From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Sep 29 06:41:32 2009
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:32 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
Message-ID: <4AC1C83C.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it? 

Thanks 

Tom 
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Sep 29 06:46:40 2009
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:46:40 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <4AC1C83C.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C6E779F0.D362%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:



 Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?



 Thanks



 Tom

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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Sep 29 07:55:02 2009
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:55:02 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <C6E779F0.D362%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <4AC1C83C.7141.0039.0@kckps.org> <C6E779F0.D362%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <4AC1D976.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Well then, 

I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth. 

Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be. 

I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name. 

http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions 

I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong. 

Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names. 

Thanks 

Tom


___________________________
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TIS Department
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tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
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>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>

Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


  

  

Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it? 

   

       

  

Thanks 

   

       

  

Tom 


 
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From ERNSTCS at uwec.edu  Tue Sep 29 08:53:35 2009
From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <4AC1D976.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <C6E797AF.D3A5%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X) number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X) in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:



 Well then,



 I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.



 Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be.



 I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name.



 http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions <http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>



 I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong.



 Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names.



 Thanks



 Tom


___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>




 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:














 Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?













 Thanks













 Tom






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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Sep 29 09:29:52 2009
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:29:52 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <C6E797AF.D3A5%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <4AC1D976.7141.0039.0@kckps.org> <C6E797AF.D3A5%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <4AC1EFB0.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in
the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine
in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did
not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something
I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was,
then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper
name. 

I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an
email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second
script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line
of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer
name. 



>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>

You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for
one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build
something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it
fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop
anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the
somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X)
number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X)
in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD
binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So
if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name
NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the
more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or
have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


  

  

Well then, 

   

       

  

I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their
computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and
anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support
themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up
just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a
bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth. 

   

       

  

Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the
name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just
this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each
machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if
the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets
changed to what it should be. 

   

       

  

I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the
only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the
same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain
the name. 

   

       

  

http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions


<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>


   

       

  

I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some
things I did wrong. 

   

       

  

Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start
up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs
locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will
still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are
based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper
names. 

   

       

  

Thanks 

   

       

  

Tom



___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

      
 
 


 

   

         
 
 



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From HenkelB at westerntc.edu  Tue Sep 29 11:49:42 2009
From: HenkelB at westerntc.edu (Henkel, Bill)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:49:42 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <4AC1EFB0.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
References: <4AC1D976.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<C6E797AF.D3A5%ernstcs@uwec.edu> <4AC1EFB0.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
Message-ID: <42E2D64DA3F8E54097059032799384A6050AED670A@venus.westerntc.edu>

Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced options there is a check box for ?Reset Computer Names?.

You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain computers with names that don?t match your standard naming conventions and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will then get the propername on next system startup.

Bill Henkel
Computer Technician
Telephone Support Specialist
henkelb at westerntc.edu<mailto:henkelb at westerntc.edu>
608-789-6254
fax: 608-785-9287

From: resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Larkin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list


Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was, then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper name.


I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer name.



>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>

You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X) number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X) in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:





Well then,







I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.







Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be.







I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name.







http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions

<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>







I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong.







Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names.







Thanks







Tom


___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>




 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:














 Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?













 Thanks













 Tom






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From tlarki at kckps.org  Tue Sep 29 12:25:02 2009
From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:25:02 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <42E2D64DA3F8E54097059032799384A6050AED670A@venus.westerntc.edu>
References: <4AC1D976.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<C6E797AF.D3A5%ernstcs@uwec.edu> <4AC1EFB0.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>
	<42E2D64DA3F8E54097059032799384A6050AED670A@venus.westerntc.edu>
Message-ID: <4AC218BE.7141.0039.0@kckps.org>

Yes, but if the user changes the name in the OS, then next inventory
update the JSS gets updated with the wrong name.  That is the debacle.


___________________________
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>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu> 09/29/09 1:49 PM >>>


Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it
set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the
computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced
options there is a check box for ?Reset Computer Names?. 


