From bazmail at bazmac.co.uk  Sat Nov  1 14:50:34 2008
From: bazmail at bazmac.co.uk (Michael Curtis)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:50:34 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
Message-ID: <324C3419-4DC3-44AF-94F6-F838669D708C@bazmac.co.uk>

Hi,

I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among  
others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide  
them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?

Best wishes

Michael


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Sat Nov  1 18:42:03 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:42:03 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
In-Reply-To: <324C3419-4DC3-44AF-94F6-F838669D708C@bazmac.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C5326F9B.10983%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I won't always defend Casper, but in this instance I can't imagine that Casper is actually the cause of this issue. And have you imaged more than just one Mac to see if you can get it to reoccur and be reproduced?

Did you install any other packages when you imaged? Would any of those have potentially changed some settings?

Craig E

On 11/1/08 4:50 PM, "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:

Hi,

I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?

Best wishes

Michael


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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Sat Nov  1 19:16:10 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:16:10 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
In-Reply-To: <C5326F9B.10983%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <324C3419-4DC3-44AF-94F6-F838669D708C@bazmac.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811011916o79f4634dref66b8fb94a495e8@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Craig.  I suggest checking your workflow.
I had an instance where this occurred, but only when another member of my
staff performed the imaging.  I never did find the cause because when using
the process I had established, it did not occur.

If you can share your imaging process, and the packages and scripts in your
configuration, perhaps we can help find what is causing this.


2008/11/1 Ernst, Craig S. <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>

>  I won't always defend Casper, but in this instance I can't imagine that
> Casper is actually the cause of this issue. And have you imaged more than
> just one Mac to see if you can get it to reoccur and be reproduced?
>
> Did you install any other packages when you imaged? Would any of those have
> potentially changed some settings?
>
> Craig E
>
>
> On 11/1/08 4:50 PM, "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
> others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
> them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Michael
>
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Sat Nov  1 19:39:28 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:39:28 -0400
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
In-Reply-To: <324C3419-4DC3-44AF-94F6-F838669D708C@bazmac.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C5328B22.16B98%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

I don't think it would be Casper either, but I use something called SetHidden to re-hide these folders.  It came with (I believe) the 10.4 dev tools - though works on 10.5 too.  It'll need installation as it's a command-line binary, but once it's installed, you can call it with a script as part of maintenance.  It's simple and does the trick nicely.

I attached a compressed a folder with the following:

 *   SetHidden - file - Iceberg project file
 *   resources - folder - contains postflight script which executes the SetHidden command
 *   contents - folder - contains the SetHidden binary and hidden_MacOS9 file as distributed from Dev Tools
 *   build - folder - contains built, installable, Set Hidden.pkg, as compiled from Iceberg.

Cheers

jared

On 11/1/08 17:50 , "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:

Hi,

I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?

Best wishes

Michael


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Sun Nov  2 05:43:34 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:43:34 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
In-Reply-To: <FD5BA23C-35E7-4A53-B14B-BFDBAFB11462@bazmac.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C5330AA6.1099D%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Have you run diagnostics on those drives? Was there a difference in the types of hardware between the 2 that had the issue and the 1 that didn't?

Are you imaging with Tiger or Leopard?

Craig E


On 11/2/08 3:21 AM, "Michael Curtis" <michael at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Craig,

Nothing has changed. In fact we built 3 machines yesterday. 2 did it an one didn't. The 2 that had issues we, had problems mounting the drives. The drives would appear in the Casper list, but not in the netboot finder. Weird. I suppose I need to find a script to change the permissions.

Best wishes

Michael

On 2 Nov 2008, at 01:42, Ernst, Craig S. wrote:

I won't always defend Casper, but in this instance I can't imagine that Casper is actually the cause of this issue. And have you imaged more than just one Mac to see if you can get it to reoccur and be reproduced?

 Did you install any other packages when you imaged? Would any of those have potentially changed some settings?

 Craig E

 On 11/1/08 4:50 PM, "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:


Hi,

 I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
 others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
 them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?

 Best wishes

 Michael


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From jeremymatthews at mac.com  Sun Nov  2 06:48:15 2008
From: jeremymatthews at mac.com (Jeremy Matthews)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Automating Server Installs
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1225566012.8758.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.5.1225566012.8758.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <70A8C199-5098-4D56-B6FA-05066279A717@mac.com>

InstaDMG +1 - love it...mostly

Instead of local config files how about creating directory records  
(for servers)?

-j

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:16:55 -0400
From: "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
Subject: [Casper] Automating Server Installs
To: "Casper List" <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

This message is in two parts...

For anyone using InstaDMG with the Casper suite, I'd like to hear your
experiences.  I like the idea of never having booted my base system  
before
dropping it.  I'm curious as to how deeply we can mesh the InstaDMG  
concept
& methodology with the Casper tool.  It seems that they should be  
largely
compatible.

Secondly, I'm trying to automate my Mac OS X Server installs.  Right  
now,
I'm just thinking through workflow conceptually.
If I create a Netinstall image from the OS X Server install disc, I'll  
still
need to get a configuration file to the machine.  There's the simple  
Apple
answer of putting the configuration file on a USB key attached to the
server, but I'm looking for a more automated way that won't require me  
to
ever see the server, just to know its serial number .  I've got  
Casper, and
I want to rebuild Xserves via my iPhone at a caf? while on my way to  
more
interesting things.

One thought I had was to create a traditional image at a point before  
going
through the server setup, and include the configuration file as
a separate package on top of the image.  Theoretically, at first boot,  
the
system should see a config file present and use it.

If anyone has any ideas, or better yet, proven workflows, I'd love to  
hear
about them.

Thanks,
Mile

From jstrauss at loyolahs.edu  Sun Nov  2 09:23:51 2008
From: jstrauss at loyolahs.edu (Jeff Strauss)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:23:51 -0800
Subject: [Casper] 1-to-1 recommendations
Message-ID: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>

Hi all,

Next year our school of 1200 students will be going 1-to-1, where every student has their own laptop that they end up purchasing (over four years) through the cost of tuition. I have a couple logistical questions and I would love to benefit from the experience on this list. Has anyone gone 1-to-1 that I could bounce ideas around with? I'm mainly stumped by what kind of access the students should be granted: should they be given admin access on their machines? How does that impair management with Casper? That kind of stuff.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265
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From Jim.OringJr at schawk.com  Sun Nov  2 17:14:16 2008
From: Jim.OringJr at schawk.com (Jim Oring, Jr.)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:14:16 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
Message-ID: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>

I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very  
interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

Thanks to all,

JIM ORING, JR.
IT DEPARTMENT

SCHAWK!
T 323.258.4111
D 323.551.6517
M 909.904.2839
F 323.259.0428
jim.oringjr at schawk.com

3116 West Avenue 32
Los Angeles, CA 90065 USA
schawk.com

From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Sun Nov  2 17:16:32 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:16:32 -0600
Subject: [Casper] 1-to-1 recommendations
In-Reply-To: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
Message-ID: <C533AD10.109BB%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Jeff,

We aren't one to one here, but I'm not sure it much matters. If you want to restrict end users from doing things to your machine I'm sure Thomas Larking will have some advice. I just wanted to answer the last part. It doesn't matter what access the users have to the machines. You manage your systems with a typically hidden administration account through SSH. Can work just on your network, off your network, pretty much anywhere you want to allow it to do things. The management suite is the tool that gets the system to how you want it, and how you maintain it.

Good luck!

Craig E

On 11/2/08 11:23 AM, "Jeff Strauss" <jstrauss at loyolahs.edu> wrote:

Hi all,

Next year our school of 1200 students will be going 1-to-1, where every student has their own laptop that they end up purchasing (over four years) through the cost of tuition. I have a couple logistical questions and I would love to benefit from the experience on this list. Has anyone gone 1-to-1 that I could bounce ideas around with? I'm mainly stumped by what kind of access the students should be granted: should they be given admin access on their machines? How does that impair management with Casper? That kind of stuff.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265
 [cid:3308498192_1128496]


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Sun Nov  2 17:17:08 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:17:08 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
Message-ID: <C533AD34.109BC%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Define "seemless".

What do you want it to do?

Craig E

On 11/2/08 7:14 PM, "Jim Oring, Jr." <Jim.OringJr at schawk.com> wrote:

I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

Thanks to all,

JIM ORING, JR.
IT DEPARTMENT

SCHAWK!
T 323.258.4111
D 323.551.6517
M 909.904.2839
F 323.259.0428
jim.oringjr at schawk.com

3116 West Avenue 32
Los Angeles, CA 90065 USA
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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Sun Nov  2 17:25:42 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:25:42 -0600
Subject: [Casper] 1-to-1 recommendations
In-Reply-To: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
References: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
Message-ID: <4058FCBF8DBA6646855ABFA27F869E51E0F4A45600@EXCHANGE.hopkins.hopkinsschools.org>

He have a 1-1 program in our 4-5-6 grades.  We manage the system preferences and partental controls using Managed Preferences, and we handle updates/software installs/imaging, etc. through Casper.  As mentioned, our students are manages mobile home directories with managed accounts.  Giving students admin accounts would be a mistake, IMHO.

-John

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952-988-5373
john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us
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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Strauss [jstrauss at loyolahs.edu]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:23 AM
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: [Casper] 1-to-1 recommendations

Hi all,

Next year our school of 1200 students will be going 1-to-1, where every student has their own laptop that they end up purchasing (over four years) through the cost of tuition. I have a couple logistical questions and I would love to benefit from the experience on this list. Has anyone gone 1-to-1 that I could bounce ideas around with? I?m mainly stumped by what kind of access the students should be granted: should they be given admin access on their machines? How does that impair management with Casper? That kind of stuff.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265
 [cid:3308462631_29553]

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From john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us  Sun Nov  2 17:28:27 2008
From: john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us (John Wetter)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:28:27 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
References: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
Message-ID: <4058FCBF8DBA6646855ABFA27F869E51E0F4A45601@EXCHANGE.hopkins.hopkinsschools.org>

We use netboot for all of our imaging with a JAMF NetInstall image set.  It works well for us.  Not sure what else you might be looking for...

--
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Technology Support Administrator
Technology & Information Services
Hopkins Public Schools
952-988-5373
john_wetter at hopkins.k12.mn.us
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From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jim Oring, Jr. [Jim.OringJr at schawk.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:14 PM
To: Casper
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie

I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

Thanks to all,

JIM ORING, JR.
IT DEPARTMENT

SCHAWK!
T 323.258.4111
D 323.551.6517
M 909.904.2839
F 323.259.0428
jim.oringjr at schawk.com

3116 West Avenue 32
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From ben.w.young at det.nsw.edu.au  Sun Nov  2 17:38:01 2008
From: ben.w.young at det.nsw.edu.au (Ben W Young)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:38:01 +1100
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
Message-ID: <C534A129.6B17%ben.w.young@det.nsw.edu.au>

Jim,

We are experimenting also with making an automated process through Netboot.
We could do with advise on improving what we current have so any tips would
be welcome.

We fist rename out computers and add them into the JSS manually. We name out
computers based on site and room location so that it helps with remote
management and with organizing the JSS

Once we have the correct names and in the JSS we setup the school and add
the appropriate configuration and Autorun information using the Mass Edit
feature. 

We can then tell the computers to Netboot via Capser Remote to the Netboot
server and then the Netboot takes over for stage 1 of the imaging process.

Stage 1:  Netboot / Partition disk / Deploy Recovery OS (ROS) to the Restore
partition.

We have a pre-script that partitions the disk in two drives once it has
Netbooted and then Netrestore takes over and restores an the ROS to the
newly created Restore partition. Once that's complete it then reboots to the
ROS and thats Stage 2.

Stage 2: Primary OS deployment and packages

Once it boots to the ROS it automatically runs Casper imaging and restores
the primary OS and delivers he appropriate packages and runs post scripts to
bind to AD ad OD.

That a snapshot a what we have started to do. But there is probably is a
better way...faster way of making this automated.

Regards,

Ben W Young.



On 3/11/08 12:14 PM, "Jim Oring, Jr." <Jim.OringJr at schawk.com> wrote:

> I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
> interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.
> 
> Thanks to all,
> 
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> IT DEPARTMENT
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From sean.m.nesbitt at lmco.com  Mon Nov  3 06:14:54 2008
From: sean.m.nesbitt at lmco.com (Nesbitt, Sean M.)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:14:54 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9422.1225593628.7145.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C534637E.4935%sean.m.nesbitt@lmco.com>

Its not Casper. See this Apple KB article: Mac OS X 10.4: Invisible files
become visible after NetInstall or restoring from a disk image
(http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1979)

Sean

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> From: "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
> To: Casper List <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
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> I won't always defend Casper, but in this instance I can't imagine that Casper
> is actually the cause of this issue. And have you imaged more than just one
> Mac to see if you can get it to reoccur and be reproduced?
> 
> Did you install any other packages when you imaged? Would any of those have
> potentially changed some settings?
> 
> Craig E
> 
> On 11/1/08 4:50 PM, "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
> others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
> them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Michael
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> From: "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
> Subject: Re: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
> To: "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
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> I agree with Craig.  I suggest checking your workflow.
> I had an instance where this occurred, but only when another member of my
> staff performed the imaging.  I never did find the cause because when using
> the process I had established, it did not occur.
> 
> If you can share your imaging process, and the packages and scripts in your
> configuration, perhaps we can help find what is causing this.
> 
> 
> 2008/11/1 Ernst, Craig S. <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
> 
>> >  I won't always defend Casper, but in this instance I can't imagine that
>> > Casper is actually the cause of this issue. And have you imaged more than
>> > just one Mac to see if you can get it to reoccur and be reproduced?
>> >
>> > Did you install any other packages when you imaged? Would any of those have
>> > potentially changed some settings?
>> >
>> > Craig E
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/1/08 4:50 PM, "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
>> > others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
>> > them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?
>> >
>> > Best wishes
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
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> From: "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Casper] Finder shows hidden files after image
> To: Michael Curtis <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk>,
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> Hi-
> 
> I don't think it would be Casper either, but I use something called SetHidden
> to re-hide these folders.  It came with (I believe) the 10.4 dev tools -
> though works on 10.5 too.  It'll need installation as it's a command-line
> binary, but once it's installed, you can call it with a script as part of
> maintenance.  It's simple and does the trick nicely.
> 
> I attached a compressed a folder with the following:
> 
>  *   SetHidden - file - Iceberg project file
>  *   resources - folder - contains postflight script which executes the
> SetHidden command
>  *   contents - folder - contains the SetHidden binary and hidden_MacOS9 file
> as distributed from Dev Tools
>  *   build - folder - contains built, installable, Set Hidden.pkg, as compiled
> from Iceberg.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> jared
> 
> On 11/1/08 17:50 , "Michael Curtis" <bazmail at bazmac.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have imaged a Mac and it now shows the etc and var folders, among
> others in the Finder. These should of course be hidden. How can I hide
> them, and any idea why Casper would have done this?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Michael
> 
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon Nov  3 06:51:21 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:51:21 -0600
Subject: [Casper] 1-to-1 recommendations
In-Reply-To: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
References: <C5332227.2717%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
Message-ID: <490EBB89.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Jeff, 

My name is Tom and I work in a school district that has deployed 6,000
Macbooks in our 1:1.  We are on our second year and last year they hired
me on to admin the servers and the casper suite.  It has been quite a
crazy time so far.  I can only imagine that your initial set up will be
OS X server Open Directory along with users logging in with mobile
accounts on their laptops.  Mobile accounts are a god send.  Once they
sync to the machine locally, the machine will authenticate locally but
still get group/user policy from OS X server.  I won't go into a
superlative amount of detail but outline some basics for you.  Assuming
you are running 10.5.x server/client. 

Toss all the applications you don't want the user to have access to in
/Applications/Utilities.  For instance I tossed in Automator and the
Apple script program, because the smart students figured out that those
applications can be used to open unauthorized applications.  Once I get
every app I don't want them to be able to run in the
/Applications/Utilities folder and all the apps installed I want in the
base image in the /Applications folder I just apply an ownership change
to those directories, with this simple unix command. 

sudo chown -R root:admin /Applications 

That will change ownership of all folders under /Applications to be
owned by root, and in the admin group.  Next I apply a permissions
command that will modify the rwx attributes. 

sudo chmod -R 775 /Applications 

This means that the root user and any user in the admin group have full
read-write-execute permissions, while everyone else only has read and
execute.  So, your hidden local administrator account will have full
access as well as root (but root always should). 

Then in Work Group Manager create a nested group that includes all
students.  Manage their applications by folder in WGM, saying that only
applications may be ran from /Applications.  Then, next deny them access
to any thing under /Applications/Utilities.  So far this school year it
has seemed to work pretty well.  I restrict that programs can only run
from the Applications folder period.  You can't run an app from the
user's desktop.  It will not work.  Any app that I want an admin account
to have access to, but no one else is simply placed in
/Applications/Utilities.  Since the utilities folder is restricted in
WGM by the Application preferences. 

Also, it is my philosophy to create 2 separate hidden admin accounts.  1
account you give out to your IT staff for management and troubleshooting
of the machine, and the other one you create for all the casper
management.  That way the casper management account never ever gets
touched.  I don't give anyone the casper admin account password and I
don't even tell people it is on there.  It only has one purpose, to
manage the machine for casper.  Then anyone who needs admin rights to
the machine I can just give them the local hidden admin account and they
can use that.  I have already had to do a massive password reset last
year because of someone who left a printed password list out.  Mass
changing the password from Casper 5.13 to Casper 6 actually was kind of
a pain.   

I use Casper for package deployment and policies mainly, as well as
inventory and imaging.  I don't manage the applications with Casper
mainly because I don't like how you have to make a global exceptions
list.  If I could manage them by smart group I would be more inclined,
since with Open Directory I can manage all students by the all students
group, or a group of students by building and graduation year, or an
individual student account just by managing their user account
specifically.   

I would never give your students admin rights, they could root the
machine and erase whatever web filter app you have on there as well as
any tracking software, etc. 

If you have any specific questions please feel free to post them. 

thx


___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry>>> Jeff Strauss <jstrauss at loyolahs.edu> 11/02/08 11:23 AM >>>

Hi all,

Next year our school of 1200 students will be going 1-to-1, where every
student has their own laptop that they end up purchasing (over four
years) through the cost of tuition. I have a couple logistical questions
and I would love to benefit from the experience on this list. Has anyone
gone 1-to-1 that I could bounce ideas around with? I?m mainly stumped by
what kind of access the students should be granted: should they be given
admin access on their machines? How does that impair management with
Casper? That kind of stuff.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265
 


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From james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:12:25 2008
From: james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk (James Partridge)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
References: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
Message-ID: <8A1920FC-BB1B-40F8-94D3-A3767CC3D3F7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

On 3 Nov 2008, at 01:14, Jim Oring, Jr. wrote:

> I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
> interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

One important thing to keep in mind is the steps you need to take if  
you are going to be NetBooting across subnets. Mike Bombich (as usual)  
has written the definitive descriptions of the whole NetBoot process,  
and things to watch out for):

Troubleshooting the NetBoot process: <http://www.bombich.com/mactips/netboot.html 
 >
NetBooting across subnets: <http://www.bombich.com/mactips/nbas.html>

The key step is for whoever administers your network hardware to make  
sure that routers on any subnets that will have machines NetBooting  
can pass BSDP traffic. If this works then everything else follows  
pretty easily.

I'd also recommend looking into a good administrative method for  
managing which machines are allowed to NetBoot and which aren't.  
Apple's MAC address filtering is the right thing to do (imo) but the  
interface for managing MAC addresses in Server Admin is, well, a bit  
rubbish really. If you have a large number or a high turnover of  
machines allowed to NetBoot then it's really easy to lose control of  
the MAC address filter.

In general, though, I'd say read those two articles by Mike Bombich.  
I've never seen anything better for understanding the NetBoot process.  
If you are NetBooting both PPC and Intel machines then pay close  
attention to the sections about NetBooting multiple architectures.

Cheers

James


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Systems Development & Support (Apple)
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Mon Nov  3 07:24:17 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:24:17 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <8A1920FC-BB1B-40F8-94D3-A3767CC3D3F7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
	<8A1920FC-BB1B-40F8-94D3-A3767CC3D3F7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811030724yb4aa5acna302d881951c21f0@mail.gmail.com>

Note that you can specify netboot servers, and even specific images through
the JSS.  See Casper Suite documentation, pages 328-331.
You don't need to do anything special with routers if you specify where to
netboot from.  Its only in the default netboot situation where a netbooting
computer broadcasts to the network looking for a netboot server where you
run into routing issues.

You can use the bless command to specify your netboot server and/or image.


2008/11/3 James Partridge <james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk>

> On 3 Nov 2008, at 01:14, Jim Oring, Jr. wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
> interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.
>
>
> One important thing to keep in mind is the steps you need to take if you
> are going to be NetBooting across subnets. Mike Bombich (as usual) has
> written the definitive descriptions of the whole NetBoot process, and things
> to watch out for):
>
> Troubleshooting the NetBoot process: <
> http://www.bombich.com/mactips/netboot.html>
> NetBooting across subnets: <http://www.bombich.com/mactips/nbas.html>
>
> The key step is for whoever administers your network hardware to make sure
> that routers on any subnets that will have machines NetBooting can pass BSDP
> traffic. If this works then everything else follows pretty easily.
>
> I'd also recommend looking into a good administrative method for managing
> which machines are allowed to NetBoot and which aren't. Apple's MAC address
> filtering is the right thing to do (imo) but the interface for managing MAC
> addresses in Server Admin is, well, a bit rubbish really. If you have a
> large number or a high turnover of machines allowed to NetBoot then it's
> really easy to lose control of the MAC address filter.
>
> In general, though, I'd say read those two articles by Mike Bombich. I've
> never seen anything better for understanding the NetBoot process. If you are
> NetBooting both PPC and Intel machines then pay close attention to the
> sections about NetBooting multiple architectures.
>
> Cheers
>
> James
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> James Partridge
>
> Systems Development & Support (Apple)
>
> NSMS
>
> Oxford University Computing Service
>
> 13 Banbury Road
>
> Oxford OX2 6NN
>
>
> Tel.: (01865) 273207
>
> iChat: james.partridge at mac.com
>
>
>
>
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon Nov  3 07:34:40 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:34:40 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
References: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
Message-ID: <490EC5B0.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Jim, 

I have used Zen Works from Novell, DRBL from source forge, Ghost, Bombich's Netrestore, The built in apple stuff, Acronis, amongst a few others.  Granted, not all of those products supports Macs, but I have used them all.  At my old job I had an old HP business class desktop running open SuSe Linux and DRBL and would netboot and image Windows clients off of it.   

Out of all the suites I have used in the past I can safely say that with the Apple platform there really isn't anything out there that can compete with Casper imaging.  I would say Netrestore is the closest product out there.  One huge pro that Netrestore has over Casper is the price tag, it is absolutely free.  I still use netrestore even after having the Casper Suite.  I use it to image firewire booted machines on a one to one basis and think it is a great application.   

