From Sykane at gmx.de  Tue Sep 15 14:49:05 2009
From: Sykane at gmx.de (Jan Dada)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:49:05 +0200
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
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Message-ID: <C5614CEA-9A6C-49AF-8D24-CBB61B550830@gmx.de>


> Hi everybody,
>
> i got an problem with Composer.
> When i create an package of any kind of software very often are  
> files included within the users folder, so when i want to distribute  
> this package i want these files of course to go in the user folder  
> of the machine im distributing to.
>
> Is that even possible?
>
> greetings


From rhlist1 at hammen.org  Tue Sep 15 15:54:44 2009
From: rhlist1 at hammen.org (Robert Hammen)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:54:44 -0500
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
In-Reply-To: <C5614CEA-9A6C-49AF-8D24-CBB61B550830@gmx.de>
References: <64EAEAEB-48C3-42A5-9E96-CF8A7F2E8FFA@dada.de>
	<C5614CEA-9A6C-49AF-8D24-CBB61B550830@gmx.de>
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On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Jan Dada wrote:

>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> i got an problem with Composer.
>> When i create an package of any kind of software very often are  
>> files included within the users folder, so when i want to  
>> distribute this package i want these files of course to go in the  
>> user folder of the machine im distributing to.
>>
>> Is that even possible?

Yes, if you are using Casper for deployment, you can use the  
"FEU" (Fill Existing Users) option... if you're not using Casper, I  
don't think there's an easy way to handle this, no...

--Robert

From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Sep 16 06:57:56 2009
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:57:56 -0500
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
In-Reply-To: <C588C222-A68B-4705-9B39-DBB4D2F6ADA3@hammen.org>
Message-ID: <C6D65914.F35C%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

> From: Robert Hammen <rhlist1 at hammen.org>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:54:44 -0500
> 
> On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Jan Dada wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Hi everybody,
>>> 
>>> i got an problem with Composer.
>>> When i create an package of any kind of software very often are
>>> files included within the users folder, so when i want to
>>> distribute this package i want these files of course to go in the
>>> user folder of the machine im distributing to.
>>> 
>>> Is that even possible?
> 
> Yes, if you are using Casper for deployment, you can use the
> "FEU" (Fill Existing Users) option... if you're not using Casper, I
> don't think there's an easy way to handle this, no...

A caveat: this only works for local machine accounts but not directory
accounts. The User Template folder will be populated just fine.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed Sep 16 07:27:17 2009
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
In-Reply-To: <C6D65914.F35C%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C6D65FF5.A7AD%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I felt compelled to clarify what Bill is saying in regards to the caveat.

It won't work for Network Based Home Directories.

It can work for directory accounts, like AD and OD if they are not using
network homes and use local home directories.

Craig E


On 9/16/09 8:57 AM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

>> From: Robert Hammen <rhlist1 at hammen.org>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:54:44 -0500
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Jan Dada wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>> 
>>>> i got an problem with Composer.
>>>> When i create an package of any kind of software very often are
>>>> files included within the users folder, so when i want to
>>>> distribute this package i want these files of course to go in the
>>>> user folder of the machine im distributing to.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that even possible?
>> 
>> Yes, if you are using Casper for deployment, you can use the
>> "FEU" (Fill Existing Users) option... if you're not using Casper, I
>> don't think there's an easy way to handle this, no...
> 
> A caveat: this only works for local machine accounts but not directory
> accounts. The User Template folder will be populated just fine.


From william.smith at merrillcorp.com  Wed Sep 16 08:09:33 2009
From: william.smith at merrillcorp.com (Smith, William)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:09:33 -0500
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
In-Reply-To: <C6D65FF5.A7AD%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <C6D669DD.F36E%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>

> From: "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:27:17 -0500
> 
> I felt compelled to clarify what Bill is saying in regards to the caveat.
> 
> It won't work for Network Based Home Directories.
> 
> It can work for directory accounts, like AD and OD if they are not using
> network homes and use local home directories.

Unless something has changed in 7.01 or 7.1, not all local home directories
for accounts that are directory-based will be populated. This was a feature
that was changed from version 5.0 to 6.0 when JAMF began using the dscl
command for this process.

For example, assume I have a login policy that installs files using "fill
existing users" (FEU) and have that policy set to run Once. The Mac where
I've applied the policy has local home folders for 12 Active Directory
users.

When that policy runs, only the user who is logging in and the User Template
will receive the files. The other 11 users will not receive the files in
their local home folders.

For now, I'm having to word around this issue with some scripting but I've
asked JAMF a few times to re-instate the behavior from Casper 5.0. I have
some groups where this feature was really handy.