  


You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain
computers with names that don?t match your standard naming conventions
and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will
then get the propername on next system startup. 


  


Bill Henkel 


Computer Technician 


Telephone Support Specialist 



henkelb at westerntc.edu 



608-789-6254 


fax: 608-785-9287 


  


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resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
[mailto:resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
Larkin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list 

  

Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in
the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine
in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did
not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something
I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was,
then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper
name. 


  

I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an
email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second
script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line
of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer
name. 


  


>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>> 


You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for
one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build
something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it
fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop
anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the
somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X)
number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X)
in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD
binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So
if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name
NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the
more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or
have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote: 



  

   


Well then, 


   

       

   


I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their
computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and
anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support
themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up
just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a
bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth. 


   

       

   


Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the
name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts thmachine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if
the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets
changed to what it should be. 


   

       

   


I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the
only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the
same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain
the name. 


   

       

   


http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions




<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>



   

       

  



I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some
things I did wrong. 


   

       

   


Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start
up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs
locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will
still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are
based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper
names. 


   

       

   


Thanks 


   

       

   


Tom 




___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
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>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>
    
 
 

 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:

      
 
  




 

   

         
 
  




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From: ERNSTCS at uwec.edu (Ernst, Craig S.)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:26:11 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
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Message-ID: <C6E7C983.D458%ernstcs@uwec.edu>

INDEED!


On 9/29/09 2:25 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:



Yes, but if the user changes the name in the OS, then next inventory update the JSS gets updated with the wrong name.  That is the debacle.


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KCKPS USD500
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office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu> 09/29/09 1:49 PM >>>







Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced options there is a check box for ?Reset Computer Names?.











You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain computers with names that don?t match your standard naming conventions and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will then get the propername on next system startup.











Bill Henkel





Computer Technician





Telephone Support Specialist







henkelb at westerntc.edu









608-789-6254





fax: 608-785-9287














From:




resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Larkin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list










Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was, then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper name.











I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer name.











 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>





You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X) number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X) in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


















Well then,



















I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.



















Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be.



















I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name.



















http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions












<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>
























I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong.



















Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names.



















Thanks



















Tom









 ___________________________
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TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
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>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>




 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:





























  Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?



























  Thanks



























  Tom













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From: HenkelB at westerntc.edu (Henkel, Bill)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:45:52 -0500
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
In-Reply-To: <C6E7C983.D458%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
References: <4AC218BE.7141.0039.0@kckps.org> <C6E7C983.D458%ernstcs@uwec.edu>
Message-ID: <42E2D64DA3F8E54097059032799384A6050AED6880@venus.westerntc.edu>

I wonder what would happen if you had your policy that ran the recon also reset the computer name. would the computer name be set before or after the recon?

Bill Henkel
Computer Technician
Telephone Support Specialist
henkelb at westerntc.edu<mailto:henkelb at westerntc.edu>
608-789-6254
fax: 608-785-9287

From: Ernst, Craig S. [mailto:ERNSTCS at uwec.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:26 PM
To: Thomas Larkin; resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Henkel, Bill
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list

INDEED!


On 9/29/09 2:25 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


Yes, but if the user changes the name in the OS, then next inventory update the JSS gets updated with the wrong name.  That is the debacle.


___________________________
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KCKPS USD500
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>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu> 09/29/09 1:49 PM >>>







Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced options there is a check box for "Reset Computer Names".











You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain computers with names that don't match your standard naming conventions and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will then get the propername on next system startup.











Bill Henkel





Computer Technician





Telephone Support Specialist







henkelb at westerntc.edu









608-789-6254





fax: 608-785-9287














From:




resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com [mailto:resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Larkin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list










Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was, then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper name.











I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer name.