Over the summer we had to reimage 6,000 macbooks with a dual boot image of OS X 10.5.3 and Windows XP Pro.  I automated it all through Casper and we got it done in about 5 weeks working 12 hour days for those full 5 weeks.  There are some issues with AFP and multiple connections and of course I have yet to try out Casper's multi-casting abilities and see they just released in their first resource kit.   

The mass imaging once you set it up is very automated and efficient.  The problems you run into mostly at that point are Apple technology problems, and things like AFP throughput, but there are methods of making that run smoothly.

>>> "Jim Oring, Jr." <Jim.OringJr at schawk.com> 11/02/08 7:14 PM >>>
I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very 
interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

Thanks to all,

JIM ORING, JR.
IT DEPARTMENT

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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov  3 07:35:26 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:35:26 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811030724yb4aa5acna302d881951c21f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C534765E.10A10%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Just a note about using the Casper Netboot pieces until the next release comes out:

"I have verified a bug in 6.0 and 6.01 in which a policy (and therefore Casper Remote) are not properly setting a specified netboot server.  The bug appears to occur in the translation process between the XML that the JAMF binary receives from the JSS into a command to be run.  The "jamf bless" command works correctly to set a netboot server, so you can still configure a script that will set a machine to a specified NetBoot server as a workaround.  (See 'jamf help bless')."

I always kept getting my default server.

Craig E


On 11/3/08 9:24 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

Note that you can specify netboot servers, and even specific images through the JSS.  See Casper Suite documentation, pages 328-331.

You don't need to do anything special with routers if you specify where to netboot from.  Its only in the default netboot situation where a netbooting computer broadcasts to the network looking for a netboot server where you run into routing issues.

You can use the bless command to specify your netboot server and/or image.


2008/11/3 James Partridge <james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
On 3 Nov 2008, at 01:14, Jim Oring, Jr. wrote:

I'm in the process of experimemting with netbooting and am very
interested in what others are doing to make this a seemless process.

One important thing to keep in mind is the steps you need to take if you are going to be NetBooting across subnets. Mike Bombich (as usual) has written the definitive descriptions of the whole NetBoot process, and things to watch out for):

Troubleshooting the NetBoot process: <http://www.bombich.com/mactips/netboot.html>
NetBooting across subnets: <http://www.bombich.com/mactips/nbas.html>

The key step is for whoever administers your network hardware to make sure that routers on any subnets that will have machines NetBooting can pass BSDP traffic. If this works then everything else follows pretty easily.

I'd also recommend looking into a good administrative method for managing which machines are allowed to NetBoot and which aren't. Apple's MAC address filtering is the right thing to do (imo) but the interface for managing MAC addresses in Server Admin is, well, a bit rubbish really. If you have a large number or a high turnover of machines allowed to NetBoot then it's really easy to lose control of the MAC address filter.

In general, though, I'd say read those two articles by Mike Bombich. I've never seen anything better for understanding the NetBoot process. If you are NetBooting both PPC and Intel machines then pay close attention to the sections about NetBooting multiple architectures.

Cheers

James



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Systems Development & Support (Apple)

NSMS

Oxford University Computing Service

13 Banbury Road

Oxford OX2 6NN



Tel.: (01865) 273207

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From james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Mon Nov  3 07:40:05 2008
From: james.partridge at oucs.ox.ac.uk (James Partridge)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Netboot newbie
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811030724yb4aa5acna302d881951c21f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ACF19C8C-254F-4C06-A0B5-7B1734D665D2@schawk.com>
	<8A1920FC-BB1B-40F8-94D3-A3767CC3D3F7@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
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Message-ID: <7B5F32F6-4254-4286-B9EB-3D6A547ABF1E@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

On 3 Nov 2008, at 15:24, Miles Leacy wrote:

> Note that you can specify netboot servers, and even specific images  
> through the JSS.  See Casper Suite documentation, pages 328-331.
>
> You don't need to do anything special with routers if you specify  
> where to netboot from.  Its only in the default netboot situation  
> where a netbooting computer broadcasts to the network looking for a  
> netboot server where you run into routing issues.
>
> You can use the bless command to specify your netboot server and/or  
> image.

Yup, fair point ? I should have made that clear. This is probably an  
environment-specific thing though so it's as well to be aware of all  
the options.

Cheers

James


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Systems Development & Support (Apple)
NSMS
Oxford University Computing Service
13 Banbury Road
Oxford OX2 6NN

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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Mon Nov  3 07:04:43 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:04:43 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Indexing packages
Message-ID: <C5347D3D.16BAE%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

When you index a package, does it do it with the server's resources or are you processing it locally on the machine you're admining from?  I imagine I'd like to utilize the quad-core Xeon in my Xserve instead of my MacBook Pro...

Thanks

j
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov  3 08:17:53 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:17:53 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Indexing packages
In-Reply-To: <C5347D3D.16BAE%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C5348051.10A22%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

The local box you are running Casper Admin from.

Craig E

On 11/3/08 9:04 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

When you index a package, does it do it with the server's resources or are you processing it locally on the machine you're admining from?  I imagine I'd like to utilize the quad-core Xeon in my Xserve instead of my MacBook Pro...

Thanks

j
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon Nov  3 08:43:26 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:43:26 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CS 2 packaging
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0810300815t76f88964he0cefd063c513658@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4909868A.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<4909CDF1.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk> <49098885.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<ec2e75ff0810300815t76f88964he0cefd063c513658@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490ED5CD.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

I am building the package now and not doing the disk images.  So, when I make the package can I go back and dump everything that is put in /Library into like an adobe required then put out each CS 2 app as a separate install?  I can't recall how I did that before, but the JAMF guys showed me how to do that with iLife last year. 

I can just drag them out in editable mode in Composer and create separate DMG files for them, correct? 

thanks,


___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
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>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 10/30/08 10:15 AM >>>
My CS2 package was a snapshot of the whole suite after running and and making sure all apps were serialized.  The version of Acrobat that comes with CS2 won't run properly on its own.  You have to launch another app in the suite (such as Photoshop) in order for Acrobat to "know" that its been serialized.




2008/10/30 Thomas Larkin 
<tlarki at kckps.org> 




So just combine the disk images then? 


Could I use composer and do snap shots? 



___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351






>>> "Criss  Myers" <CMyers at uclan.ac.uk> 10/30/08 10:08 AM >>>



you should be able to create 1 install disk and use that


Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054

>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at  3:03 PM, in message <4909868A.7141.0039.0 at kckps.org>, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

So, I have CS 2 to install now on some older Macs... 


It comes on like 3 CDs, or at least my version does.  Can I make 3 separate disk images of them and create them into one adobe installer in Casper Admin, or should I combine them into 1 disk image and then use the adobe installer in Casper Admin? 


Thoughts? 


Thanks, 

___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351







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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Mon Nov  3 09:03:21 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:03:21 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CS 2 packaging
In-Reply-To: <490ED5CD.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
References: <4909868A.7141.0039.0@kckps.org> <4909CDF1.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk>
	<49098885.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<ec2e75ff0810300815t76f88964he0cefd063c513658@mail.gmail.com>
	<490ED5CD.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811030903o2a5eb855jeec41a80c87ec1cd@mail.gmail.com>

I would suggest doing a full install or the Adobe suite, make sure
everything is serialized and functioning and then use the prebuilts in
Composer to generate your packages.
You may also want to look into the fix for the Acrobat self-repair function
if your users will not be admins (I most strenuously suggest that they not
be admins, I consider this a best practice).  I don't recall what the fix
was off hand, but there is one out there.


On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Thomas Larkin <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

>  I am building the package now and not doing the disk images.  So, when I
> make the package can I go back and dump everything that is put in /Library
> into like an adobe required then put out each CS 2 app as a separate
> install?  I can't recall how I did that before, but the JAMF guys showed me
> how to do that with iLife last year.
>
>  I can just drag them out in editable mode in Composer and create separate
> DMG files for them, correct?
>
>  thanks,
>
>
>
> ___________________________
> Thomas Larkin
> TIS Department
> KCKPS USD500
> tlarki at kckps.org
> blackberry:  913-449-7589
> office:  913-627-0351
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 10/30/08 10:15 AM >>>
>
> My CS2 package was a snapshot of the whole suite after running and and
> making sure all apps were serialized.  The version of Acrobat that comes
> with CS2 won't run properly on its own.  You have to launch another app in
> the suite (such as Photoshop) in order for Acrobat to "know" that its been
> serialized.
>
>
>   2008/10/30 Thomas Larkin
>
> <tlarki at kckps.org>
>
>
>   So just combine the disk images then?
>>
>>
>>  Could I use composer and do snap shots?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________
>> Thomas Larkin
>> TIS Department
>> KCKPS USD500
>> tlarki at kckps.org
>> blackberry:  913-449-7589
>> office:  913-627-0351
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   >>> "Criss  Myers" <CMyers at uclan.ac.uk> 10/30/08 10:08 AM >>>
>>
>>
>>   you should be able to create 1 install disk and use that
>>
>>
>> Criss Myers
>> Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
>> Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
>> LIS Business Support Team
>> Library 301
>> University of Central Lancashire
>> Preston PR1 2HE
>> Ex 5054
>> 01772 895054
>>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at  3:03 PM, in message <
>> 4909868A.7141.0039.0 at kckps.org>, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So, I have CS 2 to install now on some older Macs...
>>
>>
>>  It comes on like 3 CDs, or at least my version does.  Can I make 3
>> separate disk images of them and create them into one adobe installer in
>> Casper Admin, or should I combine them into 1 disk image and then use the
>> adobe installer in Casper Admin?
>>
>>
>>  Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>
>>
>> ___________________________
>> Thomas Larkin
>> TIS Department
>> KCKPS USD500
>> tlarki at kckps.org
>> blackberry:  913-449-7589
>> office:  913-627-0351
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Mon Nov  3 10:09:42 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:09:42 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Indexing packages
In-Reply-To: <C5347D3D.16BAE%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <C5347D3D.16BAE%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <CB470C9A-556E-4E19-B1C9-9B1A1AEBD17A@uwsp.edu>

I'm not sure if it has been fixed, but there was  a bug that broke  
indexing from a 10.5 box.  I tried several times, and then when I'd  
uninstall a package that I indexed, the system it was uninstalled from  
would go into a constant reboot cycle.  I think some system files were  
getting deleted.

Be sure you test this before you deploy!

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Nichols, Jared wrote:

> Hi-
>
> When you index a package, does it do it with the server?s resources  
> or are you processing it locally on the machine you?re admining  
> from?  I imagine I?d like to utilize the quad-core Xeon in my Xserve  
> instead of my MacBook Pro...
>
> Thanks
>
> j
> -- 
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
> <ATT00001.txt>

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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Mon Nov  3 10:15:00 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:15:00 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Indexing packages
In-Reply-To: <CB470C9A-556E-4E19-B1C9-9B1A1AEBD17A@uwsp.edu>
References: <C5347D3D.16BAE%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
	<CB470C9A-556E-4E19-B1C9-9B1A1AEBD17A@uwsp.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811031015l5b6ecaa3r916329393c1aba11@mail.gmail.com>

I believe this was fixed under v6.

2008/11/3 Ryan Harter <rharter at uwsp.edu>

> I'm not sure if it has been fixed, but there was  a bug that broke indexing
> from a 10.5 box.  I tried several times, and then when I'd uninstall a
> package that I indexed, the system it was uninstalled from would go into a
> constant reboot cycle.  I think some system files were getting deleted.
> Be sure you test this before you deploy!
> *
> Ryan Harter*
> UW - Stevens Point
> Workstation Developer
> 715.346.2716
> Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu
>
> On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Nichols, Jared wrote:
>
> Hi-
>
> When you index a package, does it do it with the server's resources or are
> you processing it locally on the machine you're admining from?  I imagine
> I'd like to utilize the quad-core Xeon in my Xserve instead of my MacBook
> Pro...
>
> Thanks
>
> j
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>  <ATT00001.txt>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Mon Nov  3 10:43:25 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:43:25 -0600
Subject: [Casper] FYI: Adobe issue and workaround proceedure
Message-ID: <43B73F8D-09FB-4E25-ABF8-7A99A2EC2780@uwsp.edu>

Hey Guys-

I've been working to figure out an issue we've been having with Adobe  
Installers at image time for the past week or so.  Between our work  
and Sam's at Jamf support, I think we've figured out the cause.  I  
just thought I would share with you our symptoms and our workaround  
incase any of you have similar issues.

The Symptoms:

We have an old maintenance license for Adobe Creative Suite and  
therefore don't have the Master Collection, but instead we have DVDs  
for Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc. all as separate images.   
When we want to install these at image time, Casper Imaging copies all  
of the dmgs to the FirstRun folder and builds a FirstRun script that  
will install them.  The problem with this is that they actually copy  
the FirstRun script and resources to /private/tmp before putting them  
on Macintosh HD and our NetInstall image can't fit all of that in it's  
tmp directory.

The tmp directory would fill up, Casper Imaging would not error out,  
and we would get partial FirstRun scripts or wouldn't get one at all.

The Work Around:

What we ended up doing was making a policy with a custom trigger  
called "InstallAdobeApps."  This policy just installs the Adobe Apps  
like normal, but since we aren't in the NetInstall environment the / 
private/tmp directory has the entire local disk space to work with.  I  
wrote a script that we set to run at reboot when we image that just  
calls the custom trigger.

One thing that I wanted to add to this was the jamfHelper.app (this  
window that covers the login window and tells users that it is  
installing Adobe apps).  In order to add this functionality, I made a  
package that just contained the app (which can be found in the support  
directory inside the Casper Imaging.app package) which I had it  
install to /Library/Application Support/UWSP/.

Note: I initially tried to install this to /tmp, which is a silly idea  
since /tmp gets flushed at every boot and hence the file did not  
remain there.

The script then will check that the helper app exists, and if it does  
will fire it off before, and kill it after, the adobe installer policy  
is run.

The finished script looks like this:

> #!/bin/bash
>
> if [ -d '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app' ]; then
>     /usr/sbin/jamf launchJAMFHelper -path '/Library/Application  
> Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app'
> fi
>
> /usr/sbin/jamf policy -trigger AdobeInstalls
>
> if [ -d '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app' ]; then
>     ## Unlock the login window
>     /usr/sbin/jamf killJAMFHelper
>
>     ## Remove jamfHelper
>     /bin/rm -rf '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/'
> fi
>
> exit 0

I just thought I would share this since it has many other  
applications, especially if you want to lock down the login window.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov  3 11:15:12 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:15:12 -0600
Subject: [Casper] FYI: Adobe issue and workaround proceedure
In-Reply-To: <43B73F8D-09FB-4E25-ABF8-7A99A2EC2780@uwsp.edu>
Message-ID: <C534A9E0.10A65%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Ryan,

Nice work.

We have the luxury of using the Master Collection license and files here (keep in mind we only have one full copy of Master Collection to do this imaging work), but to add to this I also have a sequence of policies that also patch the Adobe suite, and some of these don't complete unless a user is actually logged in it appears. I don't have all of the updaters tested, there are some that just never seem to work IMO, particularly on different hardware types.

But to simplify the process I use:


 *   Machine images, reboots for FirstRun
 *   Machine installs the Adobe base at FirstRun
 *   At the end of FirstRun a script calls a policy in the JSS
 *   Policy creates a local installer account, applies an autlogon package for it, installs a local copy of JAMFHelper, and then reboots
 *   Machine reboots, auto logs on with the installer account, triggers a login policy, policy triggers JAMFHelper, installs available adobe patches
 *   The final packages the policy installs is a startupitems package, deletes autologon package, and machine reboots
 *   At reboot startupitem script deletes installer account, deletes itself, runs a recon cycle, and then triggers a final policy so I know it finished and also uninstalls jamfhelper copy

As you can see it's a fairly fun process, but it's worked fairly well. It doesn't have to be triggered just at startup after imaging. You can use that process to also patch clients by calling the same policy first run does.

I can try to share more if people are interested.

Craig E


On 11/3/08 12:43 PM, "Ryan Harter" <rharter at uwsp.edu> wrote:

Hey Guys-

I've been working to figure out an issue we've been having with Adobe Installers at image time for the past week or so.  Between our work and Sam's at Jamf support, I think we've figured out the cause.  I just thought I would share with you our symptoms and our workaround incase any of you have similar issues.

The Symptoms:

We have an old maintenance license for Adobe Creative Suite and therefore don't have the Master Collection, but instead we have DVDs for Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc. all as separate images.  When we want to install these at image time, Casper Imaging copies all of the dmgs to the FirstRun folder and builds a FirstRun script that will install them.  The problem with this is that they actually copy the FirstRun script and resources to /private/tmp before putting them on Macintosh HD and our NetInstall image can't fit all of that in it's tmp directory.

The tmp directory would fill up, Casper Imaging would not error out, and we would get partial FirstRun scripts or wouldn't get one at all.

The Work Around:

What we ended up doing was making a policy with a custom trigger called "InstallAdobeApps."  This policy just installs the Adobe Apps like normal, but since we aren't in the NetInstall environment the /private/tmp directory has the entire local disk space to work with.  I wrote a script that we set to run at reboot when we image that just calls the custom trigger.

One thing that I wanted to add to this was the jamfHelper.app (this window that covers the login window and tells users that it is installing Adobe apps).  In order to add this functionality, I made a package that just contained the app (which can be found in the support directory inside the Casper Imaging.app package) which I had it install to /Library/Application Support/UWSP/.

Note: I initially tried to install this to /tmp, which is a silly idea since /tmp gets flushed at every boot and hence the file did not remain there.

The script then will check that the helper app exists, and if it does will fire it off before, and kill it after, the adobe installer policy is run.

The finished script looks like this:

#!/bin/bash

if [ -d '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app' ]; then
   /usr/sbin/jamf launchJAMFHelper -path '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app'
fi

/usr/sbin/jamf policy -trigger AdobeInstalls

if [ -d '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/jamfHelper.app' ]; then
   ## Unlock the login window
    /usr/sbin/jamf killJAMFHelper

    ## Remove jamfHelper
    /bin/rm -rf '/Library/Application Support/UWSP/'
fi

exit 0

I just thought I would share this since it has many other applications, especially if you want to lock down the login window.


Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu <mailto:Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu>



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From CMyers at uclan.ac.uk  Tue Nov  4 00:29:26 2008
From: CMyers at uclan.ac.uk (Criss  Myers)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:29:26 +0000
Subject: [Casper] CS 2 packaging
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811030903o2a5eb855jeec41a80c87ec1cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4909868A.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<4909CDF1.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk> <49098885.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<ec2e75ff0810300815t76f88964he0cefd063c513658@mail.gmail.com>
	<490ED5CD.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<ec2e75ff0811030903o2a5eb855jeec41a80c87ec1cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <491007E6.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk>

Hi, 

does anyone know what this fix is for acrobat? 

Criss


Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054

>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at  5:03 PM, in message <ec2e75ff0811030903o2a5eb855jeec41a80c87ec1cd at mail.gmail.com>, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

I would suggest doing a full install or the Adobe suite, make sure everything is serialized and functioning and then use the prebuilts in Composer to generate your packages. 


You may also want to look into the fix for the Acrobat self-repair function if your users will not be admins (I most strenuously suggest that they not be admins, I consider this a best practice).  I don't recall what the fix was off hand, but there is one out there. 




On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Thomas Larkin 
<tlarki at kckps.org> 

wrote:


I am building the package now and not doing the disk images.  So, when I make the package can I go back and dump everything that is put in /Library into like an adobe required then put out each CS 2 app as a separate install?  I can't recall how I did that before, but the JAMF guys showed me how to do that with iLife last year. 


I can just drag them out in editable mode in Composer and create separate DMG files for them, correct? 


thanks, 



___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351






>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 10/30/08 10:15 AM >>> 



My CS2 package was a snapshot of the whole suite after running and and making sure all apps were serialized.  The version of Acrobat that comes with CS2 won't run properly on its own.  You have to launch another app in the suite (such as Photoshop) in order for Acrobat to "know" that its been serialized.






2008/10/30 Thomas Larkin 
<tlarki at kckps.org> 




So just combine the disk images then? 


Could I use composer and do snap shots? 




___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351






>>> "Criss  Myers" <CMyers at uclan.ac.uk> 10/30/08 10:08 AM >>>





you should be able to create 1 install disk and use that


Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054

>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at  3:03 PM, in message <4909868A.7141.0039.0 at kckps.org>, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

So, I have CS 2 to install now on some older Macs... 


It comes on like 3 CDs, or at least my version does.  Can I make 3 separate disk images of them and create them into one adobe installer in Casper Admin, or should I combine them into 1 disk image and then use the adobe installer in Casper Admin? 


Thoughts? 


Thanks, 

___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351







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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Tue Nov  4 07:39:58 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:39:58 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Chaining updates
Message-ID: <C535D6FE.16C0B%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Is there any way to chain updates together?  For instance, the Office 12.1.4 update just came out which requires the 12.1.3 update.  12.1.4 was released because 12.1.3 was broken.  What's the best way to get people up to 12.1.4 while making sure they're not stuck on 12.1.3?  Is there a way to slipstream it?

j
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Tue Nov  4 07:53:52 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:53:52 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Chaining updates
In-Reply-To: <C535D6FE.16C0B%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <C535D6FE.16C0B%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811040753i1a3dfcccv8d6c670351bcc64e@mail.gmail.com>

I would set the packages to ascending priorities, then trigger them all with
the same policy.
Another way would be to create a smart group with the criteria of having a
receipt for the first update.  Scope a policy for the second update to this
smart group, repeat as necessary until all updates in the chain have been
covered.

Before doing any of this, I would verify that update X+1 requires update X,
and does not include update X.


2008/11/4 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Is there any way to chain updates together?  For instance, the Office
> 12.1.4 update just came out which requires the 12.1.3 update.  12.1.4 was
> released because 12.1.3 was broken.  What's the best way to get people up to
> 12.1.4 while making sure they're not stuck on 12.1.3?  Is there a way to
> slipstream it?
>
> j
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
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From sean.hansell at jwt.com  Tue Nov  4 07:55:12 2008
From: sean.hansell at jwt.com (sean.hansell at jwt.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Chaining updates
In-Reply-To: <C535D6FE.16C0B%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <OF88F1C64B.918AFA20-ON852574F7.0056E6DD-852574F7.00577886@jwt.com;
	namail2.na.corp.jwt.com>

The way I've managed this is by chaining policies based on smart-groups 
tagge to Application version.

In your case for instance, I have a smart-group whose members consist of 
computers running 12.1.1, and 12.1.2 (Our Office 2008 package is 12.1.1). 
A policy is in place to deploy 12.1.3 to that members of that smart group 
(make sure to remember to add "Update Inventory" to the advanced tab in 
the polciy.

Then you can create a simliar smart group of users that have 12.1.3, and 
create a policy to deploy 12.1.4 to members of that second smart group.

Users that have any version prior to 12.1.3 will not get 12.1.4 until they 
are updated to 12.1.3, as they move from one smart group to the second; 
"Slipstreaming", as you say. In practice the whole process happens 
relatively quickly and efficiently.



