these days) on the support team.
>>  
>>  http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>>  
>>  More training and education never hurt anyone...
>>  
>>  Craig Ernst
>>  Systems Management & Configuration
>>  ----------------------------------
>>  University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
>>  Learning & Technology Services
>>  105 Garfield Ave
>>  Eau Claire, WI 54701
>>  Phone: (715) 836-3639
>>  Fax: (715) 836-6001
>>  ----------------------------------
>>  ernstcs at uwec.edu
>>  
>>  
>>  On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>> Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
>>>  Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
>>>  who have gone would be great.
>>>  
>>>  Thanks!
>>>  
>>>  Thomas Larkin
>>>  TIS Department
>>>  KCKPS USD500
>>>  tlarki at kckps.org
>>>  cell:  913-449-7589
>>>  office:  913-627-0351
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>  Casper mailing list
>>>  Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>>>  http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>>>  
>>>  
>>  
>>   _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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308-255-2625
jhalmanr at cabelas.com




From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 28 07:15:12 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:15:12 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <s83d20fb.066@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C462D320.B00D%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Good luck, beard stroking old school Unix guy. =)

Craig


On 5/28/08 9:07 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.  I think I am just going to bite the bullet and finally finish up my certs.  Finish my ACTC, and then go over to ACSA, and I was also looking at adding the Casper cert and possibly another basic one.

The training looks fun and I think I could learn a lot more by going.  I haven't ever had to managed 5,500 macbooks at once before and Casper allows us to manage them, but I definitely think we can improve what we are currently doing.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 28 07:22:14 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:22:14 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Licensed Software Definitions
In-Reply-To: <974536EA-0C8E-4A0B-8910-CBCD3EE910FA@thecreativepartnership.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C462E2D6.2B4D%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

I don?t have a workaround, but I second the feature request.  Some
flexibility in defining a license would be welcome.

Thanks,
-- 
Miles Leacy
Senior Mac Technologist
ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Polo Ralph Lauren
212-318-7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com




On 5/28/08 9:12 AM, "Daniel Farnworth"
<daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just wondered before I issue a bug report whether anyone had figured
> a workaround to the following issue?
> 
> We, like many shops, have both Mac and Windows boxes with cross-
> platform licenses for the various pieces of software we run. I like
> to use Casper to track my licensing across both platforms, but have
> hit a snag. As would be expected, the applications have different
> names on each platform but this seems to flummox the JSS. For
> instance, to track CS3 Design Standard we enter the following as
> software definitions: -
> 
> Adobe Photoshop CS3.app
> Adobe InDesign CS3.app
> 
> This happily picks up all the Mac instances, but none of the Windows
> (I wouldn't expect it to of course). If we change this definition to: -
> 
> Adobe Photoshop CS3
> Adobe InDesign CS3
> 
> then JSS only reports Windows installs as contributing to the license
> count. Finally, as I would (kind of) expect, if we make the software
> definition include all 4, JSS doesn't pick anything up.
> 
> It seems to me that we need the software definitions to match on LIKE
> for title or we need to be able to add conditions or even better sets
> of definitions for each platform.
> 
> Has anyone got a workaround?
> 
> Cheers
> Dan
> --
> Daniel Farnworth
> IT Manager
> The Creative Partnership
> daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk
> 
> http://www.thecreativepartnership.co.uk
> Tel: +44 (0)20 7439 7762
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7437 1467
> 
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 28 07:23:20 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:23:20 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
Message-ID: <s83d24a4.020@gwmail.kckps.org>

I just shaved the beard off.  Now I am a handle bar mustache Unix guy!

thanks for the feedback

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 05/28/08 9:15 AM >>>
Good luck, beard stroking old school Unix guy. =)

Craig


On 5/28/08 9:07 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.  I think I am just going to bite
the bullet and finally finish up my certs.  Finish my ACTC, and then go
over to ACSA, and I was also looking at adding the Casper cert and
possibly another basic one.

The training looks fun and I think I could learn a lot more by going.  I
haven't ever had to managed 5,500 macbooks at once before and Casper
allows us to manage them, but I definitely think we can improve what we
are currently doing.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351



From wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed May 28 07:35:02 2008
From: wylie.horn at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Horn Wylie)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:35:02 +0100
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <ECD249E1-6F12-492B-B078-469201203B00@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
	<ECD249E1-6F12-492B-B078-469201203B00@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <6FCEDB7C-CAD2-415F-AEA8-DA01354CD7A7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

Likewise.  It's a great course.