 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>





You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn't fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn't stop anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn't fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X) number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X) in it, and now that the JSS doesn't have separate Computer_ID for AD binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So if that machine was reimaged...cool now it's bound with the new name NAME (X), at least that's my logic right now, and if
that's not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:


















Well then,



















I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.



















Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be.



















I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name.



















http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions












<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>
























I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong.



















Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names.



















Thanks



















Tom









 ___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>




 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:





























  Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?



























  Thanks



























  Tom













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From: nick at jamfsoftware.com (Nick Amundsen)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:47:09 -0700
Subject: [Resourcekit] question about this list
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Tom,

Just wanted to drop a line here that I like your idea of writing out the known good computer name to a file and using a script to reset it.

Just to let you know, there is a checkbox in Policies that might come in handy here - the "Make Available Offline" checkbox in the General tab of a policy.

This is a quick and easy way to ensure that the scripts will run every startup - even when the clients cannot talk to your JSS.  It also provides an easy upgrade path for future changes to the script in allowing the JSS and Casper to take care of the task of getting the script copied to the clients and ensuring that it will run at startup.

I hope this is helpful.

Nick Amundsen
JAMF Software
Resource Kit Team

On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Thomas Larkin wrote:

Yes, but if the user changes the name in the OS, then next inventory update the JSS gets updated with the wrong name.  That is the debacle.


___________________________
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KCKPS USD500
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office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu<mailto:HenkelB at westerntc.edu>> 09/29/09 1:49 PM >>>

Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced options there is a check box for ?Reset Computer Names?.



You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain computers with names that don?t match your standard naming conventions and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will then get the propername on next system startup.



Bill Henkel

Computer Technician

Telephone Support Specialist


henkelb at westerntc.edu<mailto:henkelb at westerntc.edu>

608-789-6254

fax: 608-785-9287



From:
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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com<mailto:resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com>; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list


Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was, then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper name.


I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer name.



>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu<mailto:ERNSTCS at uwec.edu>> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>

You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fix this issue when a recon cycle fires off for one reason or another, correct? This is why JAMF needs to build something in.

I know that I could script this into a scheduled recon cycle, have it fix the name first, then run the recon command, but that doesn?t stop anyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X) number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X) in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:





Well then,







I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.







Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets changed to what it should be.







I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain the name.







http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions

<http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions>







I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some things I did wrong.







Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper names.







Thanks







Tom



___________________________
Thomas Larkin
TIS Department
KCKPS USD500
tlarki at kckps.org
blackberry:  913-449-7589
office:  913-627-0351





>>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 8:46 AM >>>




 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 8:41 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:
















 Is this list to discuss the resource kit, or can we submit stuff to be added to it?















 Thanks















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From: tlarki at kckps.org (Thomas Larkin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:55:28 -0500
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Yes, I could easily add a recon after the script is ran (or a policy
that runs the script) to ensure that when the name is reset back to what
it is suppose to be the JSS always has the proper name in it. 

That would be rather simple actually.


___________________________
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KCKPS USD500
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>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu> 09/29/09 2:45 PM >>>


I wonder what would happen if you had your policy that ran the recon
also reset the computer name. would the computer name be set before or
after the recon? 


  


Bill Henkel 


Computer Technician 


Telephone Support Specialist 



henkelb at westerntc.edu 



608-789-6254 


fax: 608-785-9287 


  


From: 

Ernst, Craig S. [mailto:ERNSTCS at uwec.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:26 PM
To: Thomas Larkin; resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Henkel, Bill
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list 

  

INDEED!


On 9/29/09 2:25 PM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote: 



  


Yes, but if the user changes the name in the OS, then next inventory
update the JSS gets updated with the wrong name.  That is the debacle.



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KCKPS USD500
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>>> "Henkel, Bill" <HenkelB at westerntc.edu> 09/29/09 1:49 PM >>>
    


 

           




Casper has the built in abilty to rename the computers back to what it
set in the JSS database. I have a policy that runs on startup to set the
computer name to what is stored in the JSS database. In the advanced
options there is a check box for ?Reset Computer Names?.          