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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue Nov  4 08:02:33 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:02:33 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Automating Server Installs
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0810311216w4e7ea84bo50bea1df9f474fde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C535CE39.7FCB%swood@integerdallas.com>

I love InstaDMG, even though I haven?t been over following the development
closely.  I do not add a lot to the build train, just the major updates
(10.5.5 for example), the Create User package to create the 501 user, Quick
Add to get the machine into Casper, the Clear Reg to clear the registration
screens, and a home grown package to drop a user picture file.  The only
problem I?ve noticed with the image and Casper is that I am having problems
re-naming the machine when imaging it to either a name already in Casper, or
to the MAC or S/N.  I have not investigated this yet, and in writing this
I?m questioning the wisdom of adding the Quick Add to the image and not
doing it on restart or something.  I?ll have to test that.

On restart after imaging I have a post image script that runs to set some
small things:

# now set the time zone

systemsetup -settimezone America/Chicago

# enable network time

systemsetup -setusingnetworktime on

# set the time server

systemsetup -setnetworktimeserver time.apple.com

# set sleep times

systemsetup -setcomputersleep never

systemsetup -setdisplaysleep 15

# now re-run recon

jamf -recon

# finally, reboot

shutdown -r now

The script does more than that, like add another hidden user, but those are
the relevant parts.

I also use the images built from InstaDMG as NetBoot images.  Makes life
very easy.



No ideas on the server side.  I?ve never played around with automating a
server build, simply because I don?t have a need to mass build servers.



Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integerdallas.com

The Integer Group  |  1999 Bryan St.  |  Ste. 1700  |  Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813  |  F 214.758.6901  |  C 940.312.2475



On 10/31/08 2:16 PM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

> This message is in two parts...
> 
> For anyone using InstaDMG with the Casper suite, I'd like to hear your
> experiences.  I like the idea of never having booted my base system before
> dropping it.  I'm curious as to how deeply we can mesh the InstaDMG concept &
> methodology with the Casper tool.  It seems that they should be largely
> compatible.
> 
> Secondly, I'm trying to automate my Mac OS X Server installs.  Right now, I'm
> just thinking through workflow conceptually.
> 
> If I create a Netinstall image from the OS X Server install disc, I'll still
> need to get a configuration file to the machine.  There's the simple Apple
> answer of putting the configuration file on a USB key attached to the server,
> but I'm looking for a more automated way that won't require me to ever see the
> server, just to know its serial number .  I've got Casper, and I want to
> rebuild Xserves via my iPhone at a caf? while on my way to more interesting
> things.
> 
> One thought I had was to create a traditional image at a point before going
> through the server setup, and include the configuration file as a separate
> package on top of the image.  Theoretically, at first boot, the system should
> see a config file present and use it.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, or better yet, proven workflows, I'd love to hear
> about them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Miles
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper



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From sean.m.nesbitt at lmco.com  Tue Nov  4 08:22:19 2008
From: sean.m.nesbitt at lmco.com (Nesbitt, Sean M.)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:22:19 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Acrobat self-heal fix
In-Reply-To: <mailman.18469.1225814118.7145.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C535D2DB.4A1E%sean.m.nesbitt@lmco.com>

Criss,

Edit the following files:

/Library/Application\ Support/Adobe/Acrobat/AcroENUDist80SelfHeal.xml
/Library/Applicaiton\ Support/Adobe/Acrobat/AcroENUPro80SelfHeal.xml

And set the following "install" keys to "NO" to disable certain items:

- Safari PDF Internet Plugin, the type is "PDFViewer"
- PDF Printer, the type is "AdobePDFPrinter"
- Office 2004 PDF Plugin, the type is "PDFMaker"

Beware of these files changing when Acrobat is updated--they have changed in
the past.

Sean

On 11/4/08 9:55 AM, "casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com"
<casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com> wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:29:26 +0000
> From: "Criss  Myers" <CMyers at uclan.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Casper] CS 2 packaging
> To: "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org>, "Miles Leacy"
>  <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
> Cc: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> Message-ID: <491007E6.BB96.0081.0 at uclan.ac.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> does anyone know what this fix is for acrobat?
> 
> Criss
> 
> 
> Criss Myers
> Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
> Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
> LIS Business Support Team
> Library 301
> University of Central Lancashire
> Preston PR1 2HE
> Ex 5054
> 01772 895054
> 
>>>> >>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at  5:03 PM, in message
>>>> <ec2e75ff0811030903o2a5eb855jeec41a80c87ec1cd at mail.gmail.com>, "Miles
>>>> Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:
> 
> I would suggest doing a full install or the Adobe suite, make sure everything
> is serialized and functioning and then use the prebuilts in Composer to
> generate your packages.
> 
> 
> You may also want to look into the fix for the Acrobat self-repair function if
> your users will not be admins (I most strenuously suggest that they not be
> admins, I consider this a best practice).  I don't recall what the fix was off
> hand, but there is one out there. 

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From sean.hansell at jwt.com  Tue Nov  4 08:31:46 2008
From: sean.hansell at jwt.com (sean.hansell at jwt.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Acrobat self-heal fix
In-Reply-To: <C535D2DB.4A1E%sean.m.nesbitt@lmco.com>
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Are these the same for Acrobat 9?



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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Tue Nov  4 08:36:50 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:36:50 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Automating Server Installs
In-Reply-To: <C535CE39.7FCB%swood@integerdallas.com>
References: <ec2e75ff0810311216w4e7ea84bo50bea1df9f474fde@mail.gmail.com>
	<C535CE39.7FCB%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811040836t381342c0gd201a3cd291b09e6@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that.  I'd recommend leaving quick add out of the image.  You can
deploy it later, or use the jamf binary to manage the machine (type "jamf
help recon" in the terminal).
Following the modular methodology common to both Casper and InstaDMG, I
would break up your post image script into a number of smaller scripts to
increase modularity.  If the DNS name of your timeserver changes, you change
the script that contains that command.  If you stop using a timeserver, you
just remove that script from your configuration or InstaDMG imaging folders.

This is just my unsolicited advice, if what you have works for you, there's
nothing wrong with that.


On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:

>  I love InstaDMG, even though I haven't been over following the
> development closely.  I do not add a lot to the build train, just the major
> updates (10.5.5 for example), the Create User package to create the 501
> user, Quick Add to get the machine into Casper, the Clear Reg to clear the
> registration screens, and a home grown package to drop a user picture file.
>  The only problem I've noticed with the image and Casper is that I am having
> problems re-naming the machine when imaging it to either a name already in
> Casper, or to the MAC or S/N.  I have not investigated this yet, and in
> writing this I'm questioning the wisdom of adding the Quick Add to the image
> and not doing it on restart or something.  I'll have to test that.
>
> On restart after imaging I have a post image script that runs to set some
> small things:
>
> # now set the time zone
>
> systemsetup -settimezone America/Chicago
>
> # enable network time
>
> systemsetup -setusingnetworktime on
>
> # set the time server
>
> systemsetup -setnetworktimeserver time.apple.com
>
> # set sleep times
>
> systemsetup -setcomputersleep never
>
> systemsetup -setdisplaysleep 15
>
> # now re-run recon
>
> jamf -recon
>
> # finally, reboot
>
> shutdown -r now
>
> The script does more than that, like add another hidden user, but those are
> the relevant parts.
>
> I also use the images built from InstaDMG as NetBoot images.  Makes life
> very easy.
>
>
>
> No ideas on the server side.  I've never played around with automating a
> server build, simply because I don't have a need to mass build servers.
>
>
>
> *Steve Wood
> *Director of IT
> swood at integerdallas.com
>
> *The Integer Group*  |  1999 Bryan St.  |  Ste. 1700  |  Dallas, TX 75201
> T 214.758.6813  |  F 214.758.6901  |  C 940.312.2475
>
>
>
> On 10/31/08 2:16 PM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:
>
> This message is in two parts...
>
> For anyone using InstaDMG with the Casper suite, I'd like to hear your
> experiences.  I like the idea of never having booted my base system before
> dropping it.  I'm curious as to how deeply we can mesh the InstaDMG concept
> & methodology with the Casper tool.  It seems that they should be largely
> compatible.
>
> Secondly, I'm trying to automate my Mac OS X Server installs.  Right now,
> I'm just thinking through workflow conceptually.
>
> If I create a Netinstall image from the OS X Server install disc, I'll
> still need to get a configuration file to the machine.  There's the simple
> Apple answer of putting the configuration file on a USB key attached to the
> server, but I'm looking for a more automated way that won't require me to
> ever see the server, just to know its serial number .  I've got Casper, and
> I want to rebuild Xserves via my iPhone at a caf? while on my way to more
> interesting things.
>
> One thought I had was to create a traditional image at a point before going
> through the server setup, and include the configuration file as a separate
> package on top of the image.  Theoretically, at first boot, the system
> should see a config file present and use it.
>
> If anyone has any ideas, or better yet, proven workflows, I'd love to hear
> about them.
>
> Thanks,
> Miles
>
>
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>
>
> *
>
> Steve Wood
> *Director of IT
> swood at integerdallas.com
>
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Tue Nov  4 11:03:25 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:03:25 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Chaining updates
In-Reply-To: <a8f8be27-942b-4d80-a381-1aea9978a0e0@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <a8f8be27-942b-4d80-a381-1aea9978a0e0@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <E4CE59A1-7804-4ABD-9035-9C1801E3AE93@uwsp.edu>

I haven't gotten into any updaters yet, but can't we just run composer  
and have it look for new and modified files, install all the updaters  
to MS Office, and then push the resulting package as a "slipstreamed"  
update.

I only ask because I was just about to do that for MS Office and  
though someone else might have done this before.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:55 AM, sean.hansell at jwt.com wrote:

>
> The way I've managed this is by chaining policies based on smart- 
> groups tagge to Application version.
>
> In your case for instance, I have a smart-group whose members  
> consist of computers running 12.1.1, and 12.1.2 (Our Office 2008  
> package is 12.1.1). A policy is in place to deploy 12.1.3 to that  
> members of that smart group (make sure to remember to add "Update  
> Inventory" to the advanced tab in the polciy.
>
> Then you can create a simliar smart group of users that have 12.1.3,  
> and create a policy to deploy 12.1.4 to members of that second smart  
> group.
>
> Users that have any version prior to 12.1.3 will not get 12.1.4  
> until they are updated to 12.1.3, as they move from one smart group  
> to the second; "Slipstreaming", as you say. In practice the whole  
> process happens relatively quickly and efficiently.
>
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Nov  4 11:26:43 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:26:43 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Chaining updates
In-Reply-To: <E4CE59A1-7804-4ABD-9035-9C1801E3AE93@uwsp.edu>
Message-ID: <C535FE13.10B10%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Ryan,

That's how I've done things thus far. Run composer to look for new files, remote desktop install my current package, run patches, and then clean up the package.

I've only done this because some of the MPKG files I've used in the past would error out. I had this particular issue with Office 2008 SP1 in particular from an SMB share, and was given this response from support:

"Certain .MPKG can be pushed with Casper but not all. The third party manufacture allows certain parameters that will prevent a proper installation. Examples include not being able to install to another partition, not be able to install over a network, etc. so our suggestion is to try and if it works then great but if not then create a composer package. So this is always an option to take when running into a problem like this."

So I would follow the advice at the end there. Test test test, if it works, cool...then I'd use a packaged updater. I just make a package because then when an new machine is imaged it's just already up to date. Just a matter of preference I imagine.

Craig E

On 11/4/08 1:03 PM, "Ryan Harter" <rharter at uwsp.edu> wrote:

I haven't gotten into any updaters yet, but can't we just run composer and have it look for new and modified files, install all the updaters to MS Office, and then push the resulting package as a "slipstreamed" update.

I only ask because I was just about to do that for MS Office and though someone else might have done this before.


Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu <mailto:Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu>


On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:55 AM, sean.hansell at jwt.com wrote:


The way I've managed this is by chaining policies based on smart-groups tagge to Application version.

In your case for instance, I have a smart-group whose members consist of computers running 12.1.1, and 12.1.2 (Our Office 2008 package is 12.1.1). A policy is in place to deploy 12.1.3 to that members of that smart group (make sure to remember to add "Update Inventory" to the advanced tab in the polciy.

Then you can create a simliar smart group of users that have 12.1.3, and create a policy to deploy 12.1.4 to members of that second smart group.

Users that have any version prior to 12.1.3 will not get 12.1.4 until they are updated to 12.1.3, as they move from one smart group to the second; "Slipstreaming", as you say. In practice the whole process happens relatively quickly and efficiently.

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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Tue Nov  4 12:19:06 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:19:06 -0600
Subject: [Casper] set network time at startup?
Message-ID: <OFF5158DF5.D0228FDE-ON862574F7.006E3245-862574F7.0070242E@spps.org>

I got Issues with timesync  on dual-boot macs. 

We have AD which is more time sensitive now and some people are having 
login issues when going back and forth between Mac OS and WinXP on 
BootCamp.   So I've been reading a lot about this and haven't found a good 
fix. 
I have the network time sync checked to time.apple.com, Windows has a 
policy to sync to time.apple.com also.   It doesn't seem to sync all the 
time but usually at start and login with local account but not with AD 
accts all the time.   I think this is partly due to the wireless not 
always loading to the known SSID before the Login Window loads. 

I'd like to set two time servers in ntpd.conf  one internal and one 
external,  for users that take their laptops home.
 then I'd like a startup trigger that says, sync network time.  I tried 
ntpdate in Terminal but it says "NTP socket is in use."  and in the 
Console, I get a lot of errors about "(org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key: 
SHAutorizationRight"

Challenges are that this problem is not consistent on different computers, 
so it is hard to recreate.  Any other ideas for help?  And because Casper 
controls startup items and login hooks, I need to send this command using 
Casper.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20070507030228844
http://www.macwindows.com/bootcamp.html#013008c
http://www.macwindows.com/bootcamp.html#010408x


Here are some solutions??
http://www.mazadigital.com/
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24116?viewlocale=en_US
http://refit.sourceforge.net/
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From ric.getter at pcc.edu  Tue Nov  4 12:47:20 2008
From: ric.getter at pcc.edu (Ric Getter)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:47:20 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Advice on package naming conventions?
Message-ID: <005801c93ebe$884e7000$98eb5000$@getter@pcc.edu>

We're a large, multi-campus community college getting ready to deploy the
Casper Suite. We've just gone through the Jump Start and are getting ready
to build our base images, packages and configurations. As JAMF recommended,
we're planning on having a single "librarian" manage the entries on the
Casper server. 

Having been involved in similar ventures, I understand the value of setting
up a good naming convention system early in the game. We have a good system
for naming computers already in place, but it appears that we're going to
have a fair number of packages and a potentially huge number of
configurations on file.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or samples you can offer. Feel
free to forward any files or attachments directly to my e-mail address,
ric.getter at pcc.edu.

Thanks,
Ric

 --
Ric Getter
Portland Community College/Sylvania
Coordinator, Computer Resource Center
(503)977-8036



From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Tue Nov  4 12:55:21 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:55:21 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Advice on package naming conventions?
In-Reply-To: <005801c93ebe$884e7000$98eb5000$@getter@pcc.edu>
Message-ID: <OF6345FA2C.7BFA272E-ON862574F7.00722072-862574F7.00737590@spps.org>

Ric,

Here in K-12 land we may do things differently and I've changed naming 
conventions only once since starting.  I would be too hard to start over.  
 I set a couple Groups in Casper Admin for packages and scripts and name 
them with abbreviations from the groups.  Example, Curriculum is the group 
and "CUR-" is the prefix of the package name.  We also avoid using spaces 
in the package name.  I think that Craig might have showed me this process 
at our CCA class.   Now with Self-Serivce, I might be adding a group in 
there that is independednt of the type of package. 
I have these package and script Groups.
CUR  - Curriculm    (content related apps, Comic life, Google Earth, 
Everyday Math, SmartBoard, etc.)
ENT -Enterprise Apps  (Read180, FasttMath)
MM - Multimedia (iLife, Audacity, Adobe)
OS - OS packages (OS builds, Parallels, OS updaters )
PRO - Productivity (MS OFfice, Firefox, FileMaker Pro)
UEV - User Environment (dock settings, etc. )
UTL - Utilities (Recon, Text Wrangler, AV, etc.)

The ones I've added for Self -Service Printers, Primary and Secondary 
(grades) 

So far this is working, but I'm not sure it is the best way for everyone.
-Nathaniel

Saint Paul Public Schools, 
MN




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We're a large, multi-campus community college getting ready to deploy the
Casper Suite. We've just gone through the Jump Start and are getting ready
to build our base images, packages and configurations. As JAMF 
recommended,
we're planning on having a single "librarian" manage the entries on the
Casper server. 

Having been involved in similar ventures, I understand the value of 
setting
up a good naming convention system early in the game. We have a good 
system
for naming computers already in place, but it appears that we're going to
have a fair number of packages and a potentially huge number of
configurations on file.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or samples you can offer. Feel
free to forward any files or attachments directly to my e-mail address,
ric.getter at pcc.edu.

Thanks,
Ric

 --
Ric Getter
Portland Community College/Sylvania
Coordinator, Computer Resource Center
(503)977-8036


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Nov  4 13:24:51 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:24:51 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Advice on package naming conventions?
In-Reply-To: <005801c93ebe$884e7000$98eb5000$@getter@pcc.edu>
Message-ID: <C53619C8.10B36%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Hi Ric,

The format we've used here is basically how we would organize things in a "start menu" type scenario, but basically making logical categories. You'll find that everyone does it differently.

We have the following categories and description of what they contain in our system, and most of these pre-date my managing this system:

Adobe - It became so many packages it had to become it's own, was in suites, but could even break this down to AdobeCS3, AdobeCS4, if you like
Classic - OS9 Apps
Common Applications - Applications that get deployed everywhere by default that don't fit into any other category (Examples: Google Earth, SPSS)
Departmental - If specific department requests/purchases software for a limited set of locations it goes here, it's like Common Applications
Graphics & Web Design - Graphical applictions and web editors (Example: Poser)
Hardware - Scanners, Printers, etc.
Internet - Browsers, IM Clients, Telnet, FTP
Languages - Basically the language packs for the OS if it needs to be delpoyed after the fact
Multimedia - Audio (Audacity), Video (iMovie), Disc Authoring (iDVD), Media Players (Real, QuickTime, Flip4Mac)
Office - Office suites (Office 2008, Office 2004, NeoOffice, etc.)
OS - Base OS Images
Printers - DUH
Scripts - All our scripts are just in one category, but we never had a lot of them to deal with to sort them out
Suites - This group was an afterthought, but iLife is the only thing in here, and could go back under Common Apps
System Configuration - Any packages that modify the operating system and its settings
User Environment - Any packages that modify a user's experience and settings
Utilities - Utility applications like Adobe Reader, KeyServer Client, Self Service, Recon, Refit, Stuffit, etc.

When we create a package we then (almost always) put the prefix of the category on the package, or at least an abbreviation of it. Some examples:

internet-Firefox_3.0.3
office-2008_12.1.4
os-X.5.4
ue-X5_Universal_Dock (Short for user environment, and X5 meaning for Leopard)
sys-res-1024x768x32x75 (Short for system configuration)

You get the jist of it. The other thing we do with each package is have a folder at the root of the drive called 'Shortcuts', and then we build a folder structure for these categories and in some instances sub-categories, and place an alias to the application in the appropriate folder. We then place the shortcuts folder as part of the dock as a list so it expands out and does act as a menu for users to access applications if they aren't accustomed to browsing the hard drive, using Spotlight, or whatever people prefer to use. I attached some screens, but they may not go through so if you're interested just email me. With the Shortcuts keep in mind that some categories like Adobe apps and iLife Suite apps have aliases in different places within the Shortcuts folder. Is some of it right or wrong sure...again that's up to you to do what you want. I'm sure we could spend a good day or two here arguing about it.

Craig E

On 11/4/08 2:47 PM, "Ric Getter" <ric.getter at pcc.edu> wrote:

We're a large, multi-campus community college getting ready to deploy the
Casper Suite. We've just gone through the Jump Start and are getting ready
to build our base images, packages and configurations. As JAMF recommended,
we're planning on having a single "librarian" manage the entries on the
Casper server.

Having been involved in similar ventures, I understand the value of setting
up a good naming convention system early in the game. We have a good system
for naming computers already in place, but it appears that we're going to
have a fair number of packages and a potentially huge number of
configurations on file.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or samples you can offer. Feel
free to forward any files or attachments directly to my e-mail address,
ric.getter at pcc.edu.

Thanks,
Ric

 --
Ric Getter
Portland Community College/Sylvania
Coordinator, Computer Resource Center
(503)977-8036


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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Tue Nov  4 14:44:14 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:44:14 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Advice on package naming conventions?
In-Reply-To: <005801c93ebe$884e7000$98eb5000$@getter@pcc.edu>
Message-ID: <C5362C5E.7164%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On 11/4/08 2:47 PM, "Ric Getter" <ric.getter at pcc.edu> wrote:

> We're a large, multi-campus community college getting ready to deploy the
> Casper Suite. We've just gone through the Jump Start and are getting ready
> to build our base images, packages and configurations. As JAMF recommended,
> we're planning on having a single "librarian" manage the entries on the
> Casper server. 
> 
> Having been involved in similar ventures, I understand the value of setting
> up a good naming convention system early in the game. We have a good system
> for naming computers already in place, but it appears that we're going to
> have a fair number of packages and a potentially huge number of
> configurations on file.

Our structure may not be of any interest to you but I do have a few
suggestions:

1. Use abbreviations sparingly.

If you have a few site codes or department codes then that's OK, but I'm
referring to applications. Trying to interpret one person's "QXP652" into
"QuarkXPres 6.52" or translate "APSCS3" as "Adobe Photoshop CS3" is a royal
pain. No one will abbreviate the same.

You have 250+ characters for file names. Use'em. Spell names fully
UsingUpperLowerCase so that they are readable.

2. Include version numbers for every package.

We have a group that likes to push minor updates every once in a while.
Instead of updating and reusing a 1.0 package I duplicate it and version it
to 1.1 or 1.2, etc.

This lets me roll back if necessary.

It also allows me to use a policy to uninstall 1.0 and install 1.1 at the
same time.

3. Determine a naming convention for different types of packages:

    Application (without serial numbers)
    Serial numbers
    Preferences

4. Include licensing in your names.

If you have a serial number file then include all or part of the serial
number in the name to identity it. Do NOT use the group name or the owner.
Licenses can be transferred between groups and people. You don't want to
have to rename a package file and change your JSS just because you're
assigning a license to a different group.


Altogether for an application like DeltaGraph I would have three files:


    Application package
        DeltaGraph5.7.3-UL-1.0.dmg

    Serial number package
        DeltaGraph5.7.3-0123456789-1.0.dmg (serial number file)

    Preferences package
        PreferencesDeltaGraph5.7.3-Comp-UL-1.0.dmg


"Comp" in the preferences package is for our "Composition" group. They would
have their own set of default preferences compared to "Mkt", which is our
"Marketing" group.

I use "UL" (UL = "Unlicensed" or "Unlimited) in names of packages that have
no serial numbers within them to let me know that I don't have to worry
about licensing for that particular package. Without the serial number
package, the application is useless.