Wylie

On 28 May 2008, at 14:48, James Partridge wrote:

> I can second Craig's comments. We flew over from the UK to do the  
> CCA in New York and found it worth every penny. I'd certainly  
> recommend it to anyone using Casper seriously.
>
> James
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> James Partridge
> Systems Development & Support (Apple)
> Oxford University Computing Service
> 13 Banbury Road
> Oxford OX2 6NN
>
> Tel.: (01865) 273207
> iChat: james.partridge at mac.com
>
> On 28 May 2008, at 14:42, Ernst, Craig S. wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification  
>> is good for two full version releases). Based on your responses to  
>> this list I think this might be a very easy certification for you  
>> to accomplish. There are some perks, which if you wanted more  
>> details about you could visit this website about it or contact  
>> JAMF. I think that it?s beneficial to any JSS administrator. You  
>> also get a lot of face time with perhaps Jason Wudi or Tedd Herman  
>> (or maybe someone else these days) on the support team.
>>
>> http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>>
>> More training and education never hurt anyone...
>>
>> Craig Ernst
>> Systems Management & Configuration
>> ----------------------------------
>> University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
>> Learning & Technology Services
>> 105 Garfield Ave
>> Eau Claire, WI 54701
>> Phone: (715) 836-3639
>> Fax: (715) 836-6001
>> ----------------------------------
>> ernstcs at uwec.edu
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>>
>> Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
>> Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to  
>> those
>> who have gone would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Thomas Larkin
>> TIS Department
>> KCKPS USD500
>> tlarki at kckps.org
>> cell:  913-449-7589
>> office:  913-627-0351
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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>
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From jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us  Wed May 28 07:41:13 2008
From: jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us (Jeff Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:41:13 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CCA training course
In-Reply-To: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <C462CB8B.AFFF%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <fc.000f6ed20098c1453b9aca0029c39fb2.98c16a@glendale.k12.wi.us>

I second Craig's thoughts on this. I've only been through one CCA course
(last fall, in Mpls.) but it really helped me with many questions I had. I
plan on attending this next CCA in Chicago. Not only was the JAMF training
(Wudi) great but sharing ideas/experiences with others was beneficial as
well.

Jeff Johnson
Technology Coordinator
Glendale-River Hills School District
Glendale, WI 53209
jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us

"Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 8:42 AM
-0600 wrote:
>Tom,
>
>Been there and done that, and will be doing it again (certification is
>good for two full version releases). Based on your responses to this list
>I think this might be a very easy certification for you to accomplish.
>There are some perks, which if you wanted more details about you could
>visit this website about it or contact JAMF. I think that it?s beneficial
>to any JSS administrator. You also get a lot of face time with perhaps
>Jason Wudi or Tedd Herman (or maybe someone else these days) on the
>support team.
>
>[ http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>]http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/cca.php
>
>More training and education never hurt anyone...
>
>Craig Ernst
>Systems Management & Configuration
>----------------------------------
>University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
>Learning & Technology Services
>105 Garfield Ave
>Eau Claire, WI 54701
>Phone: (715) 836-3639
>Fax: (715) 836-6001
>----------------------------------
>[ fcp://@glendale.k12.wi.us,%231011410/MailBox/ernstcs at uwec.edu
>]ernstcs at uwec.edu
>
>
>On 5/28/08 8:35 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <[
>fcp://@glendale.k12.wi.us,%231011410/MailBox/tlarki at kckps.org
>]tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>Who all has done this?  What did it entail?  I think I am going to
>Chicago and the end of June for the course.  A little feedback to those
>who have gone would be great.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Thomas Larkin
>TIS Department
>KCKPS USD500
>[ fcp://@glendale.k12.wi.us,%231011410/MailBox/tlarki at kckps.org
>]tlarki at kckps.org
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From sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us  Wed May 28 09:00:54 2008
From: sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us (Sandy J. Hinding)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:00:54 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <mailman.398484.1211982177.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.398484.1211982177.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <fc.011eddef054286de3b9aca002e0c5eba.542a1ae@isd194.k12.mn.us>

Hi again-
just to clarify:
these are brand new Intels out of the box, never booted to their own (pre-installed 10.5) HD prior to our netbooting and Caspering.
While I haven't looked at any HDs "out of the box" I would certainly be stunned if they were arriving with 10.5 on an APM... though I will be exploring this at the next opportunity.
The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we use DISK Utility they go.
What is the difference?
"Erase Target Drive : If this box is checked, Casper will format the hard drive or partition that is selected in 
Target Drive."
Why am I the only one seeing this? If most already partition for Data, or Restore, or BootCamp, then this issue would not appear (which for most purposes we do not do)
OR
Some other factor?
Preflight script sounds like the way to go.
Thanks!
Sandy

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 28 09:09:06 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:09:06 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <fc.011eddef054286de3b9aca002e0c5eba.542a1ae@isd194.k12.mn.us>
Message-ID: <C462FBE2.2B66%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

On 5/28/08 12:00 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:
> Why am I the only one seeing this?