           




            




           




You could probably have a smart group set so that it would only contain
computers with names that don?t match your standard naming conventions
and just update those computer names in the JSS database so they will
then get the propername on next system startup.          




           




            




           




Bill Henkel          




           




Computer Technician          




           




Telephone Support Specialist          




           


             




henkelb at westerntc.edu            






  




           




608-789-6254          




           




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resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com
[mailto:resourcekit-bounces at list.jamfsoftware.com] On Behalf Of 

Thomas Larkin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:30 AM
To: resourcekit at list.jamfsoftware.com; Craig S. Ernst
Subject: Re: [Resourcekit] question about this list            




 
 


        


         




Yeah that is why I am wondering if I can store something like this in
the framework.  If you set the name correctly when you image a machine
in the JSS then the first script will store that name in a file.  I did
not incorporate any recon commands into the script but that is something
I could do, every time it is ran or the name is set back to what it was,
then I could also have it recon it and update the JSS back to the proper
name.        






  




        


         




I also thought about adding a custom policy to this that sends out an
email if the script runs successfully.  I would have to alter the second
script with another exit for that to happen, but that is just one line
of code.  That way you can get emailed when a user changes the computer
name.        






  




        





 
 >>> "Ernst, Craig S." <ERNSTCS at uwec.edu> 09/29/09 10:53 AM >>>      



           
 


You are indeed not the only one who has requested this.

However, this doesn?t fanyone from just doing a straight up recon when the name isn?t fixed.

I do plan to look at your scripts though and see if it helps with the
somewhat annoying thing when systems rename themselves with the (X)
number after it. Well, great so now the JSS has a system with NAME (X)
in it, and now that the JSS doesn?t have separate Computer_ID for AD
binding it will bind to AD with what the current name is in the JSS. So
if that machine was reimaged...cool now it?s bound with the new name
NAME (X), at least that?s my logic right now, and if
that?s not right JAMF can kindly let me know. =) If it is right, all the
more reason to have machine name enforcement right in the JSS and/or
have computer_id binding options back in the system.

Thanks for the post, Tom.

Craig E

On 9/29/09 9:55 AM, "Thomas Larkin" <tlarki at kckps.org> wrote:          


 
  





             
 


  

              


 
 

             




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I have a bunch of faculty members that have admin rights to their
computers, for installing their own software, their own printers, and
anything they buy on their budget outside of IT's budget they support
themselves.  Some of them like to rename their computers so I ended up
just disabling the sharing pref pane in System Preferences.  That was a
bummer to some of them as they like to use blue tooth.             




 

             
 


   

       

              


 
 

             




Since there is not a way, at least I can tell, to have Casper force the
name that is in the JSS I came up with a couple of scripts that do just
this.  This way I can have a casper policy run once a day on each
machine that checks the name, and if the name is good it exits, but if
the name has been changed (typically set after imaging) then it gets
changed to what it should be.             




 

             
 


   

       

              


 
 

             




I know I am not the only one that has feature requested this and not the
only one that has had issues with name changes.  So, this is kind of the
same method as dummy packages, but instead I use receipts to maintain
the name.             




 

             
 


   

       

              


 
 

             




http://tlarkin.com/tech/2-shell-scripts-maintain-standard-naming-conventions
           








  




 

             
 


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I cleaned up the scripts a bit since I first made them to fix some
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Is there a way to have the JAMF framework run simple scripts at start
up?  That is my other method of perhaps deploying this, so it all runs
locally so if off the network or if the JSS is unreachable, it will
still enforce the proper computer name.  All of our smart groups are
based on naming conventions, so it is important to us to have proper
names.             




 

             
 


   

       

              


 
 

             




Thanks             




 

             
 


   

       

              


 
 

             




Tom            




 

             
 



 
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KCKPS USD500
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 Both...at least make recommendations for stuff to be added.

Craig E

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