And as a matter of habit I stick to upper/lower case letters, numbers,
dashes and periods. No spaces or other symbols, which may make transferring
to Windows servers or backup media difficult.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From CMyers at uclan.ac.uk  Wed Nov  5 00:57:20 2008
From: CMyers at uclan.ac.uk (Criss  Myers)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:57:20 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Advice on package naming conventions?
In-Reply-To: <C53619C8.10B36%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <005801c93ebe$884e7000$98eb5000$@getter@pcc.edu>
	<C53619C8.10B36%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <49115FEF.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk>

Hi Ric, 

As i like to have all macs with roughly the same configuration and
software and as my macs are used by all the University I probaly set
mine up differently 

I have Configurations based on different usages, 

Development (for my use) 
Digital Dark Room 
Laptops 
Open Access / Teaching 
Project Studios 
Staff 
Lab 
OS Only 
Testing 

I then set my categories based on application types etc 

Adobe 
Apple Updates 
Audio 
Core OS 
Core Software 
Drivers 
Login / Logout Hooks 
Printers 
Scanners 
Scripts 
Staff 
Testing 
Utilities 
Video 
OutDated / Removed 

I then have categories for my polices : 

Monthly 
After Imaging 
Startup Items 
Temporary 

Criss


Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054

>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at  9:24 PM, in message
<C53619C8.10B36%ernstcs at uwec.edu>, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
wrote:

Hi Ric,

The format we?ve used here is basically how we would organize things in
a ?start menu? type scenario, but basically making logical categories.
You?ll find that everyone does it differently.

We have the following categories and description of what they contain in
our system, and most of these pre-date my managing this system:

Adobe * It became so many packages it had to become it?s own, was in
suites, but could even break this down to AdobeCS3, AdobeCS4, if you
like
Classic * OS9 Apps
Common Applications * Applications that get deployed everywhere by
default that don?t fit into any other category (Examples: Google Earth,
SPSS)
Departmental * If specific department requests/purchases software for a
limited set of locations it goes here, it?s like Common Applications
Graphics & Web Design * Graphical applictions and web editors (Example:
Poser)
Hardware * Scanners, Printers, etc.
Internet * Browsers, IM Clients, Telnet, FTP
Languages * Basically the language packs for the OS if it needs to be
delpoyed after the fact
Multimedia * Audio (Audacity), Video (iMovie), Disc Authoring (iDVD),
Media Players (Real, QuickTime, Flip4Mac)
Office * Office suites (Office 2008, Office 2004, NeoOffice, etc.)
OS * Base OS Images
Printers - DUH
Scripts * All our scripts are just in one category, but we never had a
lot of them to deal with to sort them out
Suites * This group was an afterthought, but iLife is the only thing in
here, and could go back under Common Apps
System Configuration * Any packages that modify the operating system and
its settings
User Environment * Any packages that modify a user?s experience and
settings
Utilities * Utility applications like Adobe Reader, KeyServer Client,
Self Service, Recon, Refit, Stuffit, etc.

When we create a package we then (almost always) put the prefix of the
category on the package, or at least an abbreviation of it. Some
examples:

internet-Firefox_3.0.3
office-2008_12.1.4
os-X.5.4
ue-X5_Universal_Dock (Short for user environment, and X5 meaning for
Leopard)
sys-res-1024x768x32x75 (Short for system configuration)

You get the jist of it. The other thing we do with each package is have
a folder at the root of the drive called ?Shortcuts?, and then we build
a folder structure for these categories and in some instances
sub-categories, and place an alias to the application in the appropriate
folder. We then place the shortcuts folder as part of the dock as a list
so it expands out and does act as a menu for users to access
applications if they aren?t accustomed to browsing the hard drive, using
Spotlight, or whatever people prefer to use. I attached some screens,
but they may not go through so if you?re interested just email me. With
the Shortcuts keep in mind that some categories like Adobe apps and
iLife Suite apps have aliases in different places within the Shortcuts
folder. Is some of it right or wrong sure...again that?s up to you to 
do
what you want. I?m sure we could spend a good day or two here arguing
about it.

Craig E

On 11/4/08 2:47 PM, "Ric Getter" <ric.getter at pcc.edu> wrote:


We're a large, multi-campus community college getting ready to deploy
the
Casper Suite. We've just gone through the Jump Start and are getting
ready
to build our base images, packages and configurations. As JAMF
recommended,
we're planning on having a single "librarian" manage the entries on the
Casper server.

Having been involved in similar ventures, I understand the value of
setting
up a good naming convention system early in the game. We have a good
system
for naming computers already in place, but it appears that we're going
to
have a fair number of packages and a potentially huge number of
configurations on file.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or samples you can offer.
Feel
free to forward any files or attachments directly to my e-mail address,
ric.getter at pcc.edu.

Thanks,
Ric

 --
Ric Getter
Portland Community College/Sylvania
Coordinator, Computer Resource Center
(503)977-8036


_______________________________________________
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From jstrauss at loyolahs.edu  Wed Nov  5 08:20:35 2008
From: jstrauss at loyolahs.edu (Jeff Strauss)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:20:35 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Self Service updates
Message-ID: <C53707D3.27DF%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>

Hi all,

If a new version of software is released can I just push it out and install it over the old version, or are there maintenance steps I have to take first?


Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265
 [cid:3308718035_120798]

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From Matt.Matsuno at Mattel.com  Wed Nov  5 07:53:12 2008
From: Matt.Matsuno at Mattel.com (Matsuno, Matt)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:53:12 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Acrobat Pro
Message-ID: <C5370168.124E6%Matt.Matsuno@Mattel.com>

Hey everyone, quick question: How are you guys running the Acrobat Pro
updates? Added the AcroProUpd813_all.dmg through Casper Admin and it?s
complaining that it?s not a Valid Adobe Installer or Adobe Updater...
-- 
Thanks
Matt Matsuno
310.252.5221
 
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From damien at mac.com  Wed Nov  5 14:03:01 2008
From: damien at mac.com (Damien Weiss)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:03:01 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Self Service Packages Not Verifying?
In-Reply-To: <OFF5158DF5.D0228FDE-ON862574F7.006E3245-862574F7.0070242E@spps.org>
References: <OFF5158DF5.D0228FDE-ON862574F7.006E3245-862574F7.0070242E@spps.org>
Message-ID: <902B526A-F8ED-43C4-8470-F1437AD1E2E0@mac.com>


Folks:  I've been able to create Self Service packages and policies  
while at the CCA training, but when I have arrived in the office,  
nothing seems to work (typical).

I've pared down the problem to a Prebuilt package.  Trigger is None.   
Frequency is Ongoing.  Scope is All Computers.  "Allow this Policy to  
be user for Self Service" is checked on.  Finally, a package that I  
have manually confirmed as good is set to "Install".

When I go in Self Service, everything looks good, and the app goes  
through some motions when I click on Install, however nothing's  
installed on the client.  Here's what I get on the server log side,  
however:

/usr/sbin/jamf is version 6.01
Executing Policy AJA Kona...
Downloading http://casper:80//Packages//AJA_Kona_Test.dmg...
Verifying DMG...
Error: The downloaded package could not be verified.



Any ideas?

Thanks,
Damien
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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Wed Nov  5 19:28:03 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:28:03 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Self Service Packages Not Verifying?
In-Reply-To: <902B526A-F8ED-43C4-8470-F1437AD1E2E0@mac.com>
Message-ID: <OF48860558.EFD8F8F9-ON862574F9.0012F006-862574F9.00139424@spps.org>

Damien,
Try forcing the policy or package to download over AFP only and see if it 
works.  You might have to disable http: for that sharepoint.  I had some 
issues with packages delieverd over http so am only using AFP for now. 
Really want to use http when it works though.
-Nathaniel




Damien Weiss <damien at mac.com> 
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11/05/08 03:57 PM

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cc

Subject
[Casper] Self Service Packages Not Verifying?







Folks:  I've been able to create Self Service packages and policies while 
at the CCA training, but when I have arrived in the office, nothing seems 
to work (typical).

I've pared down the problem to a Prebuilt package.  Trigger is None. 
Frequency is Ongoing.  Scope is All Computers.  "Allow this Policy to be 
user for Self Service" is checked on.  Finally, a package that I have 
manually confirmed as good is set to "Install".

When I go in Self Service, everything looks good, and the app goes through 
some motions when I click on Install, however nothing's installed on the 
client.  Here's what I get on the server log side, however:

/usr/sbin/jamf is version 6.01
Executing Policy AJA Kona...
Downloading http://casper:80//Packages//AJA_Kona_Test.dmg...
Verifying DMG...
Error: The downloaded package could not be verified.



Any ideas?

Thanks,
Damien_______________________________________________
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From mahughe at kckps.org  Thu Nov  6 13:44:39 2008
From: mahughe at kckps.org (Mark Hughes)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:44:39 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
Message-ID: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>

We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have the image part down no problem.
We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data partition.

For some reason the script we are using errors out during the imaging process, however, when 
we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.

The error from the jss log is as follows:

Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0

The scripts is as follows:

#!/bin/sh

#create two partitions, one data and one for the OS

/usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS+ data 23G

echo 'done'

any ideas?

Thanks in advanced....


Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
Cell 913-449-7791
mahughe at kckps.org

From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Thu Nov  6 13:52:15 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:52:15 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
References: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811061352m7fd56fd6n5f9e5c521be8b8d@mail.gmail.com>

What
are you booted from when you perform the partitioning?  Tiger or Leopard?
The following command is what I typically use.
diskutil partitionDisk disk0 3 HFS+ Macintosh\ HD 40G HFS+ Restore 20G
HFS+ Data 0b
Note that the command above will create a 40 GB Macintosh HD, a 20 GB
Restore (highly recommended), and the "0b" size notation translates to
all available space.  Using "0b" allows you to partition any drive
without worrying about leaving unused free space on the disk.
I'm not familiar with the single quotes on a volume name.  I've always
just escaped the necessary characters.  Here's the command I would use
given the parameters listed in your script...

/usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ Macintosh\ HD 50G HFS+ data 23G

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Mark Hughes <mahughe at kckps.org> wrote:

> We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have the
> image part down no problem.
> We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data partition.
>
> For some reason the script we are using errors out during the imaging
> process, however, when
> we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are imaging
> eMacs to 10.4.11.
>
> The error from the jss log is as follows:
>
> Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error Could
> not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0
>
> The scripts is as follows:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> #create two partitions, one data and one for the OS
>
> /usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS+ data
> 23G
>
> echo 'done'
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advanced....
>
>
> Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
> TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
> Cell 913-449-7791
> mahughe at kckps.org
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Thu Nov  6 13:52:29 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:52:29 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <OF920AFA94.A3742C27-ON862574F9.00774FE9-862574F9.0078B079@spps.org>

I saw this strange problem, too.  Check what the disk# is when netbooted 
vs. firewire.  when I netboot the it is disk0 and with firewire it is 
disk1
check using "diskutil list" in Terminal
-Nathaniel





"Mark Hughes" <mahughe at kckps.org> 
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cc

Subject
[Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging






We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have the 
image part down no problem.
We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data 
partition.

For some reason the script we are using errors out during the imaging 
process, however, when 
we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are 
imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.

The error from the jss log is as follows:

Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error Could 
not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0

The scripts is as follows:

#!/bin/sh

#create two partitions, one data and one for the OS

/usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS+ data 
23G

echo 'done'

any ideas?

Thanks in advanced....


Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
Cell 913-449-7791
mahughe at kckps.org
_______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Thu Nov  6 14:01:35 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:01:35 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
References: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <97F28DCE-F0F1-48AF-9C4B-A70CFBDB2975@uwsp.edu>

Also if you are netbooted you will need to make sure that you have  
checked "diskless" on your netboot image on the server.  Otherwise it  
uses the local disk for "shadow" files and can't unmount it because it  
is in use.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mark Hughes wrote:

> We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have  
> the image part down no problem.
> We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data  
> partition.
>
> For some reason the script we are using errors out during the  
> imaging process, however, when
> we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are  
> imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.
>
> The error from the jss log is as follows:
>
> Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error  
> Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0
>
> The scripts is as follows:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> #create two partitions, one data and one for the OS
>
> /usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS 
> + data 23G
>
> echo 'done'
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advanced....
>
>
> Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
> TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
> Cell 913-449-7791
> mahughe at kckps.org
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu Nov  6 14:01:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:01:57 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <OF920AFA94.A3742C27-ON862574F9.00774FE9-862574F9.0078B079@spps.org>
References: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
	<OF920AFA94.A3742C27-ON862574F9.00774FE9-862574F9.0078B079@spps.org>
Message-ID: <491314F5.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

The weird thing is guys and gals, is that I also have a simple one liner pre image script that uses diskutil to create a single partition on disk0 and name it Macintosh HD, just in case the users changed the volume name. 

That script works, I used the same code in this script and it doesn't work while imaging, but if you run it manually, no problem works like a champ.  Casper version 6.01

>>> <NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org> 11/06/08 3:52 PM >>>

I saw this strange problem, too.  Check what the disk# is when netbooted vs. firewire.  when I netboot the it is disk0 and with firewire it is disk1
check using "diskutil list" in Terminal
-Nathaniel






"Mark Hughes" <mahughe at kckps.org> 
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[Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging 











We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have the image part down no problem.
We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data partition.

For some reason the script we are using errors out during the imaging process, however, when
we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.

The error from the jss log is as follows:

Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0

The scripts is as follows:

#!/bin/sh

#create two partitions, one data and one for the OS

/usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS+ data 23G

echo 'done'

any ideas?

Thanks in advanced....


Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
Cell 913-449-7791
mahughe at kckps.org
_______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
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From CMyers at uclan.ac.uk  Fri Nov  7 00:12:25 2008
From: CMyers at uclan.ac.uk (Criss  Myers)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <491314F5.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
References: <49131020020000A300006CAE@gwoes4.kckps.org>
	<OF920AFA94.A3742C27-ON862574F9.00774FE9-862574F9.0078B079@spps.org>
	<491314F5.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <4913F868.BB96.0081.0@uclan.ac.uk>

This is what i use 

#!/bin/sh 

diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 GPTFormat "HFS+" "Macintosh HD" "80%" "MS-DOS" "Windows" "20%" 

diskutil enableJournal disk0s2 

i run it as the first script before anything else, 

I netinstall using caspers netinstall, 

Im runinng 10.5.4 netinstall and client image 

Criss


Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054

>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, in message <491314F5.7141.0039.0 at kckps.org>, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

The weird thing is guys and gals, is that I also have a simple one liner pre image script that uses diskutil to create a single partition on disk0 and name it Macintosh HD, just in case the users changed the volume name. 


That script works, I used the same code in this script and it doesn't work while imaging, but if you run it manually, no problem works like a champ.  Casper version 6.01

>>> <NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org> 11/06/08 3:52 PM >>>

I saw this strange problem, too.  Check what the disk# is when netbooted vs. firewire.  when I netboot the it is disk0 and with firewire it is disk1
check using "diskutil list" in Terminal
-Nathaniel






"Mark Hughes" <mahughe at kckps.org> 
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[Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging 













We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have the image part down no problem.
We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data partition.

For some reason the script we are using errors out during the imaging process, however, when
we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.

The error from the jss log is as follows:

Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0

The scripts is as follows:

#!/bin/sh

#create two partitions, one data and one for the OS

/usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS+ data 23G

echo 'done'

any ideas?

Thanks in advanced....


Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
Cell 913-449-7791
mahughe at kckps.org
_______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
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From mahughe at kckps.org  Fri Nov  7 06:19:39 2008
From: mahughe at kckps.org (Mark Hughes)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:19:39 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
Message-ID: <4913FA1C020000A300006D36@gwoes4.kckps.org>

okay...this tip got the process to split the drive how we wanted it.  Though it seems as if we are in a
netboot loop.  The test machine now netboots on each restart back to casper imaging.  

Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
Cell 913-449-7791
mahughe at kckps.org
>>> Ryan Harter <rharter at uwsp.edu> 11/06/08 4:09 PM >>>
Also if you are netbooted you will need to make sure that you have  
checked "diskless" on your netboot image on the server.  Otherwise it  
uses the local disk for "shadow" files and can't unmount it because it  
is in use.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mark Hughes wrote:

> We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have  
> the image part down no problem.
> We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data  
> partition.
>
> For some reason the script we are using errors out during the  
> imaging process, however, when
> we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are  
> imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.
>
> The error from the jss log is as follows:
>
> Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error  
> Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0
>
> The scripts is as follows:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> #create two partitions, one data and one for the OS
>
> /usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS 
> + data 23G
>
> echo 'done'
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advanced....
>
>
> Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
> TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
> Cell 913-449-7791
> mahughe at kckps.org
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper



From Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu  Fri Nov  7 06:31:12 2008
From: Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:31:12 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Partitioning Macintosh HD during Imaging
In-Reply-To: <4913FA1C020000A300006D36@gwoes4.kckps.org>
References: <4913FA1C020000A300006D36@gwoes4.kckps.org>
Message-ID: <AB6A0EEB-E9B7-4933-B641-9C38CFEA1F45@uwsp.edu>

In theory the Casper Installer could get confused when you repartition  
the space, as to what to set the boot device too.  You could perhaps  
add to your script after you partition the drive to 'bless' it.  This  
way, even if Casper forgets to set the boot volume, you have already  
done it manually.

I'm not entirely up to speed with the bless command, but I think  
Bombich has some good info on it, or you could 'man bless'.

Hope it helps,
Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Mark Hughes wrote:

> okay...this tip got the process to split the drive how we wanted  
> it.  Though it seems as if we are in a
> netboot loop.  The test machine now netboots on each restart back to  
> casper imaging.
>
> Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
> TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
> Cell 913-449-7791
> mahughe at kckps.org
>>>> Ryan Harter <rharter at uwsp.edu> 11/06/08 4:09 PM >>>
> Also if you are netbooted you will need to make sure that you have
> checked "diskless" on your netboot image on the server.  Otherwise it
> uses the local disk for "shadow" files and can't unmount it because it
> is in use.
>
> Ryan Harter
> UW - Stevens Point
> Workstation Developer
> 715.346.2716
> Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu
>
> On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mark Hughes wrote:
>
>> We are setting up images and netbooting across our network.  We have
>> the image part down no problem.
>> We are wanting to split up the HD into a OS partition and a data
>> partition.
>>
>> For some reason the script we are using errors out during the
>> imaging process, however, when
>> we run it thru target mode to a machine it works perfectly.  We are
>> imaging eMacs to 10.4.11.
>>
>> The error from the jss log is as follows:
>>
>> Result of running split_part.sh was: Partitioning encountered error
>> Could not unmount disk (-10000) on disk disk0
>>
>> The scripts is as follows:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>>
>> #create two partitions, one data and one for the OS
>>
>> /usr/sbin/diskutil partitionDisk disk0 2 HFS+ 'Macintosh HD' 50G HFS
>> + data 23G
>>
>> echo 'done'
>>
>> any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advanced....
>>
>>
>> Mark Hughes, Apple Technician
>> TIS Department, KCKPS USD500
>> Cell 913-449-7791
>> mahughe at kckps.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>

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From Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com  Fri Nov  7 07:32:17 2008
From: Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com (Cyrus Vahhaji)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:32:17 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
Message-ID: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>

Questions for scripting experts. I?m trying to run this as a script and for
some reason its not running. Here is what I?ve scripted.


#!/bin/sh

dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise
admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"

Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the
script using Casper the log says it can?t be found which I?m guessing there
is a syntax error somewhere?

Thanx,
Cyrus
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Fri Nov  7 07:35:39 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
References: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811070735m5758c389p4f31e5eec8d02496@mail.gmail.com>

It would help if you tell us what you're trying to accomplish with the
script.
I can alter this and make it do a bunch of different things.


2008/11/7 Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>

>  Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and
> for some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.
>
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise
> admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"
>
> Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the
> script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there
> is a syntax error somewhere?
>
> Thanx,
> Cyrus
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Fri Nov  7 07:35:53 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:35:53 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
Message-ID: <C539BC79.10D2B%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

The log says those groups can't be found or that the scripts can't be found?

Craig E


On 11/7/08 9:32 AM, "Cyrus Vahhaji" <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com> wrote:

Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and for some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.


#!/bin/sh

dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"

Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there is a syntax error somewhere?

Thanx,
Cyrus
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Fri Nov  7 07:41:03 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:41:03 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
Message-ID: <C539BDAF.10D2E%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I have basically the same thing so I'm not sure what the issue is. If the machine is already bound you don't need to specify the domain in front of the names.

--

#!/bin/sh

######################################################
## This script will add the following group later to AD bindings.
## Created Wednesday, January 9, 2008 - ERNSTCS
######################################################

sleep 90

/usr/sbin/dsconfigad -groups "LAB.BITS.ADMINS,LAB.ADMINS"


--

I have a sleep in there to make sure the services needed to do this are running. This script runs at FirstRun after imaging so I make sure the AD binding part has finished first with the sleep.

You trust your domain and enterprise admins? =)

If the JAMF log is saying it can't even find your script that's a different problem. What happens if you run this script locally on a machine?

Craig E


On 11/7/08 9:32 AM, "Cyrus Vahhaji" <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com> wrote:

Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and for some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.


#!/bin/sh

dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"

Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there is a syntax error somewhere?

Thanx,
Cyrus
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Fri Nov  7 07:44:17 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:44:17 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
References: <C539BBA1.1D672%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
Message-ID: <9D42B30E-A039-4A81-923B-556082E2FF89@uwsp.edu>

You have escaping problems here.  In bash (and sh) '\' is reserved for  
escaping characters.  If you want to put "quotes inside another set of  
quotes, you have to \"escape\" them with '\'".  Right now you are  
escaping 'd' (with \d), etc.  If you want to put those backslashes in,  
you need to also escape them.  That can be done by just replacing them  
with \\ .

A good way to test your string escaping is to just echo it for  
testing.  Test this string with:

echo "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise admins,NA\bby-r- 
corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"

and I think it will return

NAomain admins,NAnterprise admins,NAby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk- 
f,NAby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F

Note that double quotes doesn't solve this, single quotes might, but  
you should really double them up.  Check out this part of the ABS for  
more info: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/escapingsection.html

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 7, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Cyrus Vahhaji wrote:

> Questions for scripting experts. I?m trying to run this as a script  
> and for some reason its not running. Here is what I?ve scripted.
>
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise admins,NA\bby-r- 
> corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"
>
> Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After  
> running the script using Casper the log says it can?t be found which  
> I?m guessing there is a syntax error somewhere?
>
> Thanx,
> Cyrus
> <ATT00001.txt>

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From Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com  Fri Nov  7 07:54:05 2008
From: Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com (Cyrus Vahhaji)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:54:05 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811070735m5758c389p4f31e5eec8d02496@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C539C0BD.1D67C%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>

Trying to add an AD group for the AD plug-in. Like to add
?NA\bby-r-macadminusers-wk-f? to the existing three listed in the script
using dsconfigad command.

Using the command below works fine in terminal but not with the script I?ve
written. Just did a quick test in terminal and the script ran off the
desktop. So there shouldn?t be any syntax errors.

To answer a few questions/commnents  following this email.