You?re not.  I?ve encountered this same issue, and on investigation, some
machines were coming out of the factory with odd drive formats.  That?s why
I suggested the diskutil preflight script.  It?s what I used to solve the
problem.

>The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we use
DISK Utility they go. What is the difference?

The difference between Casper and Disk Utility is that Casper erases an
existing partition (like the ?Erase? tab in Disk Utility).  With diskutil,
you can repartition, creating the correct partition setup (like the
?Partition tab in Disk Utility).

I hope this helps.

-- 
Miles Leacy
Senior Mac Technologist
ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Polo Ralph Lauren
212-318-7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com









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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Wed May 28 09:27:46 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <C462FBE2.2B66%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Message-ID: <C462F232.4B8F%john_wetter@hopkins.k12.mn.us>

Miles,

Would you mind posting your preflight script?

-John


On 5/28/08 11:09 AM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:

On 5/28/08 12:00 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:
> Why am I the only one seeing this?

You're not.  I've encountered this same issue, and on investigation, some machines were coming out of the factory with odd drive formats.  That's why I suggested the diskutil preflight script.  It's what I used to solve the problem.

>The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we use DISK Utility they go. What is the difference?

The difference between Casper and Disk Utility is that Casper erases an existing partition (like the "Erase" tab in Disk Utility).  With diskutil, you can repartition, creating the correct partition setup (like the "Partition tab in Disk Utility).

I hope this helps.

--
John Wetter
Technology Support Administrator
Technology & Information Services
Hopkins Public Schools
952-988-5373
john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us
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From john.brenner at merrillcorp.com  Wed May 28 09:26:10 2008
From: john.brenner at merrillcorp.com (John Brenner)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <C462FBE2.2B66%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Message-ID: <C462F1D2.2E47%john.brenner@merrillcorp.com>

I agree I am guessing that it is running or calling the diskutil eraseVolume
command rather than the diskutil eraseDisk command.  The former would only
erase a volume and if there is a driver mismatch e.g. formatted with a
Higher or lower version of diskutil you can run into issues.


On 5/28/08 11:09 AM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:

> On 5/28/08 12:00 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:
>> > Why am I the only one seeing this?
> 
> You?re not.  I?ve encountered this same issue, and on investigation, some
> machines were coming out of the factory with odd drive formats.  That?s why I
> suggested the diskutil preflight script.  It?s what I used to solve the
> problem.
> 
>> >The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we use
>> DISK Utility they go. What is the difference?
> 
> The difference between Casper and Disk Utility is that Casper erases an
> existing partition (like the ?Erase? tab in Disk Utility).  With diskutil, you
> can repartition, creating the correct partition setup (like the ?Partition tab
> in Disk Utility).
> 
> I hope this helps.


John Brenner    |   Merrill Corporation     |   IOG IT   |  651-632-4072






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From tlarki at kckps.org  Wed May 28 09:29:42 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:29:42 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
Message-ID: <s83d4249.045@gwmail.kckps.org>

here is something I whipped up really quick.  it is simple and a two
liner.  Please check this before you deploy it.  I have no way of
testing it right now but a simple script like this could help fix your
issue.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> 05/28/08 11:00 AM
>>>
Hi again-
just to clarify:
these are brand new Intels out of the box, never booted to their own
(pre-installed 10.5) HD prior to our netbooting and Caspering.
While I haven't looked at any HDs "out of the box" I would certainly be
stunned if they were arriving with 10.5 on an APM... though I will be
exploring this at the next opportunity.
The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we
use DISK Utility they go.
What is the difference?
"Erase Target Drive : If this box is checked, Casper will format the
hard drive or partition that is selected in 
Target Drive."
Why am I the only one seeing this? If most already partition for Data,
or Restore, or BootCamp, then this issue would not appear (which for
most purposes we do not do)
OR
Some other factor?
Preflight script sounds like the way to go.
Thanks!
Sandy


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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 28 09:36:07 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:36:07 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
In-Reply-To: <C462F232.4B8F%john_wetter@hopkins.k12.mn.us>
Message-ID: <C4630237.2B7B%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>

Sure, here you go...

diskutil partitionDisk disk0 3 HFS+ Macintosh\ HD 40G HFS+ Restore 20G HFS+
Data 0b

As you can see, I use 3 partitions.  Macintosh HD is the boot drive.  40GB
is more than enough for the system and apps in my environment,  The 20GB
Restore partition is a Casper restore partition.  It doe an autologin as
root and has Casper.app as a startup item.  The Data partition is where
/Users is redirected via a symlink, and the 0b notation means ?all remaining
space on the device?.

