[Composer] Composer Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4

Sat Oct 6 17:07:44 PDT 2007

Something seems odd with not being able to capture Premium in the  
same manner as standard..  At least we could never mix installs of  
CS3's licensed software.. See, our install of Design Standard alone  
only weighs in at 1.26Gb packaged.  Of course the problem with using  
composer with the snapshot new and modified files.. (even though it  
is the strength of the product) it makes it difficult to separate  
installs.  i.e. I create design standard on a clean install of Mac OS  
X (never having had CS3 on it before) and the license files are ok.   
Add onto the license with, say, web standard and the license  
subsystem breaks- unless I make the first image of design standard  
then immediately append the second I can never add a package created  
by composer again to anything CS3.  I CAN manually install from Adobe  
DVDs though.

If I try it all in reverse the same happens.  I would need to create  
an install/package of EVERYTHING then when it comes time to confirm  
the contents of the package I leave the entire suite's installed  
licenses and remove what I don't want everyone to have.  I can then  
simply package the application folders themselves of the other items  
without any licenses at all and drop them where I want them.  Problem  
is that Adobe CS3's license subsystem together with whatever you find  
added into Application Support is beefy by itself- the hidden files  
themselves are also easily upset by tinkering or mishandling - which  
in turn leads to breakage of the install..  so once its down it is  
recommended you leave them alone.

Indeed CS3 has posed a challenge and Adobe has been surprisingly  
stubborn in allow their bigger customers (like our operations) to get  
ANY OUNCE of relief from the impossible pseudo-manual install they  
call an easy deployment solution.

On Oct 6, 2007, at 3:00 PM, composer-request at list.jamfsoftware.com  
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John McGuire <jmcguire1955 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Composer] Composer Digest, Vol 6, Issue 3
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> Hi Jeff,
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> Thanks for the reply. Since writing I have created
> another package using CS 3 Design Standard. This too,
> was successful, unlike the Premium package. It has
> been deployed to a couple of machines. I suppose I
> will remake the Premium package once more to see if it
> helps, but as far as I can tell, there is nothing
> wrong with the current one if installed directly on a
> machine without ARD. The only difference I have seen,
> (other than the obvious software differences in the
> packages,) is that the Premium Package is 2.1 GB in
> size, whereas the Standard is 1.7 GB. All machines
> I've attempted this on had at least 17GB of space
> available.
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> Thanks again.
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>> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:12:47 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: John McGuire <jmcguire1955 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Composer] Deployment issue with ARD 2.2
>> and stand-alone
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>> I am new to Composer, but have successfully used it
>> to
>> create an Apple Installer package for Adobe CS2,
>> choosing to deploy InDesign CS2 only. I have also
>> successfully installed this package across the
>> network
>> to one machine as a test using Apple Remote Desktop
>> version 2.2.
>>
>> I followed the same steps to deploy a full install
>> of
>> Adobe CS 3 Design Premium. The installer package
>> creation went well, but sending it through ARD to
>> install remotely consistently fails without even
>> copying the package to the other machine. Obviously,
>> the CS 3 install is quite a bit larger. Simply using
>> ARD to copy the installer to the other machine also
>> fails.
>>
>> However, physically attaching an external hard disk
>> with the same package to the other machine allows me
>> to install the software directly, after installing
>> Developer Tools there. Is anyone aware of a size
>> limitation that would prevent ARD from copying the
>> package? Do I have to upgrade to ARD 3?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:48:54 -0400
>> From: "Bingenheimer, Jeff"
>> <Jeff.Bingenheimer at HARPERCOLLINS.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Composer] Deployment issue with ARD
>> 2.2 and stand-alone
>> 	Composer
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>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have used Composer to create the CS 3 install .PKG
>> and push it via ARD
>> 3.1. What I did notice on a few machines was that if
>> the destination
>> drive didn't have at least 9 or 10 GB of free space
>> the install would
>> fail every time. I am not sure what was going on
>> under the covers but
>> there might be a need for some sort of swap space or
>> expansion of the
>> package before the installation occurs requiring the
>> extra space.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Jeffrey A. Bingenheimer
>>
>> Manager, Desktop Operations
>> HarperCollins Publishers
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>> 212-207-7070
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: composer-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> [mailto:composer-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On
>> Behalf Of John
>> McGuire
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 5:13 PM
>> To: composer at list.jamfsoftware.com
>> Subject: [Composer] Deployment issue with ARD 2.2
>> and stand-alone
>> Composer
>>
>> I am new to Composer, but have successfully used it
>> to
>> create an Apple Installer package for Adobe CS2,
>> choosing to deploy InDesign CS2 only. I have also
>> successfully installed this package across the
>> network
>> to one machine as a test using Apple Remote Desktop
>> version 2.2.
>>
>> I followed the same steps to deploy a full install
>> of
>> Adobe CS 3 Design Premium. The installer package
>> creation went well, but sending it through ARD to
>> install remotely consistently fails without even
>> copying the package to the other machine. Obviously,
>> the CS 3 install is quite a bit larger. Simply using
>> ARD to copy the installer to the other machine also
>> fails.
>>
>> However, physically attaching an external hard disk
>> with the same package to the other machine allows me
>> to install the software directly, after installing
>> Developer Tools there. Is anyone aware of a size
>> limitation that would prevent ARD from copying the
>> package? Do I have to upgrade to ARD 3?
>>
>> Thank you
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