* The log says it can?t find the script and not the group.
* I can run the script locally as mentioned above so the syntax should be
OK. 
* I?m not and AD expert and haven?t looked to see who are domain and admin
members. They are populated when the machine is bound. Thanx for bringing
this up and I?ll look to see if they need to be in there or not.
* Ryan, I?m not sure what you mention in your email is causing any issues,
at least not based on running the script locally. Also tried your echo test
and output was as expected.
* I?ve also propagated permissions on the server with no change.

Thanx for all the input.



From: Miles Leacy <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 -0500
To: Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
Cc: <Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [Casper] Scripting help

It would help if you tell us what you're trying to accomplish with the
script.

I can alter this and make it do a bunch of different things.


2008/11/7 Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
> Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and for
> some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.
> 
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise
> admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"
> 
> Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the
> script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there is
> a syntax error somewhere?
> 
> Thanx,
> Cyrus 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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> 
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Fri Nov  7 08:00:42 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:00:42 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help
In-Reply-To: <C539C0BD.1D67C%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
References: <ec2e75ff0811070735m5758c389p4f31e5eec8d02496@mail.gmail.com>
	<C539C0BD.1D67C%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811070800h12534ffej87594ba9f1a6270f@mail.gmail.com>

Are you running this at image time?  If so, it should be run "at reboot",
otherwise you're executing it on your utility drive or whatever you're
booted to while imaging.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>wrote:

>  Trying to add an AD group for the AD plug-in. Like to add
> "NA\bby-r-macadminusers-wk-f" to the existing three listed in the script
> using dsconfigad command.
>
> Using the command below works fine in terminal but not with the script I've
> written. Just did a quick test in terminal and the script ran off the
> desktop. So there shouldn't be any syntax errors.
>
> To answer a few questions/commnents  following this email.
>
>
>    - The log says it can't find the script and not the group.
>    - I can run the script locally as mentioned above so the syntax should
>    be OK.
>    - I'm not and AD expert and haven't looked to see who are domain and
>    admin members. They are populated when the machine is bound. Thanx for
>    bringing this up and I'll look to see if they need to be in there or not.
>    - Ryan, I'm not sure what you mention in your email is causing any
>    issues, at least not based on running the script locally. Also tried your
>    echo test and output was as expected.
>    - I've also propagated permissions on the server with no change.
>
>
> Thanx for all the input.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Miles Leacy <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
> *Date: *Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 -0500
> *To: *Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
> *Cc: *<Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Casper] Scripting help
>
>
> It would help if you tell us what you're trying to accomplish with the
> script.
>
> I can alter this and make it do a bunch of different things.
>
>
> 2008/11/7 Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
>
> Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and for
> some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.
>
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise
> admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"
>
> Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the
> script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there
> is a syntax error somewhere?
>
> Thanx,
> Cyrus
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
>
>
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From Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com  Fri Nov  7 08:39:02 2008
From: Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com (Cyrus Vahhaji)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:39:02 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Scripting help - Issue Solved
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811070800y474cf845v59e6f3e153d0b7d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C539CB46.1D687%Cyrus.Vahhaji@bestbuy.com>

Happy to say problem solved. Wrong permissions! Not sure how this happened.
Usually create my scripts in TextEdit and they typically default to 644 for
permissions. After creating the script I ran chmod +x which should change it
to 755. My script was set to 711.

Currently I?m not using this script at imaging and merely want to add
another AD group to AD plug-in.

Thank you all for your quick responses.

Cyrus


From: Miles Leacy <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:00:23 -0500
To: Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
Subject: Re: [Casper] Scripting help

Are you running this at image time?  If so, it should be run "at reboot",
otherwise you're executing it on your utility drive or whatever you're
booted to while imaging.


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
wrote:
> Trying to add an AD group for the AD plug-in. Like to add
> "NA\bby-r-macadminusers-wk-f" to the existing three listed in the script using
> dsconfigad command.
> 
> Using the command below works fine in terminal but not with the script I've
> written. Just did a quick test in terminal and the script ran off the desktop.
> So there shouldn't be any syntax errors.
> 
> To answer a few questions/commnents  following this email.
> 
> * The log says it can't find the script and not the group.
> * I can run the script locally as mentioned above so the syntax should be OK.
> * I'm not and AD expert and haven't looked to see who are domain and admin
> members. They are populated when the machine is bound. Thanx for bringing this
> up and I'll look to see if they need to be in there or not.
> * Ryan, I'm not sure what you mention in your email is causing any issues, at
> least not based on running the script locally. Also tried your echo test and
> output was as expected.
> * I've also propagated permissions on the server with no change.
> 
> Thanx for all the input.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Miles Leacy <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 -0500
> To: Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
> Cc: <Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [Casper] Scripting help
> 
> 
> It would help if you tell us what you're trying to accomplish with the script.
> 
> I can alter this and make it do a bunch of different things.
> 
> 
> 2008/11/7 Cyrus Vahhaji <Cyrus.Vahhaji at bestbuy.com>
>> Questions for scripting experts. I'm trying to run this as a script and for
>> some reason its not running. Here is what I've scripted.
>> 
>> 
>> #!/bin/sh
>> 
>> dsconfigad -groups "NA\domain admins,NA\enterprise
>> admins,NA\bby-r-corpworkstationadmin-wk-f,NA\bby-r-MacAdminUsers-WK-F"
>> 
>> Does anything jump out that prevents this from running? After running the
>> script using Casper the log says it can't be found which I'm guessing there
>> is a syntax error somewhere?
>> 
>> Thanx,
>> Cyrus 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Casper mailing list
>> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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From matt at pennmanor.net  Mon Nov 10 07:55:51 2008
From: matt at pennmanor.net (Matthew Butch)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:55:51 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?
Message-ID: <3A07A61D-7D3D-4F64-A222-911F12A6E6B8@pennmanor.net>

Sometimes when we are installing packages in Casper Remote, we will  
see a percentage install (ex: "24% installed Office2004.dmg"). But not  
all the time. Does anybody know what the requirements are for this?

The biggest complaint from all of my fellow techs, as well as myself,  
is that we have no idea how fast or even if a package is being  
installed. We were hoping these feature would be added in version 6,  
and it sort of looks like it is (we even see in the log the  
showprogress command) but we can't get it to work on a consistent basis.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Matt


--

Matthew Butch
Technology Support Analyst
Penn Manor School District
717-872-9500 x 2385
http://www.pennmanor.net

Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist 10.4
Apple Certified Support Professional 10.5
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.4 & 10.5
Apple Certified Systems Administrator 10.4



From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov 10 08:03:23 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:03:23 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?
In-Reply-To: <3A07A61D-7D3D-4F64-A222-911F12A6E6B8@pennmanor.net>
Message-ID: <C53DB76B.10E25%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I guess I would appreciate some technical clarification on what makes this happen and not as well.

Craig E


On 11/10/08 9:55 AM, "Matthew Butch" <matt at pennmanor.net> wrote:

Sometimes when we are installing packages in Casper Remote, we will
see a percentage install (ex: "24% installed Office2004.dmg"). But not
all the time. Does anybody know what the requirements are for this?

The biggest complaint from all of my fellow techs, as well as myself,
is that we have no idea how fast or even if a package is being
installed. We were hoping these feature would be added in version 6,
and it sort of looks like it is (we even see in the log the
showprogress command) but we can't get it to work on a consistent basis.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Matt


--

Matthew Butch
Technology Support Analyst
Penn Manor School District
717-872-9500 x 2385
http://www.pennmanor.net

Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist 10.4
Apple Certified Support Professional 10.5
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.4 & 10.5
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From eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com  Mon Nov 10 09:08:32 2008
From: eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com (Eric Winkelhake)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:08:32 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?
In-Reply-To: <C53DB76B.10E25%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <OFAD67D9E6.B709CFB9-ON862574FD.005DFB9A-862574FD.005E29A8@lionresources.com>

I think you'll only see it when you're pushing something to a Leopard box.

***Please note my phone numbers and email address have changed***
Eric Winkelhake
MundocomWW
312.220.1669
312.504.5155
eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com



"Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 
Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
11/10/08 10:03 AM

To
Casper List <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
cc

Subject
Re: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?






I guess I would appreciate some technical clarification on what makes this 
happen and not as well.

Craig E


On 11/10/08 9:55 AM, "Matthew Butch" <matt at pennmanor.net> wrote:

Sometimes when we are installing packages in Casper Remote, we will
see a percentage install (ex: "24% installed Office2004.dmg"). But not
all the time. Does anybody know what the requirements are for this?

The biggest complaint from all of my fellow techs, as well as myself,
is that we have no idea how fast or even if a package is being
installed. We were hoping these feature would be added in version 6,
and it sort of looks like it is (we even see in the log the
showprogress command) but we can't get it to work on a consistent basis.

Any help would be appreciated.

-Matt


--

Matthew Butch
Technology Support Analyst
Penn Manor School District
717-872-9500 x 2385
http://www.pennmanor.net

Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist 10.4
Apple Certified Support Professional 10.5
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.4 & 10.5
Apple Certified Systems Administrator 10.4


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From jstrauss at loyolahs.edu  Mon Nov 10 11:44:09 2008
From: jstrauss at loyolahs.edu (Jeff Strauss)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:44:09 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Target="_blank"
Message-ID: <C53DCF09.28B4%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>

Has anyone tried to open up a new web page from within Self Service? Is target="_blank" possible from inside Self Service to open a new browser window?

Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
(213) 381-5121 x265

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Mon Nov 10 11:53:53 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:53:53 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Target="_blank"
In-Reply-To: <C53DCF09.28B4%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
References: <C53DCF09.28B4%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>
Message-ID: <49183CF1.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

It doesn't work for me 

<a target="_blank" href="http://www.tlarkin.com">tlarkin.com</a> (new
window) 

I also can not right click a link and select open in new window and have
it work. 

Perhaps this should be a feature request.


___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> Jeff Strauss <jstrauss at loyolahs.edu> 11/10/08 1:44 PM >>>

Has anyone tried to open up a new web page from within Self Service? Is
target=?_blank? possible from inside Self Service to open a new browser
window?

Jeffrey A. Strauss
Department of Educational Technology
Systems Administrator
Loyola High School of Los Angeles
1901 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, Ca 90006
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From matt at pennmanor.net  Mon Nov 10 11:57:53 2008
From: matt at pennmanor.net (Matthew Butch)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:57:53 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?
In-Reply-To: <OFAD67D9E6.B709CFB9-ON862574FD.005DFB9A-862574FD.005E29A8@lionresources.com>
References: <OFAD67D9E6.B709CFB9-ON862574FD.005DFB9A-862574FD.005E29A8@lionresources.com>
Message-ID: <09DDF585-E243-4FFB-A95E-75907335E678@pennmanor.net>

But that is not consistent either. We have seen it not work even to a  
Leopard box. Does it matter what version of Casper the package was  
indexed/built with?

-Matt

On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Eric Winkelhake wrote:

>
> I think you'll only see it when you're pushing something to a  
> Leopard box.
>
> ***Please note my phone numbers and email address have changed***
> Eric Winkelhake
> MundocomWW
> 312.220.1669
> 312.504.5155
> eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com
>
>
> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
> Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
> 11/10/08 10:03 AM
>
> To
> Casper List <casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> cc
> Subject
> Re: [Casper] Percentage complete in Casper Remote?
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess I would appreciate some technical clarification on what  
> makes this happen and not as well.
>
> Craig E
>
>
> On 11/10/08 9:55 AM, "Matthew Butch" <matt at pennmanor.net> wrote:
>
> Sometimes when we are installing packages in Casper Remote, we will
> see a percentage install (ex: "24% installed Office2004.dmg"). But not
> all the time. Does anybody know what the requirements are for this?
>
> The biggest complaint from all of my fellow techs, as well as myself,
> is that we have no idea how fast or even if a package is being
> installed. We were hoping these feature would be added in version 6,
> and it sort of looks like it is (we even see in the log the
> showprogress command) but we can't get it to work on a consistent  
> basis.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> --
>
> Matthew Butch
> Technology Support Analyst
> Penn Manor School District
> 717-872-9500 x 2385
> http://www.pennmanor.net
>
> Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
> Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist 10.4
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From Rich.Dagel at landor.com  Tue Nov 11 09:59:59 2008
From: Rich.Dagel at landor.com (Dagel, Rich)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:59:59 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Nav scripts
Message-ID: <C53F081F.229E0%Rich.Dagel@landor.com>

I am trying out the scripts that came with the resource kit.  I am very
happy to have them.  I am getting good feed back with the nav scan saying
how many files where scan and if it found infected files and it shows up in
the policy log.  Not getting any thing for the nav update script in the log
file.  Any ideas.

Rich


Rich Dagel
Senior Technology Specialist

Landor Associates
1001 Front Street
San Francisco, CA 94111
United States
415 365 3933
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Tue Nov 11 11:00:59 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:00:59 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Nav scripts
In-Reply-To: <C53F081F.229E0%Rich.Dagel@landor.com>
Message-ID: <C53F328B.7404%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

Hi Rich!

Is your organization large enough to have a corporate contract with
Symantec? If so then you probably want to be using SAV (corporate) and not
NAV (home use).

Organizations running SAV can also get the Symantec Antivirus Console for
Macintosh (SACM), which allows you to have your SAV clients phone home to a
central console for review.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

On 11/11/08 11:59 AM, "Dagel, Rich" <Rich.Dagel at landor.com> wrote:

> I am trying out the scripts that came with the resource kit.  I am very happy
> to have them.  I am getting good feed back with the nav scan saying how many
> files where scan and if it found infected files and it shows up in the policy
> log.  Not getting any thing for the nav update script in the log file.  Any
> ideas.

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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Tue Nov 11 14:33:42 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:33:42 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
Message-ID: <C53F6466.7436%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

Hi Folks!

I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5 image.
Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that image is
in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper 6.01
system.

This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent the
setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.

When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding that
the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference pane.
It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer and
Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.

Thanks!

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue Nov 11 14:37:55 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:37:55 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F6466.7436%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C53F6563.827B%swood@integerdallas.com>

I am having the exact same problem and the good folks at JAMF are working on
it.  So far we haven't been able to figure out why it is happening.

I have tried pushing just the image, without any extra apps or scripts, and
I've tried it with the scripts and apps.  Both ways yield the same result.

To get around this, I've added to my post image script a piece that pulls
the serial number of the machine and renames the machine to the serial
number.  Not optimal, but it at least makes it easy to ID in ARD after
imaging is done, and then I can go in and manually change it:

# rename computer to the serial number

NewName=`system_profiler | grep "Serial Number" | awk '{print $3}'`
touch /$NewName
#NewName='system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep Serial | awk '{print
$3}''
scutil --set ComputerName $NewName
scutil --set LocalHostName $NewName
scutil --set HostName $NewName



Steve


On 11/11/08 4:33 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks!
> 
> I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5 image.
> Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that image is
> in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper 6.01
> system.
> 
> This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
> combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent the
> setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.
> 
> When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding that
> the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference pane.
> It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
> Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".
> 
> Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer and
> Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.
> 
> Thanks!



Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integerdallas.com

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From swood at integerdallas.com  Tue Nov 11 14:39:54 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:39:54 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CS4 Anyone?
Message-ID: <C53F65DA.827C%swood@integerdallas.com>

I am starting to test CS4 and starting to look at deployment.  I thought I
had seen something from someone on the list about CS4, but I didn?t find it.
Has anyone tried pushing CS4 with Casper, and if so how?  I tried using the
built in method, but Casper doesn?t recognize the Master Suite dmg as a
valid Adobe installer.

Any ideas, aside from building Composer packages?




Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integerdallas.com

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Nov 11 14:39:39 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:39:39 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F6466.7436%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
References: <C53F6466.7436%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <4919B54B.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

If there is no record of that machine in the JSS it won't pull a name down.  I haven't really used instaDMG so I can't give you a full reason why it is doing that.  I just use Composer to make an OS image after I configure it. 

You can try adding a line to your scripts as preflight to name the computer, assuming there is already a name on these boxes you are imaging? 

You can try adding a simple variable to your script 

compname=scutil --get ComputerName 

then just call the $compname in your script to set it like this 



scutil --set ComputerName $compname 

I would double check my syntax there.


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>>> "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> 11/11/08 4:33 PM >>>
Hi Folks!

I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5 image.
Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that image is
in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper 6.01
system.

This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent the
setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.

When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding that
the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference pane.
It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer and
Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.

Thanks!

--

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Nov 11 14:45:10 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:45:10 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CS4 Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <C53F65DA.827C%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <C53F6716.10F5D%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Steve (and everyone)...I would just wait patiently for an updated release from JAMF. I'm sure it will be addressing it. Don't waste your time with other methods or means...unless you want to have fun with their install tool...with the name "UBER" in it...yes I said UBER....what a laugh.

I would be interested to know if you have any end users that are pushing for it and if so what they seem to justify as to what are the advantages to upgrading. I personally don't think there is anything compelling, but I haven't looked too much into it...especially since it won't do 64-bit for Mac.

Craig E


On 11/11/08 4:39 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:

I am starting to test CS4 and starting to look at deployment.  I thought I had seen something from someone on the list about CS4, but I didn't find it.  Has anyone tried pushing CS4 with Casper, and if so how?  I tried using the built in method, but Casper doesn't recognize the Master Suite dmg as a valid Adobe installer.

Any ideas, aside from building Composer packages?




Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integerdallas.com

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T 214.758.6813  |  F 214.758.6901  |  C 940.312.2475


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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Nov 11 14:47:33 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:47:33 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <4919B54B.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C53F67A5.10F5E%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I'm with Tom, I've never used InstaDMG, I've always used Composer. Any compelling reasons you'd like to share as to why you prefer one over the other? I'd be interested to know.

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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Tue Nov 11 16:13:49 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:13:49 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F67A5.10F5E%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C53F7BDD.7444%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On 11/11/08 4:47 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> I?m with Tom, I?ve never used InstaDMG, I?ve always used Composer. Any
> compelling reasons you?d like to share as to why you prefer one over the
> other? I?d be interested to know.

Full disclosure: I?m an InstaDMG n00b but I love the concept. More
information about InstaDMG can be found at
<http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=ImageCreationRevolution&query=insta
dmg>.


With Composer you have to install your Mac OS system, update it, clear
recent items lists, clear recent folders lists and rotate log files. Then
you have to boot to another disk and create a .dmg file from the first disk.
You'll image your Macs with that .dmg file.

InstaDMG allows you to create that same fully patched Mac OS X .dmg file
without having to actually image a master hard disk or boot to another disk.
The concept is similar to Windows slipstreaming.


Here?s the setup.

1. I create a .dmg master of my Mac OS X 10.5.0 retail DVD and place it into
the InstaDMG folder structure on my computer.

2. I download and place the 10.5.5 combo update and other miscellaneous
updates like Airport, Java, ARD, etc., into the InstaDMG folder structure.

3. I run InstaDMG and about 2-1/2 hours later I have a fully patched and
virgin Mac OS X 10.5.5 .dmg file ready to deploy with Casper.

This image has never been logged into. It still doesn't have a user yet and
will go through the Apple Setup Assistant (movie and all) once it has been
imaged onto a real hard drive.

I can take my original InstaDMG folder structure and add a simple text file
to exclude the extra printer drivers, translations and fonts. After I run it
again I now have my smaller Mac OS system for my Restore partition. It's
fully patched and still virgin.

If I need to update my OS images, I simply download the update from Apple,
add it to my original InstaDMG folder structure and run InstaDMG again.

This is where I stop because I prefer to use Casper to image and manage my
Macs. However, you could also add something like the Microsoft Office 2008
installer .pkg file and all its subsequent .pkg updaters to the InstaDMG
folder structure too. You'll have a fully patched virgin Mac OS with a fully
patched Office 2008 installation.


Here's why I like it.

It leaves 0% cruft behind. No remembered servers, no recent items list, no
byhost files, no user preferences, no un-rotated log files. It's perfectly
clean. And the time to create an InstaDMG Mac OS X .dmg file is comparable
to or faster than installing onto a master hard drive, updating, prepping
and then imaging that afterward with Composer. It's certainly less effort.

This goes hand-in-hand with my philosophy of installing a complete set of
software and then using scripts to customize the installation afterward.


Sorry for the long answer. I hope that explains it well.

[This would actually make for a great Casper User Group topic.]

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed Nov 12 05:24:30 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:24:30 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F7BDD.7444%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C540352E.10F80%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I don't think it was too long...very similar to how my responses get sometimes. =)

And I can agree that perhaps it is a good topic for a CUG, but I wanted to bring it up here as well because I think this is the perfect venue to share this information and what it was intended for. It helps educate us all on making the right decisions and using the right tools.

I assume that you still need to build this virgin image on the latest hardware? I don't have to make new OS images often so I've never really tried to improve the process.

When I tried to download InstaDMG from Sourceforge it wasn't available...=/

Thanks, Bill!

Craig E


On 11/11/08 6:13 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

Sorry for the long answer. I hope that explains it well.

[This would actually make for a great Casper User Group topic.]
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Nov 12 05:54:20 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:54:20 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C540352E.10F80%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C5403C2C.1774B%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On Wednesday 11/12/08 7:24 AM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> I don?t think it was too long...very similar to how my responses get
> sometimes. =)
> 
> And I can agree that perhaps it is a good topic for a CUG, but I wanted to
> bring it up here as well because I think this is the perfect venue to share
> this information and what it was intended for. It helps educate us all on
> making the right decisions and using the right tools.

Glad you found it useful. My verbosity is often parallel to my interest in
the subject.:-)
 
> I assume that you still need to build this virgin image on the latest
> hardware? I don?t have to make new OS images often so I?ve never really tried
> to improve the process.

I think the hardware issues where you wanted to build on the latest and
greatest machine in your fleet were primarily limited to Mac OS X 10.4.
That's why I'm only doing this with Leopard. But I couldn't find anything to
reinforce my thinking on this. Building on the latest Mac OS is more
important. The hardware of the machine doesn't come into play at all when
using InstaDMG.
 
> When I tried to download InstaDMG from Sourceforge it wasn?t available...=/

I think it's now completely on AFP548.com. This is the latest release
<http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20080916222225163&query=instadmg>.

Support is sparse and really only done through the AFP548.com forums. Lots
of folks are contributing their experiences, ideas and helper scripts. One
person has provided a CreateUser.pkg package that you can modify to create
that first user (probably your Casper admin user account) and others give
advice for preventing the startup movie. Things like that.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Nov 12 06:02:09 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:02:09 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F6563.827B%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <C5403E01.1774F%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On Tuesday 11/11/08 4:37 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:

> I am having the exact same problem and the good folks at JAMF are working on
> it.  So far we haven't been able to figure out why it is happening.

Glad to hear that. I contacted JAMF Support first and received a reply that
they really don't know InstaDMG that well. They asked me to post here.

What I'd be happy to know is the command that Casper uses to set the machine
name. Is it looking for a file that's not there? Or are they using a
built-in command like systemsetup, which is in different paths in 10.4 and
10.5? Even running that command doesn't set the Hostname, only the Computer
Name.

I'm sure I can work around the problem but that means I'll have to write an
extra script and populate one of the script variable fields in Casper
Imaging with the name. Easy to forget.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Wed Nov 12 06:02:25 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:02:25 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C540352E.10F80%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <C53F7BDD.7444%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
	<C540352E.10F80%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811120602s2af20514m3398bf789d4f5fdd@mail.gmail.com>

I'm testing with the InstaDMG method too, in order to create the base OS
image to be used by Casper.
William described it pretty well.  On the whole, it's intended to image a
complete system for end user deployment, but if you leave out the custom
software packages, you can use it quite well to generate a base image.