On 5/28/08 12:27 PM, "John Wetter" <john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us> wrote:

> Miles,
> 
> Would you mind posting your preflight script?
> 
> -John
> 
> 
> On 5/28/08 11:09 AM, "Leacy, Miles" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/28/08 12:00 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding" <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:
>>> > Why am I the only one seeing this?
>> 
>> You?re not.  I?ve encountered this same issue, and on investigation, some
>> machines were coming out of the factory with odd drive formats.  That?s why I
>> suggested the diskutil preflight script.  It?s what I used to solve the
>> problem.
>> 
>>> >The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient, but if we use
>>> DISK Utility they go. What is the difference?
>> 
>> The difference between Casper and Disk Utility is that Casper erases an
>> existing partition (like the ?Erase? tab in Disk Utility).  With diskutil,
>> you can repartition, creating the correct partition setup (like the
>> ?Partition tab in Disk Utility).
>> 
>> I hope this helps.

-- 
Miles Leacy
Senior Mac Technologist
ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Polo Ralph Lauren
212-318-7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com









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From enrique.silberg at yr.com  Wed May 28 14:43:48 2008
From: enrique.silberg at yr.com (Enrique silberg)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:43:48 -0400
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume
Message-ID: <C4634A54.3651A%enrique.silberg@yr.com>

We are running with 3 partitions on hard drive

Restore ?hidden to user
MacOS- all applications
Data -User Home directory and scratch

Two weeks ago user changed names of two drives they can see. On restart it
created a new empty user home directory on the MacOS partition for the user.
We just reimaged.

Today again another user-changed names of drives they can see and on restart
the computer would not restart. Then I got second call it did start up as
user BUT the users items were gone. By the time I got to computer one of
techs had reimaged. On questioning tech when they booted with restore drive
and changed names back system would not come up right. And just backed up
user files and reimaged whole drive.

It has been very helpful when we need to reimage MacOS drive and not have to
worry about users home directory. But now I am not so sure if a name change
will cause such trouble.

Anyone have best practice for this.

Anyone going to WWDC?

Ricky

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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Wed May 28 15:28:41 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:28:41 -0400
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946E4@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

I'll be at WWDC.

My first, best recommendation is to not give admin privileges to your clients.

Some people think that having admin privileges is "corporate/organizational culture".  You may find yourself directed to give admin rights to all or some of your clients.  If you find yourself in this position, I would advise you to find the appropriate time, place and person to discuss the issue with, and explain what havoc can be wrought by an admin.  Remember that any admin has or can get root and root is omnipotent.  Having unknown, unskilled, and potentially untrustworthy people with unlimited access to your systems is bad.  If you're in a publically traded company, users having having admin rights may be illegal.

An ignorant or malicious admin can undo any management system or process you enact.

They could render a computer inoperable, thus costing your organization their own downtime, as well as the time you need to take to fix the problem.

Sorry if this got off on a bit of a tangent, but there are countless good reasons not to give out admin rights, and very few good reasons to give them.

-----
Miles Leacy
ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Senior Mac Technologist
Polo Ralph Lauren
212.318.7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com

----- Original Message -----
From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Wed May 28 17:43:48 2008
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

We are running with 3 partitions on hard drive

Restore ?hidden to user
MacOS- all applications
Data -User Home directory and scratch

Two weeks ago user changed names of two drives they can see. On restart it created a new empty user home directory on the MacOS partition for the user. We just reimaged.

Today again another user-changed names of drives they can see and on restart the computer would not restart. Then I got second call it did start up as user BUT the users items were gone. By the time I got to computer one of techs had reimaged. On questioning tech when they booted with restore drive and changed names back system would not come up right. And just backed up user files and reimaged whole drive.

It has been very helpful when we need to reimage MacOS drive and not have to worry about users home directory. But now I am not so sure if a name change will cause such trouble.

Anyone have best practice for this.

Anyone going to WWDC?

Ricky







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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed May 28 16:13:02 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:13:02 -0500
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume
In-Reply-To: <C4634A54.3651A%enrique.silberg@yr.com>
References: <C4634A54.3651A%enrique.silberg@yr.com>
Message-ID: <EEA4CA65D05DC54E874A89D9F51868193D2C7CEE1F@CHERRYCOKE.uwec.edu>

I'll be at WWDC. I'm sure we can meet at the CUG on Tuesday night. It's quite amazing to see how different people's environments really are.

We don't save any user home directories, at least in our labs and classrooms. They get wiped each night so they get updated user profiles if we re-imaged or pushed out new software that has anything for Fill User Templates to pick up. All of their "STUFF" is saved on a network share so it's backed up.