-- 

bill

William M. Smith, Technical Analyst
MCS IT
Merrill Communications, LLC
(651) 632-1492


From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Wed Sep 16 08:12:18 2009
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:12:18 -0500
Subject: [Composer] User Folder
In-Reply-To: <C6D669DD.F36E%william.smith@merrillcorp.com>
Message-ID: <C6D66A82.A7C4%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

I guess at that point while pluralize it "users". Have I been under the
wrong impression this long now?

Craig E

On 9/16/09 10:09 AM, "Smith, William" <william.smith at merrillcorp.com> wrote:

>> From: "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:27:17 -0500
>> 
>> I felt compelled to clarify what Bill is saying in regards to the caveat.
>> 
>> It won't work for Network Based Home Directories.
>> 
>> It can work for directory accounts, like AD and OD if they are not using
>> network homes and use local home directories.
> 
> Unless something has changed in 7.01 or 7.1, not all local home directories
> for accounts that are directory-based will be populated. This was a feature
> that was changed from version 5.0 to 6.0 when JAMF began using the dscl
> command for this process.
> 
> For example, assume I have a login policy that installs files using "fill
> existing users" (FEU) and have that policy set to run Once. The Mac where
> I've applied the policy has local home folders for 12 Active Directory
> users.
> 
> When that policy runs, only the user who is logging in and the User Template
> will receive the files. The other 11 users will not receive the files in
> their local home folders.
> 
> For now, I'm having to word around this issue with some scripting but I've
> asked JAMF a few times to re-instate the behavior from Casper 5.0. I have
> some groups where this feature was really handy.


From Paul.Parker at JCrew.com  Wed Sep 16 12:03:50 2009
From: Paul.Parker at JCrew.com (Paul Parker)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:03:50 -0400
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
Message-ID: <C6D6AED6.AD2D%Paul.Parker@JCrew.com>

Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type Client with
Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that creates a folder with
the User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to be RWX.  I have set these
permissions correctly in Composer and tried several different package
configurations but inevitably end up with a wonky package.  Typically, we
receive an error that says the Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The
Preference Pane is either unavailable and will not open or starting the core
fails.  The only workaround is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop
when the core fails.

Thanks in advance - 


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From Kurt.Tappe at chase.com  Thu Sep 17 09:30:26 2009
From: Kurt.Tappe at chase.com (Tappe, Kurt (Card Services))
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:30:26 -0400
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
In-Reply-To: <C6D6AED6.AD2D%Paul.Parker@JCrew.com>
Message-ID: <C6D7DC62.CE24%Kurt.Tappe@chase.com>

Could you write a script that gets executed as part of the Composer
installer that performs this directory creation?  Something like:

for i in `ls /Users`
   do
   mkdir /Library/Extensis/$i
   chmod 777 /Library/Extensis/$i
done

The beauty of this method is it will enable UTC for all users on a system,
not just the current one.

I?m not too familiar with how to add a script like this to a package using
Composer.  PackageMaker.app has preinstall and postinstall actions.....can
you edit a Composer package using PackageMaker?

-Kurt

On 9/16/09 3:03 PM, "Paul Parker" <Paul.Parker at JCrew.com> wrote:

> Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type Client with
> Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that creates a folder with the
> User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to be RWX.  I have set these permissions
> correctly in Composer and tried several different package configurations but
> inevitably end up with a wonky package.  Typically, we receive an error that
> says the Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The Preference Pane is either
> unavailable and will not open or starting the core fails.  The only workaround
> is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop when the core fails.
> 
> Thanks in advance -
> ______________________________________________________________________
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From Paul.Parker at JCrew.Com  Wed Sep 16 14:59:17 2009
From: Paul.Parker at JCrew.Com (Paul Parker)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:59:17 -0400
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
In-Reply-To: <438f5a310909161446q5aa580eew9ba7bd6d211eaf8e@mail.gmail.com>
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	<438f5a310909161446q5aa580eew9ba7bd6d211eaf8e@mail.gmail.com>
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We don't want all the extraneous plugins but I suppose they can just  
be disabled.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integer.com> wrote:

> Why re-package?  UTC comes as an mpkg file already.  I simply add  
> the mpkg to Casper Admin and push that.  I haven't had a problem yet.
>
> Steve Wood
> Director of IT
> swood at integer.com
>
> The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
> T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Paul Parker <Paul.Parker at jcrew.com>  
> wrote:
> Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type  
> Client with Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that  
> creates a folder with the User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to  
> be RWX.  I have set these permissions correctly in Composer and  
> tried several different package configurations but inevitably end up  
> with a wonky package.  Typically, we receive an error that says the  
> Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The Preference Pane is  
> either unavailable and will not open or starting the core fails.   
> The only workaround is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop  
> when the core fails.
>
> Thanks in advance -
> ______________________________________________________________________
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From swood at integer.com  Wed Sep 16 14:46:32 2009
From: swood at integer.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:46:32 -0500
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
In-Reply-To: <C6D6AED6.AD2D%Paul.Parker@JCrew.com>
References: <C6D6AED6.AD2D%Paul.Parker@JCrew.com>
Message-ID: <438f5a310909161446q5aa580eew9ba7bd6d211eaf8e@mail.gmail.com>

Why re-package?  UTC comes as an mpkg file already.  I simply add the mpkg
to Casper Admin and push that.  I haven't had a problem yet.

Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integer.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Paul Parker <Paul.Parker at jcrew.com> wrote:

>  Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type Client
> with Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that creates a folder
> with the User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to be RWX.  I have set these
> permissions correctly in Composer and tried several different package
> configurations but inevitably end up with a wonky package.  Typically, we
> receive an error that says the Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The
> Preference Pane is either unavailable and will not open or starting the core
> fails.  The only workaround is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop
> when the core fails.
>
> Thanks in advance -
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
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From swood at integer.com  Wed Sep 16 15:01:47 2009
From: swood at integer.com (Steve Wood)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:01:47 -0500
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
In-Reply-To: <3C71D438-9D0C-4CE7-BA0F-32FDD1B16FED@jcrew.com>
References: <C6D6AED6.AD2D%Paul.Parker@JCrew.com>
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If you just want to get rid of the plug ins, I'm assuming you mean the PS,
Ill, and ID ones, write a shell script that removes them, then tack that
into the install process.  I'm assuming you use Casper along with Composer,
yes?  Add the mpkg with a priority of 10 and the script with a priority of
11.  Then install both items at once.  The script will take care of removing
the plug-ins.

Steve Wood
Director of IT
swood at integer.com

The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Paul Parker <Paul.Parker at jcrew.com> wrote:

> We don't want all the extraneous plugins but I suppose they can just be
> disabled.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "Steve Wood" <swood at integer.com> wrote:
>
> Why re-package?  UTC comes as an mpkg file already.  I simply add the mpkg
> to Casper Admin and push that.  I haven't had a problem yet.
>
> Steve Wood
> Director of IT
> <swood at integer.com>swood at integer.com
>
> The Integer Group | 1999 Bryan St. | Ste. 1700 | Dallas, TX 75201
> T 214.758.6813 | F 214.758.6901 | C 940.312.2475
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Paul Parker < <Paul.Parker at jcrew.com>
> Paul.Parker at jcrew.com> wrote:
>
>>  Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type Client
>> with Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that creates a folder
>> with the User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to be RWX.  I have set these
>> permissions correctly in Composer and tried several different package
>> configurations but inevitably end up with a wonky package.  Typically, we
>> receive an error that says the Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The
>> Preference Pane is either unavailable and will not open or starting the core
>> fails.  The only workaround is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop
>> when the core fails.
>>
>> Thanks in advance -
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>
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From todd.ness at hp.com  Thu Sep 17 09:36:25 2009
From: todd.ness at hp.com (NESS, TODD)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:36:25 +0000
Subject: [Composer] Extensis Universal Type Client
In-Reply-To: <C6D7DC62.CE24%Kurt.Tappe@chase.com>
References: <C6D7DC62.CE24%Kurt.Tappe@chase.com>
Message-ID: <F5A43918-1A1A-4842-918A-A9516709C4B0@hp.com>

i personally just used a launchdaemon to run the installer from Extensis, added in my default preferences so the user didnt have to know server or port and it works like a charm, none of it was done with composer though.

On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Tappe, Kurt (Card Services) wrote:

Could you write a script that gets executed as part of the Composer installer that performs this directory creation?  Something like:

for i in `ls /Users`
   do
   mkdir /Library/Extensis/$i
   chmod 777 /Library/Extensis/$i
done

The beauty of this method is it will enable UTC for all users on a system, not just the current one.

I?m not too familiar with how to add a script like this to a package using Composer.  PackageMaker.app has preinstall and postinstall actions.....can you edit a Composer package using PackageMaker?

-Kurt

On 9/16/09 3:03 PM, "Paul Parker" <Paul.Parker at JCrew.com<mailto:Paul.Parker at JCrew.com>> wrote:

Has anyone had success in creating a package for Universal Type Client with Composer?  Apparently, UTC requires an install that creates a folder with the User ID in /Library/Extensis that has to be RWX.  I have set these permissions correctly in Composer and tried several different package configurations but inevitably end up with a wonky package.  Typically, we receive an error that says the Utcore cannot be (or has not) started.  The Preference Pane is either unavailable and will not open or starting the core fails.  The only workaround is to install the .mpkg through Remote Desktop when the core fails.

Thanks in advance -
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