InstaDMG consists of a folder structure into which packages (and scripts
encapsulated in payload-free packages), an image of an OS installer disk,
and a script that assembles these pieces into a bootable image.

It installs the OS into an empty dmg file.  Then installs the indicated
packages into that same DMG file, finally prepping the dmg for asr.  It's
actually pretty similar to the manual assembly of scripts I was using for
deployment before I found Casper.

The benefits are a never-booted, customized, updated image.  By installing
onto a target machine, tweaking that machine and then imaging with Composer
or some other disk imaging tool, you end up with user accounts (which you
can still add via the InstaDMG workflow or via Casper) and their associated
home folders, logs, caches, etc.  I haven't done enough testing, but it is
my assumption that an InstaDMG image that was created with the latest OS X
combo updater ought to boot any Apple-supported system that isn't newer than
the combo updater.

The core methodologies of InstaDMG and Casper are very compatible, which is
one of the things that drew me to it.

There are materials and a discussion board for InstaDMG on afp548.com.  Josh
Wisenbaker's held a webcast in April that explains the methodology and
benefits in detail.  I'm not sure if afp548 have an archive of it, but if
you have access to Apple Sales Web, you can download the webcast archive via
iTunes.


2008/11/12 Ernst, Craig S. <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>

>  I don't think it was too long...very similar to how my responses get
> sometimes. =)
>
> And I can agree that perhaps it is a good topic for a CUG, but I wanted to
> bring it up here as well because I think this is the perfect venue to share
> this information and what it was intended for. It helps educate us all on
> making the right decisions and using the right tools.
>
> I assume that you still need to build this virgin image on the latest
> hardware? I don't have to make new OS images often so I've never really
> tried to improve the process.
>
> When I tried to download InstaDMG from Sourceforge it wasn't available...=/
>
> Thanks, Bill!
>
> Craig E
>
>
> On 11/11/08 6:13 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the long answer. I hope that explains it well.
>
> [This would actually make for a great Casper User Group topic.]
>
>
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed Nov 12 06:29:28 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:29:28 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C5403E01.1774F%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C5404468.10F95%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

If I understand correctly Casper will pull the machine name as it exists on Macintosh HD, if you were reimaging a machine that had a readable Macintosh HD partition, or it will pull the machine name from the data it has about that machine in the JSS. As far as the command it's using to do that I imagine the app is simply modifying a plist.

Not sure if it's just: Library -> Preferences -> SystemConfiguration -> com.apple.smb.server.plist

I see it changes the ServerDescription tag, but other than that I'm not sure.

Craig E


On 11/12/08 8:02 AM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

What I'd be happy to know is the command that Casper uses to set the machine
name. Is it looking for a file that's not there? Or are they using a
built-in command like systemsetup, which is in different paths in 10.4 and
10.5? Even running that command doesn't set the Hostname, only the Computer
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From gnowosad at lcsd150.ab.ca  Wed Nov 12 06:29:26 2008
From: gnowosad at lcsd150.ab.ca (Glenn Nowosad)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:29:26 -0700
Subject: [Casper] AD Binding Issues with 10.5
Message-ID: <2EFEAE82-FCAA-42C2-93E3-604754FE2483@lcsd150.ab.ca>

Is anyone having AD binding issues with the 10.5 migration? We have a  
number of laptops and workstations that need to be unbound and rebound  
consistently. Apple is working on the issue as an escalated ticket but  
I am not sure if it is just us or a plugin issue. In some instances  
mobile accounts on a given workstation can't even log into the  
computer with a mobile account already existing on the box. Anyone  
experiencing similar issues???


Glenn Nowosad
Director of Technology
Lakeland Catholic Schools
4810-46 Street Bonnyville, AB, Canada
780-826-3764 District Office
780-812-3414 Tech Shop
http://www.lcsd150.ab.ca
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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Wed Nov 12 06:45:22 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:45:22 -0600
Subject: [Casper] AD Binding Issues with 10.5
In-Reply-To: <2EFEAE82-FCAA-42C2-93E3-604754FE2483@lcsd150.ab.ca>
Message-ID: <OF078AAFB7.5A77BC8D-ON862574FF.0050B0AE-862574FF.00519ABC@spps.org>

I've had similar inconsistent issues.  Usually the computer will bind to 
AD ok manually or via Casper if the computer name is 15 characters or 
less.  Sometimes it still works with longer names and just truncates. 
 My issue is that some known good AD user accts can't login to certain 
machine randomly.  Will work one day and not the next.  Other computers in 
the same lab work, but then go back to the first bad one and it works. 
Timing issue?  I can't nail it down much.  Also, some logins are really 
slow for users, especially the first time they login to a computer and it 
creates the acct, and homedir and settings, 2-3 minutes sometimes.  Maybe 
that is network related, but it frustrates our users. 
Other problem I have is AD users that login and are members of an AD admin 
group that should get local admin rights when logging in, lose that 
setting when they are off our internal network.  Known issue, but various 
fixes with scripts or other WGM tools.  I'd like it to just work they way 
it is supposed to, though.  Call me crazy.
-Nathaniel




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Is anyone having AD binding issues with the 10.5 migration? We have a 
number of laptops and workstations that need to be unbound and rebound 
consistently. Apple is working on the issue as an escalated ticket but 
I am not sure if it is just us or a plugin issue. In some instances 
mobile accounts on a given workstation can't even log into the 
computer with a mobile account already existing on the box. Anyone 
experiencing similar issues???


Glenn Nowosad
Director of Technology
Lakeland Catholic Schools
4810-46 Street Bonnyville, AB, Canada
780-826-3764 District Office
780-812-3414 Tech Shop
http://www.lcsd150.ab.ca
gnowosad at lcsd150.ab.ca




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From jstrauss at loyolahs.edu  Wed Nov 12 07:58:06 2008
From: jstrauss at loyolahs.edu (Jeff Strauss)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:58:06 -0800
Subject: [Casper] AD Binding Issues with 10.5
In-Reply-To: <OF078AAFB7.5A77BC8D-ON862574FF.0050B0AE-862574FF.00519ABC@spps.org>
Message-ID: <C5403D0E.292C%jstrauss@loyolahs.edu>

I've shared Nathaniel's experiences with binding. I've also seen some cases where binding will break when the computer is put into a custom-named container, but will work fine when the default container is used. Oh, and a big annoyance is when I've had to disable a user's home folder in AD because OS X will generate a logon error if the home folder's enabled. It's been random, and has only occurred with a few users, but it's annoying nonetheless.

- Jeff

On 11/12/08 6:45 AM, "NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org" <NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org> wrote:


I've had similar inconsistent issues.  Usually the computer will bind to AD ok manually or via Casper if the computer name is 15 characters or less.  Sometimes it still works with longer names and just truncates.
 My issue is that some known good AD user accts can't login to certain machine randomly.  Will work one day and not the next.  Other computers in the same lab work, but then go back to the first bad one and it works.  Timing issue?  I can't nail it down much.  Also, some logins are really slow for users, especially the first time they login to a computer and it creates the acct, and homedir and settings, 2-3 minutes sometimes.  Maybe that is network related, but it frustrates our users.
Other problem I have is AD users that login and are members of an AD admin group that should get local admin rights when logging in, lose that setting when they are off our internal network.  Known issue, but various fixes with scripts or other WGM tools.  I'd like it to just work they way it is supposed to, though.  Call me crazy.
-Nathaniel



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[Casper] AD Binding Issues with 10.5




Is anyone having AD binding issues with the 10.5 migration? We have a
number of laptops and workstations that need to be unbound and rebound
consistently. Apple is working on the issue as an escalated ticket but
I am not sure if it is just us or a plugin issue. In some instances
mobile accounts on a given workstation can't even log into the
computer with a mobile account already existing on the box. Anyone
experiencing similar issues???


Glenn Nowosad
Director of Technology
Lakeland Catholic Schools
4810-46 Street Bonnyville, AB, Canada
780-826-3764 District Office
780-812-3414 Tech Shop
http://www.lcsd150.ab.ca
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From swood at integerdallas.com  Wed Nov 12 08:18:11 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:18:11 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C5404468.10F95%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C5405DE3.82C4%swood@integerdallas.com>

The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf binary to
rename:

sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name "JAMF"

When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref panel until
the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the machine showed the new name,
JAMF in this case.  We then tried using hostname to set the name, but this
not only did not change the Sharing pane but it also did not change on
restart.

I have had the problem on brand new machines, fresh out of the box, where I
have tried setting the name in Casper Imaging, or setting it to MAC or S/N.
Each time the machine comes up with no name and shows up in the JSS as
{Network {HostNames {.




On 11/12/08 8:29 AM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> If I understand correctly Casper will pull the machine name as it exists on
> Macintosh HD, if you were reimaging a machine that had a readable Macintosh HD
> partition, or it will pull the machine name from the data it has about that
> machine in the JSS. As far as the command it?s using to do that I imagine the
> app is simply modifying a plist.
> 
> Not sure if it?s just: Library -> Preferences -> SystemConfiguration ->
> com.apple.smb.server.plist
> 
> I see it changes the ServerDescription tag, but other than that I?m not sure.
> 
> Craig E
> 
> 
> On 11/12/08 8:02 AM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:
> 
>> What I'd be happy to know is the command that Casper uses to set the machine
>> name. Is it looking for a file that's not there? Or are they using a
>> built-in command like systemsetup, which is in different paths in 10.4 and
>> 10.5? Even running that command doesn't set the Hostname, only the Computer
>> Name.
> 
> 
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Wed Nov 12 08:51:58 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:51:58 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C5405DE3.82C4%swood@integerdallas.com>
References: <C5404468.10F95%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
	<C5405DE3.82C4%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811120851h44d532a4sd90c46c0530b698d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/11/12 Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com>

>  The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf binary to
> rename:
>
> sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name "JAMF"
>
> When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref panel until
> the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the machine showed the new name,
> JAMF in this case.
>

If you execute "hostname" after running this command, what is the output?

What about "scutil --get ComputerName"?

I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new name in the
system tools that you will interact with, but you just don't see it in the
GUI until restart, is that really a problem?
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Nov 12 09:31:39 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:31:39 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811120851h44d532a4sd90c46c0530b698d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5406F1B.7496%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On 11/12/08 10:51 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

> I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new name in the
> system tools that you will interact with, but you just don't see it in the GUI
> until restart, is that really a problem?

I?m not finding that this is an appearance issue. The Computer Name doesn't
get populated and the Hostname returns as "Macintosh.local".

I rely on Casper (or Casper Imaging) to enter the name during the time of
imaging a machine because we don?t pre-populate our JSS with machine data
and pull names. If the machine name is not present on the computer after
imaging then Active Directory and Open Directory binding doesn?t happen
correctly.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From Chris.Lang at vu.edu.au  Wed Nov 12 14:22:46 2008
From: Chris.Lang at vu.edu.au (Chris Lang)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:22:46 +1100
Subject: [Casper] AD Binding Issues with 10.5
In-Reply-To: <2EFEAE82-FCAA-42C2-93E3-604754FE2483@lcsd150.ab.ca>
Message-ID: <C541A266.8283%Chris.Lang@vu.edu.au>

I am having similar issues here as well.  Mostly to do with intermittently
being unable to login to a machine via AD even though OS X indicates it is
bound and can communicate with the domain.

I also found that sporadically machines would lose connectivity to the DC
and would require an unbind and rebind to get logins to work again.

After a bit of prompting our networks people created a service account for
binding and so far things have improved a little.  Still get the occasional
user who cant login so I am not sure if it is timing between client and
server (clients are pointing at our internal NTP server).

Hopefully Apple get this one sorted as it is painful.


On 13/11/08 1:29 AM, "Glenn Nowosad" <gnowosad at lcsd150.ab.ca> wrote:

> Is anyone having AD binding issues with the 10.5 migration? We have a
> number of laptops and workstations that need to be unbound and rebound
> consistently. Apple is working on the issue as an escalated ticket but
> I am not sure if it is just us or a plugin issue. In some instances
> mobile accounts on a given workstation can't even log into the
> computer with a mobile account already existing on the box. Anyone
> experiencing similar issues???
> 
> 
> Glenn Nowosad
> Director of Technology
> Lakeland Catholic Schools
> 4810-46 Street Bonnyville, AB, Canada
> 780-826-3764 District Office
> 780-812-3414 Tech Shop
> http://www.lcsd150.ab.ca
> gnowosad at lcsd150.ab.ca
> 
> 
> 
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From swood at integerdallas.com  Thu Nov 13 11:00:50 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:00:50 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811120851h44d532a4sd90c46c0530b698d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C541D582.837F%swood@integerdallas.com>

After executing the jamf binary command, and then using hostname or scutil,
I still receive the old name of the computer.  So, it appears that the jamf
command must write to a startup item that renames the computer.  Again, upon
restart the name is changed.



On 11/12/08 10:51 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

> 2008/11/12 Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com>
>> The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf binary to rename:
>> 
>> sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name "JAMF"
>> 
>> When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref panel until
>> the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the machine showed the new name,
>> JAMF in this case.
> 
> If you execute "hostname" after running this command, what is the output?
> 
> What about "scutil --get ComputerName"?
> 
> I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new name in the
> system tools that you will interact with, but you just don't see it in the GUI
> until restart, is that really a problem?
> 
> 



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From swood at integerdallas.com  Thu Nov 13 11:02:07 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:02:07 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CS4 Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <C53F6716.10F5D%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C541D5CF.8381%swood@integerdallas.com>

Right now I have no end users pushing for this, but it is just a matter of
time before our interactive department wants to get a hold of Flash and
Premier.  I am just trying to be proactive and test different methods for
deployment.

And no way do I want to use the Uber deployment method....what a joke.


On 11/11/08 4:45 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> Steve (and everyone)...I would just wait patiently for an updated release from
> JAMF. I?m sure it will be addressing it. Don?t waste your time with other
> methods or means...unless you want to have fun with their install tool...with
> the name ?UBER? in it...yes I said UBER....what a laugh.
> 
> I would be interested to know if you have any end users that are pushing for
> it and if so what they seem to justify as to what are the advantages to
> upgrading. I personally don?t think there is anything compelling, but I
> haven?t looked too much into it...especially since it won?t do 64-bit for Mac.
> 
> Craig E
> 
> 
> On 11/11/08 4:39 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am starting to test CS4 and starting to look at deployment.  I thought I
>> had seen something from someone on the list about CS4, but I didn?t find it.
>> Has anyone tried pushing CS4 with Casper, and if so how?  I tried using the
>> built in method, but Casper doesn?t recognize the Master Suite dmg as a valid
>> Adobe installer.
>> 
>> Any ideas, aside from building Composer packages?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Wood
>> Director of IT
>> swood at integerdallas.com
>> 
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Thu Nov 13 11:08:53 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:08:53 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C541D582.837F%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <C541D765.11060%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

No, it does not name it at startup for FirstRun, once the OS is laid down and the packages, it runs commands against Macintosh HD to name it before you boot to it. That would be why when you reboot you see the correct name.

Craig

On 11/13/08 1:00 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:

After executing the jamf binary command, and then using hostname or scutil, I still receive the old name of the computer.  So, it appears that the jamf command must write to a startup item that renames the computer.  Again, upon restart the name is changed.



On 11/12/08 10:51 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

2008/11/12 Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com>
The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf binary to rename:

sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name "JAMF"

When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref panel until the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the machine showed the new name, JAMF in this case.

If you execute "hostname" after running this command, what is the output?

What about "scutil --get ComputerName"?

I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new name in the system tools that you will interact with, but you just don't see it in the GUI until restart, is that really a problem?





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Director of IT
swood at integerdallas.com

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From swood at integerdallas.com  Thu Nov 13 11:43:01 2008
From: swood at integerdallas.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:43:01 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C541D765.11060%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C541DF65.8386%swood@integerdallas.com>

And to be clear, the tests I?m running are on a system that is already
imaged and running, and issuing the commands from the terminal.  I am not
laying down a new image on the machine.


On 11/13/08 1:08 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

> No, it does not name it at startup for FirstRun, once the OS is laid down and
> the packages, it runs commands against Macintosh HD to name it before you boot
> to it. That would be why when you reboot you see the correct name.
> 
> Craig
> 
> On 11/13/08 1:00 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:
> 
>> After executing the jamf binary command, and then using hostname or scutil, I
>> still receive the old name of the computer.  So, it appears that the jamf
>> command must write to a startup item that renames the computer.  Again, upon
>> restart the name is changed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/12/08 10:51 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2008/11/12 Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com>
>>>> The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf binary to
>>>> rename:
>>>> 
>>>> sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name "JAMF"
>>>> 
>>>> When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref panel until
>>>> the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the machine showed the new name,
>>>> JAMF in this case.
>>> 
>>> If you execute "hostname" after running this command, what is the output?
>>> 
>>> What about "scutil --get ComputerName"?
>>> 
>>> I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new name in the
>>> system tools that you will interact with, but you just don't see it in the
>>> GUI until restart, is that really a problem?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Wood
>> Director of IT
>> swood at integerdallas.com
>> 
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Thu Nov 13 11:56:50 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:56:50 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C541DF65.8386%swood@integerdallas.com>
References: <C541DF65.8386%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <4D9E9E96-D7F9-4462-9F0C-ADD4D00484F4@uwsp.edu>

This may have been said, but I have seen when imaging a machine that  
Casper does not seem to set all of the "computer names."  What I mean  
by this is that you can set the computer name using scutil with three  
different locations, ComputerName, HostName, and LocalHostName.  I  
don't remember exactly what each is used for, but in the past we've  
always wanted all of them to be set.  I've found the most reliable  
solution for this is to run a script at reboot that does:

#!/bin/bash

computerName=$2

scutil -set ComputerName $computerName
scutil -set HostName $computerName
scutil -set LocalHostName $computerName



This is only a workaround, but reliably renames the computer.  I've  
had issues where the computer just gets the name of the machine I  
built the base image on if I don't.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 13, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Steve Wood wrote:

> And to be clear, the tests I?m running are on a system that is  
> already imaged and running, and issuing the commands from the  
> terminal.  I am not laying down a new image on the machine.
>
>
> On 11/13/08 1:08 PM, "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:
>
>> No, it does not name it at startup for FirstRun, once the OS is  
>> laid down and the packages, it runs commands against Macintosh HD  
>> to name it before you boot to it. That would be why when you reboot  
>> you see the correct name.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On 11/13/08 1:00 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After executing the jamf binary command, and then using hostname  
>>> or scutil, I still receive the old name of the computer.  So, it  
>>> appears that the jamf command must write to a startup item that  
>>> renames the computer.  Again, upon restart the name is changed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/12/08 10:51 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2008/11/12 Steve Wood <swood at integerdallas.com>
>>>>> The test that the JAMF folks had me try was to use the jamf  
>>>>> binary to rename:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo jamf setComputerName -target "/Volumes/Macintosh HD/" -name  
>>>>> "JAMF"
>>>>>
>>>>> When we did that the name would not change in the Sharing Pref  
>>>>> panel until the machine was restarted.  Once restarted the  
>>>>> machine showed the new name, JAMF in this case.
>>>>
>>>> If you execute "hostname" after running this command, what is the  
>>>> output?
>>>>
>>>> What about "scutil --get ComputerName"?
>>>>
>>>> I ask because if the name is being changed, and it shows the new  
>>>> name in the system tools that you will interact with, but you  
>>>> just don't see it in the GUI until restart, is that really a  
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Wood
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Fri Nov 14 05:34:10 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:34:10 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
Message-ID: <C542E882.16E07%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
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ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Fri Nov 14 05:34:10 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:34:10 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
Message-ID: <C542E882.16E07%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Fri Nov 14 05:46:24 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:46:24 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <C542E882.16E07%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <C542E882.16E07%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811140546t490bc29cl75fdbea8e45f066e@mail.gmail.com>

Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are you the
only person who has the password to an account that can delete items from
Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare?

2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Hi All-
>
> I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office
> self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's been
> deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare mount in
> the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for
> a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using the JSS utility
> but no luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Fri Nov 14 06:37:21 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:37:21 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811140546t490bc29cl75fdbea8e45f066e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C542E882.16E07%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
	<ec2e75ff0811140546t490bc29cl75fdbea8e45f066e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <491D38C1.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

I assume you have it hosted on an OS X server?  Are the ACLs and
permissions for your read only and read/write account set properly on
the server side?  I have never seen a script "delete itself" before. 
Any other data on that casper share that is coming up missing?

>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/14/08 7:46 AM >>>
Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are you
the only person who has the password to an account that can delete items
from Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare? 




2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared 
<jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> 




Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office
self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's
been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare
mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it,
it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using
the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500


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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Fri Nov 14 07:12:10 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <491D38C1.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Yes, it's on OS X Server, Leopard.  On the CasperShare sharepoint, there's currently nobody in the ACL and the POSIX read "casperadmin" as having ownership, "staff" group as read only and others having read only.  I'm the only one with access to the server and the only interaction that I do with the CasperShare sharepoint is through the Caser Admin app.  Nothing else is going missing.

Currently, that script is the only script that I have, but I'm about to add another. I'll see if it happens to that one as well.

Thanks

j
On 11/14/08 09:37 , "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:



 I assume you have it hosted on an OS X server?  Are the ACLs and permissions for your read only and read/write account set properly on the server side?  I have never seen a script "delete itself" before.  Any other data on that casper share that is coming up missing?

>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/14/08 7:46 AM >>>
Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are you the only person who has the password to an account that can delete items from Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare?













 2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared



 <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>










 Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500






 _______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
Casper at listjamfsoftware.com <mailto:Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper












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ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Fri Nov 14 07:12:10 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <491D38C1.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Yes, it's on OS X Server, Leopard.  On the CasperShare sharepoint, there's currently nobody in the ACL and the POSIX read "casperadmin" as having ownership, "staff" group as read only and others having read only.  I'm the only one with access to the server and the only interaction that I do with the CasperShare sharepoint is through the Caser Admin app.  Nothing else is going missing.

Currently, that script is the only script that I have, but I'm about to add another. I'll see if it happens to that one as well.

Thanks

j
On 11/14/08 09:37 , "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:



 I assume you have it hosted on an OS X server?  Are the ACLs and permissions for your read only and read/write account set properly on the server side?  I have never seen a script "delete itself" before.  Any other data on that casper share that is coming up missing?

>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/14/08 7:46 AM >>>
Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are you the only person who has the password to an account that can delete items from Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare?













 2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared



 <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>










 Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500






 _______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
Casper at listjamfsoftware.com <mailto:Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper












--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From tlarki at kckps.org  Fri Nov 14 08:13:50 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:13:50 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <491D38C1.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <491D4F5E.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Jared 

For simplicities sake, I recommend you keep the server administrator
owner of every casper share item and then create ACLs for casper admin
and casper install.   That way every time you sync down packages and
scripts you can simply populate the ownership and ACLs on down to ensure
they are proper.  I also create two local accounts on each casper
server, one casper install and one casper admin, that way I only have
one account that can read/write, and one account that can read only.   