Craig Ernst
Systems Management and Configuration
+-------------------+
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Learning and Technology Services
105 Garfield Ave
Eau Claire, WI 54701
Phone: (715) 836-3639
Fax: (715) 836-6001
+-------------------+
ernstcs at uwec.edu
________________________________
From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Enrique silberg [enrique.silberg at yr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:43 PM
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

We are running with 3 partitions on hard drive

Restore ?hidden to user
MacOS- all applications
Data -User Home directory and scratch

Two weeks ago user changed names of two drives they can see. On restart it created a new empty user home directory on the MacOS partition for the user. We just reimaged.

Today again another user-changed names of drives they can see and on restart the computer would not restart. Then I got second call it did start up as user BUT the users items were gone. By the time I got to computer one of techs had reimaged. On questioning tech when they booted with restore drive and changed names back system would not come up right. And just backed up user files and reimaged whole drive.

It has been very helpful when we need to reimage MacOS drive and not have to worry about users home directory. But now I am not so sure if a name change will cause such trouble.

Anyone have best practice for this.

Anyone going to WWDC?

Ricky
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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Wed May 28 23:50:51 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume
In-Reply-To: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946E4@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>
References: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946E4@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>
Message-ID: <4058FCBF8DBA6646855ABFA27F869E517E2DFBC784@EXCHANGE.hopkins.hopkinsschools.org>

I will not be at WWDC this year, we're on an 'every-other-year' rotation here.

While a bit OT for this list, I'd be interested to hear how other educational institutions (especially K-12) handle local computer rights for staff.  We lock down student computers pretty tight, but there is a lot of push to give staff admin rights on their computers to be able to try out new software/services.  We have different setups right now across our environment from very locked down to being very open with admin rights.  What are others doing?  Let users have admin rights and then just re-image when they get in trouble, or have them just be 'standard' users, or do you hav ethem as managed users?

Thanks,
John
--
John Wetter
Technology Support Administrator
Technology & Information Services
Hopkins Public Schools
952-988-5373
john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us
________________________________________
From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) [Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:28 PM
To: enrique.silberg at yr.com; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

I'll be at WWDC.

My first, best recommendation is to not give admin privileges to your clients.

Some people think that having admin privileges is "corporate/organizational culture".  You may find yourself directed to give admin rights to all or some of your clients.  If you find yourself in this position, I would advise you to find the appropriate time, place and person to discuss the issue with, and explain what havoc can be wrought by an admin.  Remember that any admin has or can get root and root is omnipotent.  Having unknown, unskilled, and potentially untrustworthy people with unlimited access to your systems is bad.  If you're in a publically traded company, users having having admin rights may be illegal.

An ignorant or malicious admin can undo any management system or process you enact.

They could render a computer inoperable, thus costing your organization their own downtime, as well as the time you need to take to fix the problem.

Sorry if this got off on a bit of a tangent, but there are countless good reasons not to give out admin rights, and very few good reasons to give them.

-----
Miles Leacy
ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Senior Mac Technologist
Polo Ralph Lauren
212.318.7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com

----- Original Message -----
From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Wed May 28 17:43:48 2008
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

We are running with 3 partitions on hard drive

Restore ?hidden to user
MacOS- all applications
Data -User Home directory and scratch

Two weeks ago user changed names of two drives they can see. On restart it created a new empty user home directory on the MacOS partition for the user. We just reimaged.

Today again another user-changed names of drives they can see and on restart the computer would not restart. Then I got second call it did start up as user BUT the users items were gone. By the time I got to computer one of techs had reimaged. On questioning tech when they booted with restore drive and changed names back system would not come up right. And just backed up user files and reimaged whole drive.

It has been very helpful when we need to reimage MacOS drive and not have to worry about users home directory. But now I am not so sure if a name change will cause such trouble.

Anyone have best practice for this.

Anyone going to WWDC?

Ricky







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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 29 06:41:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume
Message-ID: <s83e6c6f.050@gwmail.kckps.org>

John,

I have two images for my macbooks.  1 teacher and 1 student image.  The teacher image is very lightly managed.  Their network accounts are not admin level, however we do have local admin accounts on the machine that the teachers can use to install and test software.

The student machines are locked down locally, and by group policy and have no rights to install or update software.  The local admin account on the student machine is hidden, and of course it is very different than the teacher accounts.

I have already used casper to change passwords and it has worked great, so we do some slight password rotations.

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
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>>> John Wetter <john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us> 05/29/08 1:50 AM >>>
I will not be at WWDC this year, we're on an 'every-other-year' rotation here.