I guess it is possible if the account that is reading the script is also
writing to it, by deleting it afterward. 

When you push the script out manually through casper remote does it
delete itself?


___________________________
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KCKPS USD500
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>>> "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> 11/14/08 9:12 AM >>>

Yes, it?s on OS X Server, Leopard.  On the CasperShare sharepoint,
there?s currently nobody in the ACL and the POSIX read ?casperadmin?
as having ownership, ?staff? group as read only and others having read
only.  I?m the only one with access to the server and the only
interaction that I do with the CasperShare sharepoint is through the
Caser Admin app.  Nothing else is going missing.

Currently, that script is the only script that I have, but I?m about to
add another. I?ll see if it happens to that one as well.

Thanks

j
On 11/14/08 09:37 , "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


  

  

I assume you have it hosted on an OS X server?  Are the ACLs and
permissions for your read only and read/write account set properly on
the server side?  I have never seen a script "delete itself" before. 
Any other data on that casper share that is coming up missing?


>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/14/08 7:46 AM >>>
Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are you
the only person who has the password to an account that can delete items
from Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare?    
 
 

 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 

 2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared          
 
 

 <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>            
 
 

 
 
 


 
 

 Hi All-

I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my office
self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper Admin, it's
been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to the CasperShare
mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's gone.  If I replace it,
it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired permissions on the share using
the JSS utility but no luck.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
                
 
 
 

 
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From rharter at uwsp.edu  Fri Nov 14 08:41:44 2008
From: rharter at uwsp.edu (Ryan Harter)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:41:44 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Script keeps deleting
In-Reply-To: <C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <C542FF7A.16E0F%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <72BE6F87-E04F-4686-AE6E-AF3E66229B27@uwsp.edu>

Have you changed your master file server recently, or could you be  
adding the script to a server that's not your master.  We had issues  
when we changed our master where it would sync to another server and  
delete anything new on it because it wasn't syncing the right way.

Ryan Harter
UW - Stevens Point
Workstation Developer
715.346.2716
Ryan.Harter at uwsp.edu

On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Nichols, Jared wrote:

> Yes, it?s on OS X Server, Leopard.  On the CasperShare sharepoint,  
> there?s currently nobody in the ACL and the POSIX read ?casperadmin?  
> as having ownership, ?staff? group as read only and others having  
> read only.  I?m the only one with access to the server and the only  
> interaction that I do with the CasperShare sharepoint is through the  
> Caser Admin app.  Nothing else is going missing.
>
> Currently, that script is the only script that I have, but I?m about  
> to add another. I?ll see if it happens to that one as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> j
> On 11/14/08 09:37 , "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>  I assume you have it hosted on an OS X server?  Are the ACLs and  
> permissions for your read only and read/write account set properly  
> on the server side?  I have never seen a script "delete itself"  
> before.  Any other data on that casper share that is coming up  
> missing?
>
> >>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/14/08 7:46 AM >>>
> Just to cover the "is it plugged in" level of troubleshooting... are  
> you the only person who has the password to an account that can  
> delete items from Casper Admin, or directly from the CasperShare?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  2008/11/14 Nichols, Jared
>
>
>
>  <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Hi All-
>
> I have a script that I run for post-Office installation set in my  
> office self service policy.  Every few days, when I open Casper  
> Admin, it's been deleted and appears in red "missing."  If I go to  
> the CasperShare mount in the scripts folder, sure enough, it's  
> gone.  If I replace it, it's fine for a few days.  I've repaired  
> permissions on the share using the JSS utility but no luck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at listjamfsoftware.com <mailto:Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com>
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From david.lundgren at brooks.edu  Fri Nov 14 12:37:52 2008
From: david.lundgren at brooks.edu (David Lundgren)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:37:52 -0800
Subject: [Casper] set network time at startup?
In-Reply-To: <OFF5158DF5.D0228FDE-ON862574F7.006E3245-862574F7.0070242E@spps.org>
Message-ID: <C54321A1.19F78%david.lundgren@brooks.edu>

We've had the same problems with time issues on our Macs and ended up
writing a custom synchronization script. It could handle some enhancements
and possibly hooking into the system better. Right now it waits for 2
minutes before trying to synchronize on startup. We also have the script run
every day at 9am (via /etc/periodic/daily).

We use the servers in this order:
1) time.nist.gov
2) the ADC

Each computer synchronizes twice. Once for each server in the list.

I haven't tested it on Leopard yet, but I know on Tiger you had to kill
Ntpd and ntpdate in order to get the time to actually be updated, which is
why you get "NTP socket is in use." errors.

I've attached the script that we run, if you plan on using it you should
replace "time.example.com" with the server you want it to sync with.

Hope that helps, and gives you a direction to look in.

David Lundgren
IT Systems Administrator

Brooks Institute - "Passion, Vision, Excellence"
27 East Cota Street
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
(888) 304-3456 (toll-free)
(805) 690-7615 (office)
http://www.brooks.edu


On 11/4/08 1:19 PM, "NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org"
<NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org> wrote:

> I got Issues with timesync  on dual-boot macs.
> 
> We have AD which is more time sensitive now and some people are having
> login issues when going back and forth between Mac OS and WinXP on
> BootCamp.   So I've been reading a lot about this and haven't found a good
> fix. 
> 
> I'd like to set two time servers in ntpd.conf  one internal and one
> external,  for users that take their laptops home.
>  then I'd like a startup trigger that says, sync network time.  I tried
> ntpdate in Terminal but it says "NTP socket is in use."  and in the
> Console, I get a lot of errors about "(org.ntp.ntpd) Unknown key:
> SHAutorizationRight"
> 

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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Mon Nov 17 13:05:44 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
Message-ID: <C54746D8.16E97%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm looking for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10 machines or so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments and management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this static group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.

Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other way? I thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but that wouldn't work in my case.

Ideas?

Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Mon Nov 17 13:30:33 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:30:33 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
In-Reply-To: <C54746D8.16E97%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <C54746D8.16E97%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811171330k2ef7b47waa1f6d22a75930ae@mail.gmail.com>

I don't believe that group membership can be a criterion for a smart group.
 Perhaps that can be a feature request.
Does your static group have any other common elements?

If they're on the same isolated subnet, you can create a Network Segment for
them and use that as the common criterion.

You could create a "beta testing" Department and add all of these machines
to it and then scope down your smart group from there, i.e., by having
criteria of "beta testing" department and >0 SW updates available.


2008/11/17 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm looking
> for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10 machines or
> so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments and
> management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this static
> group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.
>
> Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other way? I
> thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but that
> wouldn't work in my case.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
>
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov 17 13:36:40 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:36:40 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
In-Reply-To: <C54746D8.16E97%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C5474008.111F1%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

If you know the names of the systems you could add criteria for Computer Name IS <name> OR for each of the machines since there aren't many.

Add a unique local user account to the systems so you could flag them in the receipts local accounts criteria. Whack the account when you're done.

Otherwise as Miles suggests...feature request, but having a static smart group doesn't make sense as I pretty much would use the word dynamic in place of smart.

Craig E

On 11/17/08 3:05 PM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm looking for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10 machines or so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments and management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this static group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.

Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other way? I thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but that wouldn't work in my case.

Ideas?

Thanks!
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From cmyers at uclan.ac.uk  Mon Nov 17 16:25:37 2008
From: cmyers at uclan.ac.uk (Criss  Myers)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:25:37 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
Message-ID: <49220B81020000810003743F@gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk>

hi,

yes thats what i do for pilot and testing macs, i create a department
and put them in it

Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054
>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 17/11/08 9:30 PM >>>
I don't believe that group membership can be a criterion for a smart
group.
 Perhaps that can be a feature request.
Does your static group have any other common elements?

If they're on the same isolated subnet, you can create a Network Segment
for
them and use that as the common criterion.

You could create a "beta testing" Department and add all of these
machines
to it and then scope down your smart group from there, i.e., by having
criteria of "beta testing" department and >0 SW updates available.


2008/11/17 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm
looking
> for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10
machines or
> so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments
and
> management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this
static
> group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.
>
> Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other
way? I
> thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but
that
> wouldn't work in my case.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
>


From richard.hunter at squaregroup.co.uk  Tue Nov 18 04:09:10 2008
From: richard.hunter at squaregroup.co.uk (Richard Hunter)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:09:10 +0000
Subject: [Casper] Permission problems when using FUT
Message-ID: <C54860E6.602A%richard.hunter@squaregroup.co.uk>

Hey Guys

When I deploy settings for the user specifically (system preference settings
eg screensaver etc) and the machine is at the login screen. The preference
files will be added to the users preference folder but all the permissions
are wrong, the settings will not apply and because I am using mobile
accounts I then have issues when the new pref files will not sync. If
however, I log into the user account and then deploy the prefs they work
correctly. How do I get this working without logging into the users account.

I am also having an issue where my login policies from casper do not deploy
at all. They are set to once per user at login and nothing happens.

Any ideas?


Using mobile accounts on Leopard Server 10.5 with 10.5.5 clients and Casper
6.01

Thanks

Richard Hunter
System Engineer

Square Group Ltd




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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Tue Nov 18 05:22:56 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:22:56 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
In-Reply-To: <49220B81020000810003743F@gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C5482BE0.16EAF%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

It looks like this will be the best option as I've only got 2 departments set up right now anyway.  Is JSS ID to Department a 1 to 1 relationship?

j


On 11/17/08 19:25 , "Criss  Myers" <cmyers at uclan.ac.uk> wrote:

hi,

yes thats what i do for pilot and testing macs, i create a department
and put them in it

Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054
>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 17/11/08 9:30 PM >>>
I don't believe that group membership can be a criterion for a smart
group.
 Perhaps that can be a feature request.
Does your static group have any other common elements?

If they're on the same isolated subnet, you can create a Network Segment
for
them and use that as the common criterion.

You could create a "beta testing" Department and add all of these
machines
to it and then scope down your smart group from there, i.e., by having
criteria of "beta testing" department and >0 SW updates available.


2008/11/17 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm
looking
> for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10
machines or
> so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments
and
> management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this
static
> group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.
>
> Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other
way? I
> thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but
that
> wouldn't work in my case.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
>



--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Nov 18 05:47:17 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:47:17 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Permission problems when using FUT
In-Reply-To: <C54860E6.602A%richard.hunter@squaregroup.co.uk>
References: <C54860E6.602A%richard.hunter@squaregroup.co.uk>
Message-ID: <EEA4CA65D05DC54E874A89D9F518681951265AC853@CHERRYCOKE.uwec.edu>

Hi Richard,

When you say casper does nothing for your login policy, does that mean you see nothing in the jamf.log on that local machine when the jamf binary checks for login policies as well? If nothing is getting to the client and it is checking for login policies correctly the issue is most likely in how you have the policy configured. Make sure your scope of machines is set correctly.

If you are getting errors in the jamf.log about something then we can tackle that. Post that log info back...

Not much help I know, but that's where I'd start.

Craig Ernst
Systems Management and Configuration
+-------------------+
University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Learning and Technology Services
105 Garfield Ave
Eau Claire, WI 54701
Phone: (715) 836-3639
Fax: (715) 836-6001
+-------------------+
ernstcs at uwec.edu
________________________________
From: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hunter [richard.hunter at squaregroup.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:09 AM
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: [Casper] Permission problems when using FUT

Hey Guys

When I deploy settings for the user specifically (system preference settings eg screensaver etc) and the machine is at the login screen. The preference files will be added to the users preference folder but all the permissions are wrong, the settings will not apply and because I am using mobile accounts I then have issues when the new pref files will not sync. If however, I log into the user account and then deploy the prefs they work correctly. How do I get this working without logging into the users account.

I am also having an issue where my login policies from casper do not deploy at all. They are set to once per user at login and nothing happens.

Any ideas?


Using mobile accounts on Leopard Server 10.5 with 10.5.5 clients and Casper 6.01

Thanks

Richard Hunter
System Engineer

Square Group Ltd



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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Nov 18 06:53:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:53:57 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Smart static groups
In-Reply-To: <C5482BE0.16EAF%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
References: <49220B81020000810003743F@gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk>
	<C5482BE0.16EAF%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <492282A4.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Jared 

There are tons of ways to do this.  Here are some ways how you can
separate machines on your network.   

1)  JSS ID - once your system has been inventoried it will give you a
JSS ID which is unique to that computer.  You can create a smart group
based on the JSS ID 

2)  Network segments - If you have them on their own VLAN or behind a
router with NAT, and know the IP ranges that those machines get, you can
create a network segment of those machines only 

3)  Naming convention - If they are named unique compared to your
production machines, you can create a group based on name 

4)  To further point three, you can also do it by OS, software
configuration, etc 


I had a couple of Mac minis behind a router which all were given a
certain IP range that is unique to that network, then created a smart
group and department based on that network group.  Then have a second
JSS and a second set of clients behind NAT for my sandbox.  


___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> 11/18/08 7:22 AM >>>

Hi-

It looks like this will be the best option as I?ve only got 2
departments set up right now anyway.  Is JSS ID to Department a 1 to 1
relationship?

j


On 11/17/08 19:25 , "Criss  Myers" <cmyers at uclan.ac.uk> wrote:


hi,

yes thats what i do for pilot and testing macs, i create a department
and put them in it

Criss Myers
Senior Customer Support Analyst (Mac Services)
Apple Certified Technical Coordinator v10.5
LIS Business Support Team
Library 301
University of Central Lancashire
Preston PR1 2HE
Ex 5054
01772 895054
>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 17/11/08 9:30 PM >>>
I don't believe that group membership can be a criterion for a smart
group.
 Perhaps that can be a feature request.
Does your static group have any other common elements?

If they're on the same isolated subnet, you can create a Network Segment
for
them and use that as the common criterion.

You could create a "beta testing" Department and add all of these
machines
to it and then scope down your smart group from there, i.e., by having
criteria of "beta testing" department and >0 SW updates available.


2008/11/17 Nichols, Jared <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu>

>  Is there a way to have a "static smart group?"  Basically, I'm
looking
> for a blend of a static and smart group.  I have a group of 10
machines or
> so that I'm calling my "beta testing" group so I can try deployments
and
> management out on them.  I'd like to apply a smart group to this
static
> group of "has more than 0 software updates available" for instance.
>
> Is there any way to do that?  Perhaps I need to scope in some other
way? I
> thought about doing it this way, by network segment for instance, but
that
> wouldn't work in my case.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Jared Nichols
> ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
> 244 Wood St.
> Lexington, MA 02420-9108
> (781) 981-5500
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
>




--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500

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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Wed Nov 19 08:29:25 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:29:25 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Package Receipts
Message-ID: <C549A915.16F85%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

What exactly does Casper look for in regard to receipts?  Should it list everything that's in /Library/Receipts?  I have one machine in particular, I wanted to check if a piece of software was installed (our own internal package that just modifies security settings) and didn't see it listed in the receipts listing on this particular computer - my testing machine actually.  I went into /Library/Receipts, and there's actually a lot of things listed in there that aren't listed in the receipts in the JSS entry.  Granted, a lot of them were installed by a meta package (office for instance) and the meta package shows up, but not the child packages - which is fine.  The package I'm looking for is also a child of a meta package, but I'm seeing neither the child or parent in the report.

j
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Nov 19 09:13:29 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:13:29 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C53F6563.827B%swood@integerdallas.com>
Message-ID: <C549A559.77BE%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

With the help of the folks at JAMF (thank you, Sam) I've created a simple
workaround to my problem.

The computer name is set by Casper at the end of imaging but before
rebooting to the imaged drive. At that point it is setting the Computer Name
and Hostname in:

    /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist

This preferences.plist file does not exist in an InstaDMG image. It is
created by the Apple Setup Assistant, which has never run. Without the
presence of this file Casper cannot set the names.

Our workaround is to package the preferences.plist file from an existing
machine and include it during the imaging process.

Copying the plist file from my MacBook Pro to a PowerMac MDD G4 leads me to
believe this should work for most machines but I haven't tested any further.

The preferences.plist file also includes your Network Locations settings,
which location is active and your active network interfaces. Be sure to set
these prior to packaging.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

On 11/11/08 4:37 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:

> I am having the exact same problem and the good folks at JAMF are working on
> it.  So far we haven't been able to figure out why it is happening.
> 
> I have tried pushing just the image, without any extra apps or scripts, and
> I've tried it with the scripts and apps.  Both ways yield the same result.
> 
> To get around this, I've added to my post image script a piece that pulls
> the serial number of the machine and renames the machine to the serial
> number.  Not optimal, but it at least makes it easy to ID in ARD after
> imaging is done, and then I can go in and manually change it:
> 
> # rename computer to the serial number
> 
> NewName=`system_profiler | grep "Serial Number" | awk '{print $3}'`
> touch /$NewName
> #NewName='system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep Serial | awk '{print
> $3}''
> scutil --set ComputerName $NewName
> scutil --set LocalHostName $NewName
> scutil --set HostName $NewName
> 
> On 11/11/08 4:33 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks!
>> 
>> I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5 image.
>> Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that image is
>> in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper 6.01
>> system.
>> 
>> This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
>> combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent the
>> setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.
>> 
>> When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding that
>> the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference pane.
>> It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
>> Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer and
>> Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.


From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Wed Nov 19 09:40:59 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <C549A559.77BE%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
References: <C53F6563.827B%swood@integerdallas.com>
	<C549A559.77BE%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811190940i33b25b94k567344a29f4b7ea5@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the info.
This does open up some more questions in search of a better solution...

The thought of manually building system configuration preferences takes the
wind out of my automation sails, metaphorically speaking.  I don't like the
idea of bringing over another machine's plist either.  It has potential for
cruft, which we're trying to eliminate with InstaDMG, and it makes the
assumption that we have a working machine to pull a plist from.  We probably
do, but what if you're setting up a brand new site?  I'd rather be able to
do this via scripting.

How does Apple Setup Assistant generate
the /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist file?  If it
uses defaults, then we can deploy a plist that only contains the computer
name and hostname keys, and let ASA handle the rest.

If the jamf binary can query the JSS, perhaps a script that gets the
computer name and host name from the JSS, and then performs "defaults write
/Volumes/yourtargetvolume/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
<appropriate keys & values>" would be possible.

What if, as part of the InstaDMG process, you include a script that executes
"touch
/Volumes/yourtargetvolume/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist"?
 Will the existence of an empty file allow Casper to set the preferences?

Thanks,
Miles Leacy


On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Smith, William <
william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

> With the help of the folks at JAMF (thank you, Sam) I've created a simple
> workaround to my problem.
>
> The computer name is set by Casper at the end of imaging but before
> rebooting to the imaged drive. At that point it is setting the Computer
> Name
> and Hostname in:
>
>    /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
>
> This preferences.plist file does not exist in an InstaDMG image. It is
> created by the Apple Setup Assistant, which has never run. Without the
> presence of this file Casper cannot set the names.
>
> Our workaround is to package the preferences.plist file from an existing
> machine and include it during the imaging process.
>
> Copying the plist file from my MacBook Pro to a PowerMac MDD G4 leads me to
> believe this should work for most machines but I haven't tested any
> further.
>
> The preferences.plist file also includes your Network Locations settings,
> which location is active and your active network interfaces. Be sure to set
> these prior to packaging.
>
> --
>
> bill
>
> William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
> MCS IT
> Merrill Communications, LLC
> (651) 632-1492
>
> On 11/11/08 4:37 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:
>
> > I am having the exact same problem and the good folks at JAMF are working
> on
> > it.  So far we haven't been able to figure out why it is happening.
> >
> > I have tried pushing just the image, without any extra apps or scripts,
> and
> > I've tried it with the scripts and apps.  Both ways yield the same
> result.
> >
> > To get around this, I've added to my post image script a piece that pulls
> > the serial number of the machine and renames the machine to the serial
> > number.  Not optimal, but it at least makes it easy to ID in ARD after
> > imaging is done, and then I can go in and manually change it:
> >
> > # rename computer to the serial number
> >
> > NewName=`system_profiler | grep "Serial Number" | awk '{print $3}'`
> > touch /$NewName
> > #NewName='system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep Serial | awk '{print
> > $3}''
> > scutil --set ComputerName $NewName
> > scutil --set LocalHostName $NewName
> > scutil --set HostName $NewName
> >
> > On 11/11/08 4:33 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks!
> >>
> >> I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5
> image.
> >> Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that
> image is
> >> in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper
> 6.01
> >> system.
> >>
> >> This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
> >> combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent
> the
> >> setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.
> >>
> >> When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding
> that
> >> the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference
> pane.
> >> It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
> >> Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer
> and
> >> Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Casper mailing list
> Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
> http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper
>
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Nov 19 11:20:22 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:20:22 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Name is not populating when imaging
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811190940i33b25b94k567344a29f4b7ea5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C549C316.77C7%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

Hi Miles!

Great questions!

This method is definitely a workaround and not a solution. I left out some
details to shorten my post but I'll include them here.

Just the presence of the file isn't enough so a touch command to create the
preferences.plist file doesn't work. I do believe that a "defaults write"
command with the proper properties would suffice.

In my testing, the extra properties controlling the network interfaces,
location, etc., must be present for binding to work. I originally removed
all the properties in the preferences.plist file except for the one for the
Computer Name and Hostname. While the other properties were re-written by
the Mac OS they apparently weren't done either quickly enough or in the
correct order of events to allow my script to bind to Open Directory.

Querying the JSS for the Computer Name does not meet my needs in my
environment. We don't pre-populate or pre-stage machines. I need to be able
to specify the name in the Casper or Casper Imaging application.

Keep in mind that the same file with the cruft from the original computer is
still there with an OS image created by Composer. In my opinion, I haven't
created any more than would already be there.