While a bit OT for this list, I'd be interested to hear how other educational institutions (especially K-12) handle local computer rights for staff.  We lock down student computers pretty tight, but there is a lot of push to give staff admin rights on their computers to be able to try out new software/services.  We have different setups right now across our environment from very locked down to being very open with admin rights.  What are others doing?  Let users have admin rights and then just re-image when they get in trouble, or have them just be 'standard' users, or do you hav ethem as managed users?

Thanks,
John
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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Leacy, Miles (US) [Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:28 PM
To: enrique.silberg at yr.com; casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

I'll be at WWDC.

My first, best recommendation is to not give admin privileges to your clients.

Some people think that having admin privileges is "corporate/organizational culture".  You may find yourself directed to give admin rights to all or some of your clients.  If you find yourself in this position, I would advise you to find the appropriate time, place and person to discuss the issue with, and explain what havoc can be wrought by an admin.  Remember that any admin has or can get root and root is omnipotent.  Having unknown, unskilled, and potentially untrustworthy people with unlimited access to your systems is bad.  If you're in a publically traded company, users having having admin rights may be illegal.

An ignorant or malicious admin can undo any management system or process you enact.

They could render a computer inoperable, thus costing your organization their own downtime, as well as the time you need to take to fix the problem.

Sorry if this got off on a bit of a tangent, but there are countless good reasons not to give out admin rights, and very few good reasons to give them.

-----
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ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Senior Mac Technologist
Polo Ralph Lauren
212.318.7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com

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To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Wed May 28 17:43:48 2008
Subject: [Casper] User home directory on third Volume

We are running with 3 partitions on hard drive

Restore *hidden to user
MacOS- all applications
Data -User Home directory and scratch

Two weeks ago user changed names of two drives they can see. On restart it created a new empty user home directory on the MacOS partition for the user. We just reimaged.

Today again another user-changed names of drives they can see and on restart the computer would not restart. Then I got second call it did start up as user BUT the users items were gone. By the time I got to computer one of techs had reimaged. On questioning tech when they booted with restore drive and changed names back system would not come up right. And just backed up user files and reimaged whole drive.

It has been very helpful when we need to reimage MacOS drive and not have to worry about users home directory. But now I am not so sure if a name change will cause such trouble.

Anyone have best practice for this.

Anyone going to WWDC?

Ricky







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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 29 11:09:34 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
Message-ID: <s83eab2d.010@gwmail.kckps.org>

This is not a specific question to Casper, but thought I would ask some
of you since you all may have already done this.

I need to migrate our Tiger servers to Leopard servers, and this is all
because we need Leopard clients.  Plus we will be ordering some new
machines that will come preinstalled with Leopard.

I went into server admin and backed up the ODM's LDAP by making a back
up via server admin application on the directory services tab.

Can I just now wipe and install Leopard, mimic IP and DNS settings then
import that LDAP and be done with it?  Is it really that easy?

Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
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From swood at integerdallas.com  Thu May 29 11:36:50 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:36:50 -0500
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
In-Reply-To: <s83eab2d.010@gwmail.kckps.org>
References: <s83eab2d.010@gwmail.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <D151C10E-C27C-4F5E-8442-45BDD5295173@integerdallas.com>

This is something I am working on as well, and I would strongly  
suggest you test before you make the jump, and make sure you have a  
good image of your system first.

One of the best ways I have heard for doing this is to promote a  
replica, wipe and install your current master, make it a replica of  
the promoted box, then promote that new Leopard server.  Make sense?

I would highly suggest getting a second drive for the server, imaging  
your current system to that using SuperDuper, and then doing your  
upgrade on that second drive.  That way you can roll back easily.  And  
definitely test in a sandbox if you can.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Thomas Larkin wrote:

> This is not a specific question to Casper, but thought I would ask  
> some
> of you since you all may have already done this.
>
> I need to migrate our Tiger servers to Leopard servers, and this is  
> all
> because we need Leopard clients.  Plus we will be ordering some new
> machines that will come preinstalled with Leopard.
>
> I went into server admin and backed up the ODM's LDAP by making a back
> up via server admin application on the directory services tab.
>
> Can I just now wipe and install Leopard, mimic IP and DNS settings  
> then
> import that LDAP and be done with it?  Is it really that easy?
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 29 13:09:59 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:09:59 -0500
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
Message-ID: <s83ec75f.025@gwmail.kckps.org>

Well all the users are gone, so I do have the ability to take the ODM
offline for a while.  One advantage of working for a school system is
that all your users are gone for 2.5 months over the summer.



Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> 05/29/08 1:36 PM >>>
This is something I am working on as well, and I would strongly  
suggest you test before you make the jump, and make sure you have a  
good image of your system first.

One of the best ways I have heard for doing this is to promote a  
replica, wipe and install your current master, make it a replica of  
the promoted box, then promote that new Leopard server.  Make sense?

I would highly suggest getting a second drive for the server, imaging  
your current system to that using SuperDuper, and then doing your  
upgrade on that second drive.  That way you can roll back easily.  And  
definitely test in a sandbox if you can.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Thomas Larkin wrote:

> This is not a specific question to Casper, but thought I would ask  
> some
> of you since you all may have already done this.
>
> I need to migrate our Tiger servers to Leopard servers, and this is  
> all
> because we need Leopard clients.  Plus we will be ordering some new
> machines that will come preinstalled with Leopard.
>
> I went into server admin and backed up the ODM's LDAP by making a back
> up via server admin application on the directory services tab.
>
> Can I just now wipe and install Leopard, mimic IP and DNS settings  
> then
> import that LDAP and be done with it?  Is it really that easy?
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
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From Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com  Thu May 29 13:40:38 2008
From: Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com (Leacy, Miles (US))
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:40:38 -0400
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
Message-ID: <EBA8556F5F8CFB459C46B6A76956F06B01D946EF@us-ny-exmb2-4.poloralphlauren.com>

In that case, assuming you have replica(s),  I'd take the ODM offline.  Then choose a replica, wipe it, and build your new Leopard ODM from scratch.  Once you have it working and configured the way you want it, you could boot your Tiger ODM (off the network), export your users, then import them into your Leopard ODM.

Wow, no clients.  I miss academia.

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Polo Ralph Lauren
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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
To: swood at integerdallas.com <swood at integerdallas.com>
Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Thu May 29 16:09:59 2008
Subject: Re: [Casper] migration to leopard

Well all the users are gone, so I do have the ability to take the ODM
offline for a while.  One advantage of working for a school system is
that all your users are gone for 2.5 months over the summer.



Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> 05/29/08 1:36 PM >>>
This is something I am working on as well, and I would strongly  
suggest you test before you make the jump, and make sure you have a  
good image of your system first.

One of the best ways I have heard for doing this is to promote a  
replica, wipe and install your current master, make it a replica of  
the promoted box, then promote that new Leopard server.  Make sense?

I would highly suggest getting a second drive for the server, imaging  
your current system to that using SuperDuper, and then doing your  
upgrade on that second drive.  That way you can roll back easily.  And  
definitely test in a sandbox if you can.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Thomas Larkin wrote:

> This is not a specific question to Casper, but thought I would ask  
> some
> of you since you all may have already done this.
>
> I need to migrate our Tiger servers to Leopard servers, and this is  
> all
> because we need Leopard clients.  Plus we will be ordering some new
> machines that will come preinstalled with Leopard.
>
> I went into server admin and backed up the ODM's LDAP by making a back
> up via server admin application on the directory services tab.
>
> Can I just now wipe and install Leopard, mimic IP and DNS settings  
> then
> import that LDAP and be done with it?  Is it really that easy?
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
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> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper



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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu May 29 15:45:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:45:57 -0500
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
Message-ID: <s83eebf5.050@gwmail.kckps.org>

Well, I tested it on a Mac mini today and it all worked.  I got summer
school the next two weeks actually, and I forgot about that earlier,
hehe, glad I remembered.  During July there are practically zero mac
users at all so I will take it down first week of july.  That gives me a
few weeks to test it out on my Mini as well then create an image as
well.

Thomas Larkin
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>>> "Leacy, Miles (US)" <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> 05/29/08 3:40
PM >>>
In that case, assuming you have replica(s),  I'd take the ODM offline. 
Then choose a replica, wipe it, and build your new Leopard ODM from
scratch.  Once you have it working and configured the way you want it,
you could boot your Tiger ODM (off the network), export your users, then
import them into your Leopard ODM.

Wow, no clients.  I miss academia.

-----
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ACTC|ACSA|ACT|CCA
Senior Mac Technologist
Polo Ralph Lauren
212.318.7603
miles.leacy at poloralphlauren.com

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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
<casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com>
To: swood at integerdallas.com <swood at integerdallas.com>
Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Sent: Thu May 29 16:09:59 2008
Subject: Re: [Casper] migration to leopard

Well all the users are gone, so I do have the ability to take the ODM
offline for a while.  One advantage of working for a school system is
that all your users are gone for 2.5 months over the summer.



Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
cell:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351
>>> Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> 05/29/08 1:36 PM >>>
This is something I am working on as well, and I would strongly  
suggest you test before you make the jump, and make sure you have a  
good image of your system first.

One of the best ways I have heard for doing this is to promote a  
replica, wipe and install your current master, make it a replica of  
the promoted box, then promote that new Leopard server.  Make sense?

I would highly suggest getting a second drive for the server, imaging  
your current system to that using SuperDuper, and then doing your  
upgrade on that second drive.  That way you can roll back easily.  And  
definitely test in a sandbox if you can.