My hope is that the JAMF folks make some changes to accommodate for InstaDMG
OS files. (I'm assuming defaults write to create the file with minimum
properties is the way to go.) They have an interest and desire to make
things work for their customers, which I appreciate greatly.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492

On 11/19/08 11:40 AM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the info.
> 
> This does open up some more questions in search of a better solution...
> 
> The thought of manually building system configuration preferences takes the
> wind out of my automation sails, metaphorically speaking.  I don't like the
> idea of bringing over another machine's plist either.  It has potential for
> cruft, which we're trying to eliminate with InstaDMG, and it makes the
> assumption that we have a working machine to pull a plist from.  We probably
> do, but what if you're setting up a brand new site?  I'd rather be able to do
> this via scripting.
> 
> How does Apple Setup Assistant generate the
> /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist file?  If it uses
> defaults, then we can deploy a plist that only contains the computer name and
> hostname keys, and let ASA handle the rest.
> 
> If the jamf binary can query the JSS, perhaps a script that gets the computer
> name and host name from the JSS, and then performs "defaults write
> /Volumes/yourtargetvolume/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.
> plist <appropriate keys & values>" would be possible.
> 
> What if, as part of the InstaDMG process, you include a script that executes
> "touch 
> /Volumes/yourtargetvolume/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.
> plist"?  Will the existence of an empty file allow Casper to set the
> preferences?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Smith, William
> <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:
>> With the help of the folks at JAMF (thank you, Sam) I've created a simple
>> workaround to my problem.
>> 
>> The computer name is set by Casper at the end of imaging but before
>> rebooting to the imaged drive. At that point it is setting the Computer Name
>> and Hostname in:
>> 
>>     /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
>> 
>> This preferences.plist file does not exist in an InstaDMG image. It is
>> created by the Apple Setup Assistant, which has never run. Without the
>> presence of this file Casper cannot set the names.
>> 
>> Our workaround is to package the preferences.plist file from an existing
>> machine and include it during the imaging process.
>> 
>> Copying the plist file from my MacBook Pro to a PowerMac MDD G4 leads me to
>> believe this should work for most machines but I haven't tested any further.
>> 
>> The preferences.plist file also includes your Network Locations settings,
>> which location is active and your active network interfaces. Be sure to set
>> these prior to packaging.
>> 
>> On 11/11/08 4:37 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integerdallas.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am having the exact same problem and the good folks at JAMF are working on
>>> it.  So far we haven't been able to figure out why it is happening.
>>> 
>>> I have tried pushing just the image, without any extra apps or scripts, and
>>> I've tried it with the scripts and apps.  Both ways yield the same result.
>>> 
>>> To get around this, I've added to my post image script a piece that pulls
>>> the serial number of the machine and renames the machine to the serial
>>> number.  Not optimal, but it at least makes it easy to ID in ARD after
>>> imaging is done, and then I can go in and manually change it:
>>> 
>>> # rename computer to the serial number
>>> 
>>> NewName=`system_profiler | grep "Serial Number" | awk '{print $3}'`
>>> touch /$NewName
>>> #NewName='system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep Serial | awk '{print
>>> $3}''
>>> scutil --set ComputerName $NewName
>>> scutil --set LocalHostName $NewName
>>> scutil --set HostName $NewName
>>> 
>>> On 11/11/08 4:33 PM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Folks!
>>>> 
>>>> I am testing InstaDMG as a means of creating our base Mac OS X 10.5 image.
>>>> Currently, I have it creating a fully patched 10.5.5 image and that image
>>>> is
>>>> in both our production Casper 5.13 system as well as our testing Casper
>>>> 6.01
>>>> system.
>>>> 
>>>> This 10.5.5 image is virgin until I install it with Casper. I am using a
>>>> combination of scripts and packages to add a local admin user, prevent the
>>>> setup assistant from appearing, set network preferences, time zone, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> When I image with either Casper 5.13 or Casper Imaging 6.01 I'm finding
>>>> that
>>>> the Computer Name is not getting populated in the Sharing preference pane.
>>>> It is completely blank. If I click the Edit... button to view the Local
>>>> Hostname it shows "Macintosh.local" instead of "MachineName.local".
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone seen this behavior before? I've searched both the Composer and
>>>> Casper mailing list archives but neither returned results for InstaDMG.


From eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com  Thu Nov 20 11:23:41 2008
From: eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com (Eric Winkelhake)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:23:41 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Casper Admin Configs
Message-ID: <OF552ACC63.61A46228-ON86257507.006A0D40-86257507.006A8848@lionresources.com>

Is there a way to make a configuration "inactive"??  I want to keep a 
configuration but not allow any one to use, in fact I dont even want it 
showing up in the Casper Imaging app.  Any bright ideas??


***Please note my phone numbers and email address have changed***
Eric Winkelhake
MundocomWW
312.220.1669
312.504.5155
eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Thu Nov 20 11:25:05 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:25:05 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Casper Admin Configs
In-Reply-To: <OF552ACC63.61A46228-ON86257507.006A0D40-86257507.006A8848@lionresources.com>
Message-ID: <C54B15B2.113B9%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

You have no options that I'm aware of, but I think it's a great feature request! To have a status on a config.

Craig E

On 11/20/08 1:23 PM, "Eric Winkelhake" <eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com> wrote:


Is there a way to make a configuration "inactive"??  I want to keep a configuration but not allow any one to use, in fact I dont even want it showing up in the Casper Imaging app.  Any bright ideas??


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MundocomWW
312.220.1669
312.504.5155
eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Thu Nov 20 11:43:08 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:43:08 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Printer installs
Message-ID: <C54B27FC.16FC5%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

I made printer installations self-serviceable and it looks all well and good, but it's taking FOREVER to install a printer...I've tried it on 3 machines and I finally give up after 10 minutes.  I figure I must be doing something wrong...
--
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ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Thu Nov 20 12:38:49 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:38:49 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,
Since Leopard uses flat files for accounts, I was wondering if anyone has
had any luck in creating accounts on Leopard boxes via a package or script.

I'd be eager to see what anyone might be doing with this.

-Miles
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From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Thu Nov 20 13:04:51 2008
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:04:51 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C54B2D13.79A4%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

On 11/20/08 2:38 PM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> Since Leopard uses flat files for accounts, I was wondering if anyone has had
> any luck in creating accounts on Leopard boxes via a package or script.
> 
> I'd be eager to see what anyone might be doing with this.

Someone has contributed CreateUser to the AFP548.com site
<http://www.afp548.com/filemgmt/index.php?id=76>

I'm only using it to create a single admin account with my InstaDMG packages
but it does exactly what I need.

You can customized standard vs. admin user, home folder path, name, etc.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Thu Nov 20 13:07:15 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:07:15 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C54B2DA3.113D7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Am I missing something here?

/usr/sbin/jamf createAccount

And if you aren't sure what you can do.../usr/sbin/jamf help createAccount

Throw it in a SH script and WHAM...account. I use that often.

Craig E


On 11/20/08 2:38 PM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:

Hey all,

Since Leopard uses flat files for accounts, I was wondering if anyone has had any luck in creating accounts on Leopard boxes via a package or script.

I'd be eager to see what anyone might be doing with this.

-Miles


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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu Nov 20 13:09:57 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:09:57 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
In-Reply-To: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49257DC5.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

I assume you mean local accounts? 

Here is a shameless plug 

http://tlarkin.com/tech/create-hidden-user-105 

http://tlarkin.com/tech/create-local-user-accounts 

Those will create local accounts, are you talking about local accounts I take it? 

Let me know 

tom


___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
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>>> "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> 11/20/08 2:38 PM >>>
Hey all, 


Since Leopard uses flat files for accounts, I was wondering if anyone has had any luck in creating accounts on Leopard boxes via a package or script. 



I'd be eager to see what anyone might be doing with this. 



-Miles 



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From tlarki at kckps.org  Thu Nov 20 13:10:54 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:10:54 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
In-Reply-To: <C54B2DA3.113D7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C54B2DA3.113D7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <49257DFE.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Of course there is the easy way Jamf does it as well, which you can also
script, but I am not sure how customizable it is compared to the dscl. 
I have never sat there and done a full comparison

>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 11/20/08 3:07 PM >>>

Am I missing something here?

/usr/sbin/jamf createAccount

And if you aren?t sure what you can do.../usr/sbin/jamf help
createAccount

Throw it in a SH script and WHAM...account. I use that often.

Craig E


On 11/20/08 2:38 PM, "Miles Leacy" <miles.leacy at themacadmin.com> wrote:


Hey all,

Since Leopard uses flat files for accounts, I was wondering if anyone
has had any luck in creating accounts on Leopard boxes via a package or
script.

I'd be eager to see what anyone might be doing with this.

-Miles



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From miles.leacy at themacadmin.com  Thu Nov 20 13:14:35 2008
From: miles.leacy at themacadmin.com (Miles Leacy)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:14:35 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Packaging an account
In-Reply-To: <C54B2DA3.113D7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <ec2e75ff0811201238k52962e37ydfebf43321a8802c@mail.gmail.com>
	<C54B2DA3.113D7%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <ec2e75ff0811201314i30feea32la7ae8df3f1bda6b3@mail.gmail.com>

2008/11/20 Ernst, Craig S. <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>

>  Am I missing something here?
>

Yes.  My cold-medicine-addled brain.
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Fri Nov 21 05:53:23 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:53:23 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Printer installs
In-Reply-To: <C54B27FC.16FC5%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C54C2783.16FE3%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Some additional information...

It turns out that if I force quit Self Service, the PPD shows up in /private/etc/cups/ppd.  It wouldn't show up before doing the force quit. The printer never maps.  However, I am able to successfully deploy the printer via Casper Remote.  Are printers just not meant to deploy with Self Service?

Thanks
j


On 11/20/08 14:43 , "Jared Nichols" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

I made printer installations self-serviceable and it looks all well and good, but it's taking FOREVER to install a printer...I've tried it on 3 machines and I finally give up after 10 minutes.  I figure I must be doing something wrong...

--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com  Fri Nov 21 07:36:58 2008
From: eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com (Eric Winkelhake)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:36:58 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Printer installs
In-Reply-To: <C54C2783.16FE3%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <OF17941297.0E33C62E-ON86257508.00559122-86257508.0055C688@lionresources.com>

I have all my printers available in self service, about 12 or 13 of them. 
Never had any issues, except with appletalk printers being installed on 
tiger machines, that would get a little wacky sometimes.  Now I'm all IP 
printing and everything works great.

***Please note my phone numbers and email address have changed***
Eric Winkelhake
MundocomWW
312.220.1669
312.504.5155
eric.winkelhake at mundocomww.com



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Some additional information...

It turns out that if I force quit Self Service, the PPD shows up in 
/private/etc/cups/ppd.  It wouldn?t show up before doing the force quit. 
The printer never maps.  However, I am able to successfully deploy the 
printer via Casper Remote.  Are printers just not meant to deploy with 
Self Service?

Thanks
j


On 11/20/08 14:43 , "Jared Nichols" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

I made printer installations self-serviceable and it looks all well and 
good, but it?s taking FOREVER to install a printer...I?ve tried it on 3 
machines and I finally give up after 10 minutes.  I figure I must be doing 
something wrong...

-- 
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations ? Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500_______________________________________________
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Mon Nov 24 07:17:43 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script help
Message-ID: <C5502FC7.1705D%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j
--
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ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Mon Nov 24 07:17:43 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script help
Message-ID: <C5502FC7.1705D%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov 24 07:46:55 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:46:55 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Script help
In-Reply-To: <C5502FC7.1705D%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C550288F.1152D%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

This sounds similar to some of the maintenance reporting we do.

To have everything a bit more central I might suggest a script that touches a website with that data for that computer and places it in a database. Then you can create a webpage to view the results of those machines. It's like making your own centralized virus management console. I'm too lazy to do that so I'd rather purchase a product that comes with it. =)

Pass the machine name (or whatever other data you want it to have there), and the result of your command.

I assume this is something you'd do on a regular basis. The perl example below is, and you can get the computername from the JAMF Binary, too. But we clean out profiles nightly, and this script is called when that process is done.

#Post Remote Log
    `/usr/bin/plutil -convert xml1 /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist`;
    $xml =`/bin/cat /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist`;
    $xml =substr($xml, (index $xml, '<key>ComputerName</key>'), -1);
    $xml =substr($xml, (index $xml, '<string>' )+8,-1);
    $computerName =substr($xml, 0, index ($xml, '</string>'));
    `/usr/bin/curl "www.server.com/log.asp?compName=$computerName"`;
}

Hopefully I'm not off the mark on what you're looking for.

Craig E


On 11/24/08 9:17 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats.  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j
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From nick at jamfsoftware.com  Mon Nov 24 08:39:36 2008
From: nick at jamfsoftware.com (Nick Amundsen)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:39:36 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Script help
In-Reply-To: <C5502FC7.1705D%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C55034E8.8B64%nick@jamfsoftware.com>

Hi Jared,

It appears that VirusScan does not include the uvscan command anymore, but this information is now available in a plist located in /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan.plist.

The virus DAT version can be scanned by running:

/usr/bin/defaults read /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan Update_DATVersion

The script in the Resource Kit can be modified a bit to provide similar reporting as the Virex script by using this command in place of the uvscan command.  Once modified, this script can be run via policy or a Casper Remote action to report the definitions to the JSS.

Hope this helps.  Just a reminder to folks - if there are other questions related to items provided in the resource kit, or if you have ideas for future features of the Resource Kit, feel free to drop a line on the Resource Kit mailing list.  We have created that list in an effort to separate traffic and ensure that the lists are specialized by product.

Thanks!

Nick Amundsen
JAMF Software
Resource Kit Team


On 11/24/08 9:17 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats.  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Mon Nov 24 08:53:34 2008
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:53:34 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Script help
In-Reply-To: <C55034E8.8B64%nick@jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <C550382E.1154A%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

For sure...don't write an entire new system like I suggested...how absurd...

http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/resourcekit.php

Craig E


On 11/24/08 10:39 AM, "Nick Amundsen" <nick at jamfsoftware.com> wrote:

Hi Jared,

It appears that VirusScan does not include the uvscan command anymore, but this information is now available in a plist located in /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan.plist.

The virus DAT version can be scanned by running:

/usr/bin/defaults read /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan Update_DATVersion

The script in the Resource Kit can be modified a bit to provide similar reporting as the Virex script by using this command in place of the uvscan command.  Once modified, this script can be run via policy or a Casper Remote action to report the definitions to the JSS.

Hope this helps.  Just a reminder to folks - if there are other questions related to items provided in the resource kit, or if you have ideas for future features of the Resource Kit, feel free to drop a line on the Resource Kit mailing list.  We have created that list in an effort to separate traffic and ensure that the lists are specialized by product.

Thanks!

Nick Amundsen
JAMF Software
Resource Kit Team


On 11/24/08 9:17 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats.  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j

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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Tue Nov 25 06:05:59 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:05:59 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script help
In-Reply-To: <C550382E.1154A%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C5517079.17268%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi all-

I took the suggestion of scanning the plist and just backed out the scope a bit.  I'll let the script speak for itself.  Feel free to modify for your own use:
(attached as well)

#!/bin/sh

################################################################################################
##### Filename: vsinfo.sh                                                                                                                                                          #####
##### Author:  Jared F. Nichols                                                                                                                                                 #####
##### Purpose: Report VirusScan information to central server in the form of a text file.                                            #####
#####                                                                                                                                                                                                #####
##### This script requires the installation of the Jamf binary, though the 'mount' command                                          #####
##### could be used for share mounting and networksetup for hostname.                                                                       #####
################################################################################################

## Set a variable to call the file.  In this case, the name that Jamf has for the computer.
## Use sed to remove the XML tags.

filename=`jamf getComputerName | sed -e 's/<computer_name>//' -e 's/<\/\computer_name>//'`

## Use the Jamf binary to mount our file share.  In our case, a guest write-only share on our JSS
jamf mount -server LLOSX1 -share DATlogs -type afp

## Now that we have a name we're giving the file and a place to put it, read our info from the
## McAfee plist file directly to the file share, overwriting anything already there.

defaults read /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan > /Volumes/DATlogs/$filename

## Unmount our share forcibly.  Forcibly because the file we need has been written and we
## don't want to throw any errors to the user.
umount -f /Volumes/DATlogs

exit 0


On 11/24/08 11:53 , "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> wrote:

For sure...don't write an entire new system like I suggested...how absurd...

http://www.jamfsoftware.com/jamf_nation/resourcekit.php

Craig E


On 11/24/08 10:39 AM, "Nick Amundsen" <nick at jamfsoftware.com> wrote:

Hi Jared,

It appears that VirusScan does not include the uvscan command anymore, but this information is now available in a plist located in /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan.plist.

The virus DAT version can be scanned by running:

/usr/bin/defaults read /Library/Preferences/com.Mcafee.VirusScan Update_DATVersion

The script in the Resource Kit can be modified a bit to provide similar reporting as the Virex script by using this command in place of the uvscan command.  Once modified, this script can be run via policy or a Casper Remote action to report the definitions to the JSS.

Hope this helps.  Just a reminder to folks - if there are other questions related to items provided in the resource kit, or if you have ideas for future features of the Resource Kit, feel free to drop a line on the Resource Kit mailing list.  We have created that list in an effort to separate traffic and ensure that the lists are specialized by product.

Thanks!

Nick Amundsen
JAMF Software
Resource Kit Team


On 11/24/08 9:17 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats.  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j



--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu  Tue Nov 25 07:10:37 2008
From: jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu (Nichols, Jared)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:10:37 -0500
Subject: [Casper] CasperShare permissions
Message-ID: <C5517F9F.17285%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>

Hi-

What are the proper permissions for the CasperShare?  I'm getting the attached error and want to set them straight.
Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500
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From gcollier at questex.com  Tue Nov 25 11:34:21 2008
From: gcollier at questex.com (Gary Collier)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:34:21 -0800
Subject: [Casper] Offsite backup for Macs
Message-ID: <C551933D.4DEA%gcollier@questex.com>

Hi All,

I was wondering if you all could suggest a good off-site backup solution for
Macs.

Are any of you using an off-site solution?

Have a great Thanksgiving!

Thanks,

Gary

-- 
Gary Collier
IT Analyst
Questex Media Group
Santa Ana, CA
714-338-6762
 www.questex.com
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From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Tue Nov 25 12:27:37 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:27:37 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Offsite backup for Macs
In-Reply-To: <C551933D.4DEA%gcollier@questex.com>
Message-ID: <OF754BCC48.74B06488-ON8625750C.00704B15-8625750C.0070F7FD@spps.org>

Gary,
I like CrashPlan.   I use the home version on several computers and they 
have a nice CrashPlan Pro version for businesses.  It is cross-platfrom, 
all encrypted and the user has some control if they want.
http://www.crashplan.com
-Nathaniel




Gary Collier <gcollier at questex.com> 
Sent by: casper-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
11/25/08 01:28 PM

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cc

Subject
[Casper] Offsite backup for Macs






Hi All,

I was wondering if you all could suggest a good off-site backup solution 
for Macs.

Are any of you using an off-site solution?

Have a great Thanksgiving!

Thanks,

Gary

-- 
Gary Collier
IT Analyst
Questex Media Group
Santa Ana, CA
714-338-6762
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From jeremymatthews at mac.com  Tue Nov 25 17:13:31 2008
From: jeremymatthews at mac.com (Jeremy Matthews)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:13:31 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Offsite backup for Macs
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1227643209.28180.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
References: <mailman.3.1227643209.28180.casper@list.jamfsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <19AF48F0-7783-420E-BD21-87C9378A3818@mac.com>

We use mozy for small things...since electronic vaulting takes quite a  
while.
For tapes we use iron mountain.


On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:00 PM, casper-request at list.jamfsoftware.com wrote:

> Offsite backup for Macs


From ron.prue at mynoahs.com  Wed Nov 26 10:40:30 2008
From: ron.prue at mynoahs.com (Ron Prue)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:40:30 -0700
Subject: [Casper] Computer Report
Message-ID: <EFFD8A9B-C81F-4102-BC8E-C4B4E68EF0E3@mynoahs.com>

Hi all,

I am trying to  audit of all of my machines to gather MAC addresses  
for both ethernet and airport.  So far I can only seem to pull  
ethernet addresses in my reports.  I figure I must be missing something.

Any ideas?

Ron Prue
Technical Services
Noah Corporation
ron.prue at mynoahs.com

From NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org  Wed Nov 26 11:17:32 2008
From: NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org (NATHANIEL.LINDLEY at spps.org)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:17:32 -0600
Subject: [Casper] Computer Report
Message-ID: <OFB3861F6C.205E6837-ON8625750D.0069FA0F@spps.org>

Look in the Resource Kit, I think there is a custom report for MAC addresses. 
-Nathaniel


----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Prue [ron.prue at mynoahs.com]
Sent: 11/26/2008 12:40 PM
To: casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
Subject: [Casper] Computer Report



Hi all,

I am trying to  audit of all of my machines to gather MAC addresses  
for both ethernet and airport.  So far I can only seem to pull  
ethernet addresses in my reports.  I figure I must be missing something.

Any ideas?

Ron Prue
Technical Services
Noah Corporation
ron.prue at mynoahs.com
_______________________________________________
Casper mailing list
Casper at list.jamfsoftware.com
http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper

From bstewart at brocku.ca  Sun Nov 30 17:16:04 2008
From: bstewart at brocku.ca (Bruce Stewart)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:16:04 -0500
Subject: [Casper] Script help
In-Reply-To: <C5502FC7.1705D%jared.nichols@ll.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <C558A504.162AD%bstewart@brocku.ca>

Hi,
An alternative would be to use the reporting and policy enforcement tools from NAI called ePolicy. This is a separate install that allows an ePolicy server to get info on VirusScan versions, engines, DATs, scan settings and control it all for PC and Mac from one server. We use it university wide for all faculty, staff and students in our residences. Works great but it is not free like a shell script ran by Casper.

Bruce
________________________________
Bruce Stewart
Information Technology Services
Brock University
bruce at brocku.ca


On 24/11/08 10:17 AM, "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> wrote:

Hi-

What's the best way to have a machine report its DAT anti-virus level?  We use McAfee VirusScan 8.6.1, which stores its dats in /usr/local/vscanx/dats.  All I really need is an "ls" on that folder as the folders contained within "dats" are the dat levels, e.g. "5443" for the most recent.  The resource kit has a nice script, but it's for Virex.  VirusScan doesn't have the uvscan command that the script references (or at least not that I'm aware of)

Anyway...

At my old job I used Apple Remote Desktop and could just display the results of an LS command on my admin workstation.  How do I get something similar with Casper?

I was thinking that I'd have a script do an LS on /usr/local/vscanx/dats and pipe that to a file that used a query to networksetup to name it the name of the computer.  Then, I'd copy it to my CasperShare.  Wrong way about it?

Thanks!!!

j


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From tlarki at kckps.org  Sun Nov 30 22:45:13 2008
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:45:13 -0600
Subject: [Casper] CasperShare permissions
Message-ID: <49333399020000390000652D@gwoes4.kckps.org>

There is more than one way to do this but this is what I do on every casper server I have.

On a separate volume from the OS I create a share called CasperShare and share it on the network.  I keep the local admin account of the sever as the owner and then create two other local user accounts on that machine.  They are casper admin and casper install.  Casper admin has full rwx permissions and casper install has -r- via an ACL while the local admin account owns that folder and all sub folders.

That way it is kept out of my LDAP, and never authenticating against any one of my Directory servers, and if my LDAP for whatever reason goes down casper is still up and running by itself to take over.

So, lets say dooms day hits my network and like my Directory servers go down.  We use PHDs so users can still log in, and they can still be managed by the casper client even if my directory servers have to go down for a few days.  Worst case scenario, I know...

Then in the web interface for the JSS just set up each server by IP or FQDN and then set the read only user name and password and then the read/write user name and password and it will use those to authenticate.

This simple set up allows me to build a casper server from scratch in like under an hour.  Over the summer we installed 7 new xserves for our casper deployment and we got them all up and running and our old JSS migrated to our new one in two days total time.  That included the time it took to drive out to each location and install the server as well.

I am a big fan of keeping it simple.

___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351



>>> "Nichols, Jared" <jared.nichols at ll.mit.edu> 11/25/08 9:16 AM >>>
Hi-

What are the proper permissions for the CasperShare?  I'm getting the attached error and want to set them straight.
Thanks!
--
Jared Nichols
ISD Infrastructure and Operations - Desktop Engineering
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.
Lexington, MA 02420-9108
(781) 981-5500