Steve Wood
Director, Information Technology
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6907 | C 940.312.2475




On May 29, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Thomas Larkin wrote:

> This is not a specific question to Casper, but thought I would ask  
> some
> of you since you all may have already done this.
>
> I need to migrate our Tiger servers to Leopard servers, and this is  
> all
> because we need Leopard clients.  Plus we will be ordering some new
> machines that will come preinstalled with Leopard.
>
> I went into server admin and backed up the ODM's LDAP by making a back
> up via server admin application on the directory services tab.
>
> Can I just now wipe and install Leopard, mimic IP and DNS settings  
> then
> import that LDAP and be done with it?  Is it really that easy?
>
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> cell:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
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From jeremymatthews at mac.com  Thu May 29 17:06:55 2008
From: jeremymatthews at mac.com (Jeremy Matthews)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:06:55 -0400
Subject: [Casper] migration to leopard
In-Reply-To: <mailman.403592.1212086214.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.403592.1212086214.4205.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <99A886D5-A9AF-401A-B9C7-FA23D7101AF0@mac.com>

Per Apple IT & Education, I've always been told to:

1) Backup everything important on the test system or related  
production services (archive the OD master)
2) Force a replication event immediately before upgrading
3) Upgrade the MASTER and test - if it fails you can then promote a  
replica

This way, hopefully you're testing OD-based services....but then  
again, I usually do this AFTER a full backup and AFTER testing with a  
separate "skeleton" environment.
It saved me from losing a LOT of information when we upgraded some  
10.4.11 server to 10.5.0 (patched to 10.5.2) - most of our LDAP  
records simply dropped out.
Would've been a nightmare...

-j
ACHDS/ACTC/ACSA 10.3/10.4
ACSP/ACTC 10.5


On May 29, 2008, at 2:36 PM, casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com wrote:

> One of the best ways I have heard for doing this is to promote a
> replica, wipe and install your current master, make it a replica of
> the promoted box, then promote that new Leopard server.  Make sense?


From daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk  Fri May 30 01:54:23 2008
From: daniel.farnworth at thecreativepartnership.co.uk (Daniel Farnworth)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:54:23 +0100
Subject: [Casper] Erase new HD prior to imaging
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References: <C4630237.2B7B%Miles.Leacy@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Message-ID: <8546E101-7465-4C77-B5AF-97C7B267FC4F@thecreativepartnership.co.uk>

We also have a preflight script that we use, ours checks for what  
platform the installation is occurring on along with the size of the  
primary disk and then partitions the disk with the correct partition  
scheme and volume sizes accordingly.

See attached, please feel free to reuse, change, improve etc, but if  
you do come up with any interesting changes or improvements to my  
shoddy code please let me know so we can update ours as well.

If you're interested, we also have a postflight that writes an fstab  
to hide certain volumes and remount a data partition to /Users

Enjoy...
Dan




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On 28 May 2008, at 17:36, Leacy, Miles wrote:

> Sure, here you go...
>
> diskutil partitionDisk disk0 3 HFS+ Macintosh\ HD 40G HFS+ Restore  
> 20G HFS+ Data 0b
>
> As you can see, I use 3 partitions.  Macintosh HD is the boot  
> drive.  40GB is more than enough for the system and apps in my  
> environment,  The 20GB Restore partition is a Casper restore  
> partition.  It doe an autologin as root and has Casper.app as a  
> startup item.  The Data partition is where /Users is redirected via  
> a symlink, and the 0b notation means ?all remaining space on the  
> device?.
>
> On 5/28/08 12:27 PM, "John Wetter" <john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us>  
> wrote:
>
>> Miles,
>>
>> Would you mind posting your preflight script?
>>
>> -John
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/08 11:09 AM, "Leacy, Miles"  
>> <Miles.Leacy at PoloRalphLauren.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/28/08 12:00 PM, "Sandy J. Hinding"  
>>> <sjhinding at isd194.k12.mn.us> wrote:
>>> > Why am I the only one seeing this?
>>>
>>> You?re not.  I?ve encountered this same issue, and on  
>>> investigation, some machines were coming out of the factory with  
>>> odd drive formats.  That?s why I suggested the diskutil preflight  
>>> script.  It?s what I used to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> >The Erase HD option in CASPER does not seem to be sufficient,  
>>> but if we use DISK Utility they go. What is the difference?
>>>
>>> The difference between Casper and Disk Utility is that Casper  
>>> erases an existing partition (like the ?Erase? tab in Disk  
>>> Utility).  With diskutil, you can repartition, creating the  
>>> correct partition setup (like the ?Partition tab in Disk Utility).
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>
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